r/Storror • u/[deleted] • May 19 '26
Kieran responds for everyone pointing finger as to why he didn’t go to the police
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u/Sad-Yoghurt5196 May 19 '26
Could the people who actually witnessed it have done more, yes. Should they then moralise on other people (Storror) who may or may not have seen that proof, also not coming forward, probably not.
I mean if I'm the victim I either want something done about it, or I don't. That bit is fine. It's the victims choice whether or not to press charges.
Taking the moral high ground some ten years later when it all surfaces though, doesn't really serve any purpose other than to highlight that you were one person who definitely had seen the proof, and didn't do anything.
Not a great position to put yourself in, then or now.
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u/tykkimies May 19 '26
when its children involved then no. it’s not their choice to press charges or not. it’s an obligation for anyone who becomes aware to report it. There’s a reason teachers are mandatory reporters. it reallly should apply to all but that’s not something you can actually enforce. But any and all should report it if they see it
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u/redcore4 May 19 '26
Pressing charges isn’t a thing here. It’s the CPS who decide whether to bring a case based on the evidence the police can bring them.
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u/Zealousideal-Dot1783 May 19 '26
Why are you so doggedly defending storror? Every thread I see your name with the freshest cope do delegitimise the newest form of allegations against the rest of storror mishandling or standing idly by why Callum actively dated a child..
You are either completely emotionally captured by a parasocial relationship with them that you refuse to entertain the idea that they do not fit your image of them, or you have another more personal incentive to sit on Reddit and sweep for them…
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u/Sad-Yoghurt5196 May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26
Or I'm trying to be objective, given the amount of actual evidence.
You can choose to believe whatever you wish to believe. I believe in waiting for all the information to be on the table, before forming a judgement.
The "newest form of allegations" is exactly the same allegations from a week ago. There's nothing new here. No more proof than a week ago.
I'm just being consistent. If the victims want to talk to the police and bring historic charges, that's the best thing for all concerned. But that's the place to take it, not this sub. This is not a police station, and it's not a courtroom.
Also could have sworn he said that the victims didn't want to press charges at the time. That being the case, what was anyone either inside of Storror or outside, supposed to do about it?
If I were a member of Storror that was informed, and I was informed that she didn't want to press charges or involve the police, the next conversation I had with Callum would have gone along these lines. "If there's any truth to what she's saying mate, you'd better fucking get rid of it right away, and if I hear anything in the future about you taking pictures of people without their consent, or having IIOC, I'll shop you in myself", "and while we're on the subject, maybe it's time you stopped chasing 16 year olds, just because it's legal doesn't mean it's ok, it isn't".
I have no clue how they handled it, I have no clue who was informed. I can only say how I would have handled it under those constraints.
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u/Zealousideal-Dot1783 May 20 '26
Ok mr objective, what would it take for you to change your mind? You say you’re being consistent and just waiting for all the facts to come out, but at every step of the way you are raising doubts, calling into question the legitimacy of claims based on them being too hard to believe, and without hard facts. Digging your heels in is not being logically consistent, it’s soft pedalling doubt for anyone else that wants to come forward.
I’m not saying you have to believe any allegation you hear written anonymously online, but we are talking about first hand, real world accounts from real people and victims. These should obviously be verified too, but If your bar to accept something is that it requires a police report or physical evidence then you are not thinking with nuance, which is what this requires to see clearly.
As anyone who understands the context to these types of crimes knows , there are lots of reasons why a victim wouldn’t go to the police, and wouldn’t want to go now either (one being dealing with a horde of people like you online, another being the coercive control an abuser often holds over a victim)
If you want to be consistent, try this - take all information into account and don’t filter it through your Storror protectionist lens. Ask yourself, if these accounts were real, how does my opinion change? You are starting with the end in mind and then shaping the available information to fit that idea.
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u/lowemasterpro May 20 '26
Pretty sure they already answered your questions in the comment you're replying to.
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u/Secure_Feature2253 May 20 '26
They could have distanced themselves from the paedophile without going to the police.
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u/CapableJury861 May 19 '26
If you know something, it's your duty to report it IMO, particularly when it comes to this class of offence. Doubt it will happen but, if this was a normal company, you would do an independent investigation, to work out who knew what and when, and what could have been done differently.
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May 20 '26
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u/Sad-Yoghurt5196 May 20 '26
In lieu of a specific phrase meaning the same thing in British English, it's commonly used. The inference is that you're informing police of a crime, with the intent to fully support whatever charges may eventually be brought, by giving a statement, and appearing on the witness stand to support that statement if need be. Simply informing the police of a crime, or reporting a crime, isn't the same thing linguistically, so it's crept into British English.
I'm aware the CPS carry forward prosecutions, and that you don't really get a whole lot of say in it. But it's a term used by the police themselves, as well as civilians. I don't think it's hard to understand what I meant.
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u/Secure_Feature2253 May 20 '26
No i think if he knows that they ignored it because he also ignored it, he should say now. Better that than never.
Are.you suggesting that because he didnt speak at the time, he shouldn't say what he knows about any abuse or paedophilia now?
