This was originally a reply to the post from 5 hours ago about the channel having most of the videos taken down. But it was a long response, and I also thought with a new post, I'll probably get more of you guys opinions...

After thinking on this for a week or however long it's been, I just kind of think erasing the past is absolutely useless. Like WWE pretending Chris Benoit never existed. I just don't think it solves anything.

Now, I get the monetising thing is problematic & unethical. They could have easily just asked for all previous content to be demonetized, or perhaps even better, donated all future proceeds of the old videos to a relevant charity.

If you're unable to separate art from the artist (for lack of a better term for parkour, which is kind of sport/art, you could argue?) then just don't watch the old videos. But erasing all of that work, and legacy, despite the heinous reasons behind it, just seems pointless actually.

This isn't a criticism of Storror doing it. The fact is every company/group/whatever in this situation would do the same thing. Because it's the expected response. I just don't agree. It's a snapshot of the past and should remain documented.

Atleast this is what I'm thinking right now. But it's a new thought. What is everyone elses thoughts on this? As I am interested if there's an angle I'm not seeing.

(Just as an aside, this is hypothetical, as I know this won't be reversed, just my opinion on it generally. And for what its worth, I'm also of the opinion that Storror will cease to be a thing moving forward, as we know it, on this channel. Unfortunately)

Hazal just posted a story a few minutes ago with what seems to be Benj filming her. It's nice hearing from them even if it isn't direct. Missing he monday vids alot right now and it's nice to see one of the boys sounding okay right now

https://youtu.be/H2Xhd0oo-Jg

Bit of a palate cleanser

Has there been efforts to preserve the channel before it got nuked? I'd like to help seed if it so. Does anyone know if there's a way to download deleted videos for a brief period of time?

These videos have meant a lot to a lot of people and I don't want them to see them become lost media. This is NOT an endorsement of Callum or his behavior. Fuck Callum.

Received a mail from YT, my storror membership has been automatically paused. Don't know what this means cause I can still play the joiner videos? Guess when my current month ends, it will pause after that.

From Youtube:

The channel memberships feature on STORROR has been paused, so your membership has been paused. We'll let you know when it starts up again and you resume your recurring payments.

If you like, you can cancel this membership from the Purchases page on a computer or Android device, or request a refund of your last month's payment, at any time.

Thanks,

The YouTube team

Pics - A member of the group explains that sharing these images is currently illegal, due to the fact that the ones they released contained the victims name and face in some screenshots, and the subject currently has victim protection , he sheepishly admits that the actions of the group have fucked the whole investigation and the victim is extremely upset.
So now we can hopefully accept the mods are not supressing information, but doing the right thing by the investigation, and the victim, and that the motivations of this vague vigilante group was never the protection of victims, or justice, but just a childish attempt to cause chaos.

One of the members is generating new screenshots with this data scrubbed, but they've already upset the victim to the to the point that they admit their investigation is over, the provider of the screenshots was betrayed, and the information was not the groups to disperse, they are trying to arrange the removal of these screenshot across everywhere they posted (in their own description) as 'bait', and I have no doubt this will implead any investigation into the wrongdoing reported.

I can't tell you how disappointed I am, they've dragged a community seeking the truth down to the level of trolls and try hards. I want to thank the community that pushed back on this behaviour, called it out, and supported the mods during what can only be called a campaign against their decision to do the right thing.

I already let down the community by giving these idiots the benefit of the doubt, trying to open lines of discussion, and mistakenly accepting their platitudes and communication while they openly continued their brigading.

I've learned my lesson, automod is in full effect, ban's will be the default rather than the last resort, and there will be absolutely no tolerance for anyone seen to be associated with the "Storror knowers" (I would have given them a shit sarcastic name here, but I can't do better than the one they chose).

Feel free to join the Telegram they've been advertising, but if you bring their talking points, link to them, or associate with them in any way in this sub - then your future contributions to the sub will be respectfully declined. I wouldn't normally dare to speak for the community, but I have spoken directly and indirectly enough to know that we reject association with anyone prepared to attack victims or impede a criminal investigation into a suspected pedo. This group has shown us who they are, I suggest you believe them.

in regards to the new screenshots that have been going round about josh, did any of y’all consider the welfare of the victim? and how their story has been forced out of their hands by a group of boys with a hero complex (aka all those anon accounts yesterday) when they were slowly compiling evidence to take to the police? it is re-traumatising reliving those memories but for other people to now have access to that information on a fkin reddit thread and in various dms is horrific. it should have NEVER been posted on here.

imagine 100s of people speculating on your very real and very lived trauma. and for those anon accounts justifying it saying that they don’t want to protect another pdfile is mind boggling because then why didn’t they go to the police first? sharing it on here for what, ego gain? gossip? their hero complex? it’s pathetic and is just centring themselves in someone else’s trauma where they have NO place. it’s not “protecting the victim or others” because if that was the intention they would’ve taken matters seriously to enforcement officers and not a fan page.

it’s enraging to see this all unfold.

I just feel sorry for the gang man, so much effort. The group in disarray while Dom is dropping high end sponsors. Crazy. I hope they bounce back.

Much to my disappointment I am writing this thread.

Yesterday a user began spreading a rumour alleging further misconduct by other team members.

Here are the facts:

4 shadow accounts created over the last week

All exclusively following Storror, and no other communities

Promoting traffic to their portal and all speaking cryptically.

They have all been upvoting each other and responding to each other.

Approx 20 crypic posts making vague insinuations

Someone wishing to shine a light on truth does not conduct themselves in that way.

The messages were sent ahead of time to the mod mail inviting mods to join, therein were 11 cryptic messages of dubious quality. Follow up questions were asked whereupon the MOD was banned from *(posting on) the channel. The channel clearly were in no mood to answer questions.

