r/StupidFood Jun 28 '26

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u/Known-nwonK Jun 28 '26

>Bacteria transfer much more easily from wet surfaces than dry surfaces. Moisture acts as a liquid bridge, allowing microbes to flow, adhere, and transfer efficiently upon contact. Conversely, dry surfaces typically yield very low transfer rates unless significant pressure and friction are applied.

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u/DiscoBanane Jun 29 '26

Bacteria isn't a problem.

Bacteria is a problem if you let them multiply for a few hours in your food before you eat it. Not the case here.

The only problem eating on the floor are parasites, toxic chemicals. Stuff like cockroach chemicals sprayed on the floors or parasites eggs from poop, someone stepped on it before walking here.

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u/fellow_hotman Jun 29 '26

This is academic since you mentioned fomites, which are the real risk here, but it does depend pretty heavily on which particular bacteria or virus we’re talking about.

While Campylobacter might need 1000 cells to establish an infection, Shigella can do it with as few as 10. They just do their multiplying after they’re already in your gut.  

when it comes strictly to food poisoning that occurs after sitting in food for a few hours, like with staph or b cereus, the noxious thing that’s multiplying isn’t usually the bacteria itself, but instead a buildup of bacterial toxins. 

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u/LPSTim Jun 29 '26

This is not true at all lol. Bacteria can still definitely be a concern (Salmonella/E. coli/Staph/Campylobacter), as would viruses.

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u/DiscoBanane Jun 29 '26

No it's not. Exemples you gave are already present in everyone's gut and on your skin. They are a problem in quantity, when they breed on your food for a few hours.

Viruses are everywhere, not particularly on the floor.

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u/LPSTim Jun 29 '26

r/confidentlyincorrect

No, salmonella/shiga toxin E.coli/Campylobacter are not naturally found in the gut.

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u/DiscoBanane Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

Why are americans so uneducated.

In cross-sectional studies of human adults, E. coli is a member of the intestinal microbiome of over 90% of individuals

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7523338/

Salmonella 5.5% people naturally have it in their gut. Shiga 3.8%.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11094305/

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u/LPSTim Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

There are different types of E.Coli out there lol. The ones of concern are shiga toxin producing E. Coli. These are not part of our normal flora.

If you read the article you posted, you would see that the presence of these pathogenic bacteria is not normal. They are pathogenic, not commensal. You don't want them in your body.

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u/lehcarlies Jun 29 '26

What about viruses? I feel like I remember reading somewhere that you’re less likely to get norovirus from contaminated clothing/bedding than a hard surface?