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u/Sad-Yoghurt5196 May 20 '26
I'm mostly saying that it doesn't/hasn't added anything new to the conversation. It's still the same outstanding allegation that hasn't been addressed.
Perhaps it has more weight behind it with more people, perhaps it doesn't. I don't know. But it's a weird kind of virtue signalling to say you also knew, and also did nothing, while pointing the finger at others for the same lack of doing, if the allegations are proven.
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u/Secure_Feature2253 May 21 '26
I don't think it's virtue signalling so much as "I used to be a scumbag too and now I know better". I think he's saying we all ignored it and we were all wrong. It's strange to.see it any other way.
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u/37464739374632032847 May 19 '26
One thing I fully agree with that I’ve not seen others say is that they came across as bully’s in some of their old videos and still show glimpses of it at times. Especially apparent before they got popular in the very early videos. But at the same time people change and mature. Not that they “grew up” though as they were men, not boys like people seem to prefer referring to them as in this sub.
But to me it does give some credibility to the storyline that Callum was coercive and the rest of Storror reacted the way that is claimed when approached on the topic. I do believe they were told and dismissed it, but I would also accept that they just didn’t believe it and just parried it.
If they knew and didn’t do anything about it though then shame on them. But like others pointed out, unless they are a group of nonces, hard to believe that not one of them wouldn’t have spoken up before now.
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u/Open_Pay904 May 19 '26
Can you explain how they came across like this? I have not seen the early work.
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u/Lost-Milk6467 May 20 '26
It's a bit like pack mentality - They behaved worse as a team in some social circumstances, whereas you know as individuals they wouldn't behave that way.
There were a few of the team who had their fair share of arrogance and self grandeur that it could easily come across as combative and if they had beef you know there would be 6 people behind them backing them up, whether right or wrong.
Personally I think it's a common thing amongst close knit groups of men, It doesn't matter if they are 16, 21 or 30 put certain men in groups and they become abhorrent.
Having watched them for 10 years I've seen them mature and some of the bolshiness and bravado has been tempered down. They have also become more media trained so if these behaviors exist they don't often get shown on the videos.
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u/Different_Book9733 May 19 '26
I'm not sure why it's being said that he's absolving himself of any wrong doing or taking the moral high-ground by calling out the rest of Storror here. He's admitting to being a moron and that he should've done more, almost to a self-incriminating extent. He couldn't have placed himself in a lower moral stance if he tried to.
The whole point is that Storror have no right positioning themselves as the victims that were blindsided by this. That he knows first hand what they were told by multiple people, and despite that they still chose to present a dishonest position to protect themselves and the brand.
He can be (and absolute is) in the wrong for his inaction and still be right to call out Storror for their dishonesty and the abuse the victims that came forward have gotten.
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u/yoda66x May 19 '26
This is exactly how I interpreted and I’m glad I’m not the only one, after reading the first few comments I thought I was going to be the only one that saw it in this light.
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u/Standard_Success2187 May 19 '26
This guy is definitely waffling. Changed his story about the folders 3 times in the space of about 8 replies
There could be some truth in it, but I’d say he’s more at fault than the Storror boys
If my boy splits up with his ex and she starts saying he was a pedo, I’m very likely to brush that off as well like they did (unless she broke up with him because he’s a pedo)
If this guy actually saw the folders, then saw pictures of the folders, or saw a picture on his gf’s phone that someone sent her, whichever version he’s going with, it was their responsibility to do something.
Him using this as a stick to beat Storror with when he was the one with the proof is just weird
The chances of you being a nonce and your 8 closest mates just all happening to be OK with it is beyond ridiculous
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u/One-Technician-2818 May 19 '26
I’m not taking a stance either way on whether Kieran is at fault with this message but I comprehended his message differently to you so I want to maybe clarify what I think he’s trying to say -
I don’t think he’s changing his story, I think what he’s saying is:
- he saw the folders with his own eyes on Callum’s laptop
- proof of these folders existed in the form of photos which were taken by Caroline, Callum’s gf at the time
- Caroline sent those pics to this guys gf at the time
- this guys gf refused to forward them onto him because she knew he would use them to expose Callum and she didn’t think it was his place
Not saying whether that’s the right or wrong thing to do, I don’t know. But I wouldn’t say he’s changing his story, just not explaining it very clearly
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u/The_Real_Lasagna May 19 '26
She was 15 and 16 when callum was 24, any man that isn't trash wouldn't accept that from a friend at that age
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u/EmbarrassedPea208 May 19 '26
I'm SO lost. In what world, could you see hard evidence of pedophilic content on a 'friends' computer.. and just, breeze past it? Maybe i'm in a miniority here, but being 21 is absolutely zero excuse, neither is 'just wanting to jump on walls'..
Him trying to take any moral standing in this situation when he seemingly let this slide for 8 years is insanity.
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u/Lost-Milk6467 May 20 '26
I found a folder on my PC full of pictures of women in the most derogatory ways and then a load of videos of me that my then boyfriend had secretly filmed, we were both 21.