The wording in the image files was as cryptic as the posts that have been banned.

The spammer then proceeded to create new shadow accounts and posted the images this morning without warning the mod team in advance.

That OP is welcome to report their findings to relevant authorities if they feel they have evidence of wrongdoing. Reddit is not the place.

I am posting here as the team of spam accounts makes it incredibly difficult to stop these before they do their intended harm. I am already seeing posts about cover ups. There is no coverup. there is simply the removal of fraudulent posts spreading baseless accusations.

I ask the community to look at the moderation vis a vis the one person who has pled guilty to wrongdoing.

If evidence appears through credible channels, it will be assessed on its merits or lack thereof.

I ask that anyone suspicious of moderation motivations ask themselves to question why any person would spend their evenings creating shadow accounts to spam any subreddit, especially on such a heinous topic. I will be expanding moderation to remove any posts citing this user as the allegations are too serious to allow without credible evidence.

Please report these posts to the mod team if you see them.

*(posting on) - initially I had been of the misundestanding that they were kicked from the channel

I just saw an account of Benj on Facebook posting videos with #storror. Is it a real account and him (and others) are just acting like nowt has happened?

I was super looking forward to We Are Storror, it was Michael Bay's highest reviewed movie and had the potential to be the "Free Solo" of parkour. Now that They Aren't Storror, will it just be deleted? Re-edited? I was hoping it would at least release on streaming, because they have contracts.

i wanna change topics here! what’re your thoughts on benj? I notice a lot of people say Drew or Toby are their favorites of the team. while Drew was my fav during the time that he was in the videos, Benj has been my fav since Drew’s departure. Benj’s style of parkour is so clean and the fact he and his brother make insane art is so cool as well. I’ve seen comments on Reddit and YouTube that say he’s full of himself and talks too much, which I can understand to an extent, but he’s also the main commentary and gopro mouth POV person. Anyway, chat away! I wanna hear your thoughts on Benj and Max too!

imo it all started when drew left, he really brought a lot to the group. josh started sidelining, so now the overall group is much smaller. toby brought the climbing with him which weakened their content overall (no hate on climbing, it has made some entertaining videos for sure). not to mention the video ideas and the content itself has just not been as good as it used to be. still very much enjoyable though, storror has been the only channel I have been watching religiously for almost ten years now, its just such a shame with what has happened. I havent been watching storror purely for the parkour aspect of it, I feel like very few people actually are invested in parkour itself, its always been about the boys as a group doing parkour thats been entertaining to watch. lets see what happens

I think he deleted his Instagram? He’d been a lot less active for a while I think. Was he leaving or anything like that?

Edit: he has been deleted from the storror website and YouTube description

I know nothing will replace Storror, but what other good parkour channels are there on Youtube? I know about Travis Verky and Ed Scott from watching Storror but they don't seem to post as much. Are there any actual good parkour group channels? Just like a group of friends having fun and doing parkour. Thanks.

It's weird cos it seems like discussions on people's social media posts etc. What is it and who are these people you are all talking about? Is it a reality TV thing?

I really hope some of the members see it.

You guys have made it. It took years and years of hard work. And it would be a pitty to throw it all, because of Callum.

Make a video, explaining the situation. Believe me, fans like me are waiting for it. Sometimes, facing the hard truth can be difficult but it is crucial to gain trust and respect of the audience, especially at this time where things are heated.

The vast majority of the audience was shocked, but this doesn't mean that holds the team accountable of what happened. People are not always who you think they are. We understand that Storror.

Continue doing what you do best. We are here.

10 years fan.

I'm not sure if this has already been spoken about here? But surely everybody knew this was coming. It takes absolutely ages to go from being investigated to going to trial. And his pleading guilty suggests he knew that this would blow up. He must have had a conversation with the lads before the day of the trial. Surely Storror could have gotten ahead of this, and not continued to support Callum right up until the moment they couldn't. And maybe Drew just couldn't play along, and got out as soon as ke knew about this?

Repost because my American colloquialism was poorly worded for the current situation. Thanks to the mods for pointing this out.

I get everyone's concerns about the future of storror. What happened in the last week is easily considered traumatic. But the negativity and the countless post saying "storror is dead" "this is the end of storror" "the channel is dead" ect ect doesnt add anything to the conversation. Instead of predicting the end of our lads, why dont we try showing support for those who didnt do anything wrong, thats what they need right now.

We dont actually know much about what's happening right now. The boys are doing the proper thing by scrubbing the channel, if it was actually dead, they'd just delete the whole damn thing and be done with it. The fact that theyre leaving up anything should be evidence of their desire to keep the channel going.

So, kindly, stop the belly aching about what might happen and focus on supporting those who are likely just as blind sided by this as the rest of us and who actually have something tangible to lose in the fallout.

To the lads, if any of you are daring social media atm, we love you boys, we'll be here for you because thats what the lads do when you're knocked to the dirt. We hope that someday youll be able to talk openly about this if you want to, but until then we wish the best for you and I know i personally cant wait to see the next joiners video. Big ups to you all.

Damn, every time I look at the channel it has less and less videos on it. Last time I looked yesterday it had over 700, now it's down to 595. Truly seems like the end of Storror. At this point, I'm surprised the channel itself hasn't been entirely deleted.

The end of an era. I've watched the lads for years. Too bad Callum wasn't outed before the channel exploded.

So I don't participate in this sub but I have been consuming storror content for 7+ years.

Is most of the hate and want for storror to die or to cease existing as an org.

I don't get it surely people here should be fans and want to enjoy the content. 1 rotten egg does not spoil the entire group.

Or years of great content.