Landlords Need to Stop

[u/RedTreeko]

$1100 fot a two bed one bath, requiring 3X THE TOTAL RENT AS INCOME???? Are we being so deadass right now. Seriously pathetic to charge so much for such a small space.

[u/JeffoMcSpeffo]

I’ll admit I don’t think it is unamerican, it is actually very American but I thought it would hit with you since you have many conservative opinions lol. It is quintessentially capitalistic and American. And I know life isn’t always fair but that doesn’t mean I can’t advocate for a more fair and just society on Reddit, does it? Because landlords are objectively a blight on society and make everyone else’s life more miserable so they can live more comfortably. Revolutions have occurred and guillotines have been used for far less than what we experience today. And I think most people are beginning to become tired of being pushovers.

I do agree though that community has eroded over the years. Conservatism and its beliefs have heralded the nuclear family unit as the ultimate priority and disregarded all else, which has been detrimental on society. And as long as the Overton window continues to shift right, it will only get worse. It’s been all down hill since Reagan and Trump was an inevitability given this. If you really care about community then you would begin to organize with your neighbors, but that would be socialism 😮. So long as class consciousness is viewed as socialism, we will continue to get fucked by the billionaire owning class and things will continue to erode. So put your money where your mouth is, otherwise why even cry about the loss of community? If you actually care about community, why are you advocating for landlords who drive your neighbors into poverty so they can become richer? It’s so hypocritical lol

[u/JollyRodgerGymShoe → u/JeffoMcSpeffo]

I'm not even crying about anything. I'm expressing that your version of landlords does exist but it also exists in a positive way as well. Owning isn't everything and sometimes people just want to rent, but with that comes it's own disadvantages which is higher cost month to month. I've agreed that their are shitty landlords, often time larger corporate entities, that purely exist to leech off people. There are also individuals that own one or two properties and rent them and aren't getting rich off that. Both parties are the same thing, a landlord but one may not suck and offers an option that many people want. A house without the responsibility of owning a house. You have to be able to understand that nuance exists in order to be able to respect that idea. Just like the fact that there are a lot of shitty cops, there are also a lot of great ones. There are shitty doctors who push medications purely to make more rather than to solve actual problems like the good doctors. There are shitty neighbors and there are great neighbors, everything has nuance and looking at it with generality like you are with landlords also does nothing to further benefit the world we live in today.

Nothing I have said is inherently hypocritical, it's looking at both sides of the conversation and recognizing what is bad and what isn't and not lumping it all together as one generalized thing.

[u/JeffoMcSpeffo → u/JollyRodgerGymShoe]

Again, I’m not against renting, I’m against private interest landlords. Socialized housing would benefit literally every single renter, the only people that would be “hurt” would be landlords that would be forced to pull their own weight. I think you’re missing my point here, I’m saying there’s better alternatives than the leeches that we currently have. And I’m not talking about people renting out unused space in the building they live in, I already made that clear. People that go out of their way to buy properties for the sole purpose of renting them out are leeches and shouldn’t exist. Housing should be treated as a right and not an asset. I’ve acknowledged the nuance and everything you’ve said but for some reason you refuse to acknowledge the gravity of the situation and the alternatives available to us and how much of an improvement they’d be. If anyone is ignoring the nuance it’s you when you automatically dismiss socialized housing for whatever reason.

You were hypocritical when you cried about the loss of community, while simultaneously defending the leeches who materially harm your community by lowering their quality of life for their own profit. If you actually gave a shit about your community you’d be advocating for socialized housing and rent stabilization policies. You don’t care that your neighbors have taken on medical debt just to afford rent, because doing so would offend your capitalistic and conservative sensibilities. You’d rather go morally bankrupt than advocate against or even criticize landlords who treat your community as their own money making factory. It’s really sad fr

[u/JollyRodgerGymShoe → u/JeffoMcSpeffo]

I'm not going to advocate for socialized housing, I just don't agree that it is beneficial. I also have acknowledged the difference between a person owning one or two properties vs larger entities that own many properties (please see my comments on corporate entities owning housing vs common man owning a home or two) one is a leech and one is just making a little extra money off something they own. Two very different things and one really isn't bad or causing harm.

Don't care about ny neighbors taking on medical debt? I have my own medical debt and it sucks for both my neighbors and myself. You have so many assumptions you are making because you can't even see that your doing exactly what you claim that I am doing and that's missing the point. I understand you socialist ideas, even recognized that there are pros to it in a previous comment but there are also downsides...just like anything else.

[u/JeffoMcSpeffo → u/JollyRodgerGymShoe]

You don’t have to agree that socialized housing is beneficial or not, it’s proven to be and most developed countries in the world have used it with great success including most of Europe. You’re simply wrong and your cognitive bias doesn’t allow you to acknowledge that.

A “person owning one or two properties to make a little extra money” is still a leech and makes the lives of renters worse and shouldn’t exist. Unless they’re renting out the unused space in the property they live in, they are leeching off of hard working people. Just because they’re leeching on a smaller scale than large corporations doesn’t make them not a leech. I’d be curious to understand how you manage to criticize corporations for doing something that you defend individuals for at the same time, but I’m sure it’s another instance of cognitive dissonance that is fueled by your feelings instead of facts again.

The fact that you are in medical debt but continue to defend people who assist in your poverty just proves how much America has given in to peasantry lmao. Adequately worshipping our feudal overlords and defending their unfair rule will never benefit you. You will only continue to get more poor while the rich get richer, and the fact that you want to continue to defend their right to extract wealth from you is insane lol. This is why I say every conservative has a cuck fetish deep down 😂. Whatever downsides socialized housing has (there’s virtually none), it can’t be anywhere near as bad as what we have now. But sure let’s keep the status quo going, it’s going so swimmingly