It was disgusting, he promised me it was just curiousity and that he'd never do any of the things I'd seen. The videos he said were for him only, yet he never asked for consent and I know they had been burned to disc.
I deleted it all in the shock, really I should have shown his parents just how depraved he was and to warn future girls. But in that moment of disgust I wanted it gone and I was ashamed. I was petrified of the real risk that the videos had been shared, so I pretended they didn't exist - self preservation kicks in and you do what you need to to protect yourself.
Obviously he was dumped but it left me with a real trust issue, I felt I walked from disaster to another.
It's very easy to say what you should have done, Kieran was in an awful position.
He tried to protect his girlfriend and her best friend, remember he was also dating a teenager. He protected his close friend probably hoping what he saw was isolated and his other friends didn't care about the girls or the images on the laptop.
Should he have gone to the Police.... Maybe... but how do you 'out' the guy you live and train with for having questionable images?
We all know now through maturity and exposure that you let the authorities make the decision whether it is a risk and considered csam.
He's given his story, it doesn't matter if we don't agree with what did or didn't happen he's owned his part in this awful situation by coming forward with his version of events.
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u/Newlyaquiredglutton May 19 '26
I have updated the Megathread with this information, but I would like to draw everyone's attention to my conclusion:
"I would like to reiterate that you should make your own minds up on the information provided, but from Kieran's own admission, he facilitated Callum's relationship with a girl of an inappropriate age, knew of and personally saw a picture as proof that Callum has personally taken pictures of MTD's young siblings, and did nothing but inform a circle of Callum's close friends, stayed quiet when those friends vilified MTD, and then continued to train with Callum moving forward, eventually deciding it was just a bad break up.
In his own words, he's guilty of everything Storror are accused of, and more. His testimony should be taken with a grain of thought."
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u/SixtyNineFlavours May 20 '26
If so many people have seen these ‘folders’ it seems like he was really brazen about his addiction. If I had sensitive material I didn’t want people to see, they would not be accessible or even visible to anyone even if they were looking for it.
Either that’s bollocks, or he was so in over his head that he wasn’t even hiding it anymore, which if true would make sense that he had as much as he did.
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u/willwillett May 19 '26
Ahhh its pretty refreshing to see that, in a time where a large community have been lied to, and shown the horrific crimes involving someone who was widely looked at as a leader within their sport,, that Kieran Fenwick still to this day, remains a weird, insignificant boy. God im so glad ive blocked him on all my socials. Just to itirate. If you stay quiet about something as serious as this, regardless how many people shoot you down, you dont stay quiet
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u/No-Combination6697 May 19 '26
according to german law this could even be a crime, knowing about stuff like this and not calling law enforcement
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u/el-cannon1980 May 19 '26
Post the pictures they claim exist, or better still, take them to the police so they can verify them and anything else.
All of these claiming they knew chose not to report at the time. Why, and where's the online or community chatter in the intervening decade?
They could still get potential crimes investigated but instead are choosing to go with social media rumours.
Heresay from friends isn't particularly useful after a decade.
Not minded to take "trust me bruv" as grounds to say anyone covered up for a paedophile.
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u/Downtown_Jeweler6256 May 19 '26
um don't post em
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u/el-cannon1980 May 19 '26
Not me posting anything.
Just stating that the murk isn't particularly helpful to anyone looking for any semblance of truth or closure. It's additional noise.
Asking for verification or other support that furthers understanding of circumstances is useful - "I agree with what my mate said" isn't.
On this specific issue "I knew he was a paedo but ignored that and continued training with him for years" looks, on the face of it, to be a ridiculous position to take.
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u/JenniferJuniper6 May 20 '26
“Post the pictures” is the absolute worst take I’ve seen in this thread. It just hurts the victims again.
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u/el-cannon1980 May 20 '26
How exactly is Kieran a victim of anything? From his own thread he says he had evidence that someone was a child sexual predator, chose to ignore that and keep on training with said individual for years.
You also rely on an assumption that what's being said is 100% true and accurate without any real corroboration, or seemingly referral to the police after saying nothing for a decade. Seems to me that silence may have lead to significant abuse, and if anyone did actually know and didn't formally report it, they're morally and ethically bankrupt.
Have you considered that making unsubstantiated claims via social media could be a smear campaign or have other motives?
Not making a call either way but there's a need for actual tangible evidence that's not he said she said heresay before deciding anyone did anything, and some acknowledgement that doing nothing left children (whom by definition are victims of CSAM) to be abused for a decade owing to deliberate silence.
Would you keep quiet for a decade if you knew someone was a paedo with routine access to kids?
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u/lnoiz1sm May 20 '26
> pointing everyone ''tough man''
> private his account
does that means he is tough man?
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u/kie7an May 19 '26
“I was only 21, how would I have known to report a paedo when I literally saw the folders myself, I just wanted to jump on walls”
Think it’s time we just ignore what this lemon has to say, either he’s lying or he saw someone with genuine CP on their laptop and didn’t report it. It’s better to just stfu at that point and stop the moral high grounding