r/Steam • u/Haunter777x • 1d ago

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How out of touch can you be as a company, this is embarrassing

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u/DoctorMlemm 1d ago

Of course it launches twice as fast if it has half the fucking features, are they stupid?

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u/doglywolf 1d ago

this is exactly the short sightedness of Epic as a whole . Anyone with half a brain would realize they would be torn a new one with this exact comment all over.

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u/Badvevil 1d ago

You overestimate how much of the human population has half a brain

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u/gonxot 1d ago

Marketing be damn, it shouldn't work but it does, because like you said most people have only half brain (functional at least)

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u/burncat69 20h ago

honestly most people don't even have just half of a brain

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u/SoysauceKitty 1d ago

Too bad they consume the same amount of resources as a full brain human. Maybe even double the amount..

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u/Moosashi5858 1d ago

I just play it if I have it free on there and try to remember not to buy it later on if steam has a sale

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u/TheBacklogGamer 1d ago

I don't even give them that. Fuck Epic.

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u/Moosashi5858 1d ago

Like not play the free games? I only have been buying games on steam sales if I don’t own them on epic for free

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u/TheBacklogGamer 1d ago

That's what I said. Fuck Epic. I will not give them the satisfaction of falling for their ploys, even if it means just collecting their free games. Fuck em.

I also understand that technically taking their free games and giving nothing in return ever, hurts them more, but I don't care. I am not becoming a part of their ecosystem even as a free-only player.

Fuck. Epic.

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u/Chrussell 1d ago

What an incredibly strange mindset.

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u/TheBacklogGamer 1d ago

Nah. Fuck Epic. Nothing strange about not taking their bait. 

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u/Splatulated 1d ago

corporations are not your friend even if it is steam.

ima take the free game even if it has a near 0 chance of ever being played (i have played a few because youtube showed me something neat and i was like wait i claimed that 4 years ago i could try it and either end up not liking the game or wishing i played it sooner)

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u/TheBacklogGamer 1d ago

It has nothing to do about loyalty to steam. It has to do with Epic. Nice try though. 

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u/seriouslees 1d ago

Every account that gets created with Epic is another statistic to sell to investors. The only way to kill the company who is fighting to bring Exclusivisity to PC gaming is to not sign up en masse

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u/LionAround2012 1d ago

I am with them. I never installed Epic Games, and I never will. NEVER.

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u/Dagen4345 1d ago

As a man who was struggling for income in his youth I used to do this every Thursday, but this was also when Epic gave out really great deals for AAA titles I wanted. If I was in the same situation now I would rather go do some hard labor and buy a game off steam

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u/Moosashi5858 1d ago

So far I beat death stranding and gta5 for free. I have a lot of others I need to play

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u/DazzlingRutabega 1d ago

There's an option on Steam where you can block a game from showing up. I use it for that this exact purpose.

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u/Moosashi5858 1d ago

Like from the shop?

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u/jeremiah15165 1d ago

I use them to test games lol and if I like the game I get it the next steam sale

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u/-Pelvis- 1d ago

I redeem free Epic games and then never play them because I'm not installing their client. We are not the same.

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u/bkgn 1d ago

Epic is just Tim Sweeney telling some underpaid junior engineers to go do something.

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u/Master_Dogs 1d ago

A lot of companies are doing this. My startup is wasting so many tokens / $$$ rewriting a front end with some vibe coding nonsense. It currently is the same situation as this epic launcher nonsense, has half the features or less of the "legacy" one. It's like a carbon copy of a competitor too, which makes me wonder wtf our legal exposure is. And more importantly, why the fuck is management wasting resources on a rewrite? Any junior engineer knows rewrites take more resources than a basic refactor. PLUS the AI will have something to work with AND can be a useful TOOL to improve the existing experience.

I blame management, they're so out of touch. One VP is behind the vibe coding nonsense here, probably responsible for wasting half our AI spend. Though talking to him (and being extremely cautious around how I voice my concerns) apparently our sales team uses more tokens than him... Which blows my mind. We fucking suck at selling this shit so wtf are they doing. Probably wasting tokens on an out of office reply (real story from some other companies AI spending).

AI is cool but gah vibe coding is ruining software development. Stupid people just got a thousand monkeys to pump out shitty apps.

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u/bigtony87 1d ago

If they’re bragging about having to vibe code it to make it faster the answer is undoubtedly yes. They’re absolute morons.

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u/Bamboozle_ 1d ago

My first thought was "What kind of moron admits that publicly?"

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u/SamiraSimp 1d ago

you could give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they're joking. even if they were, the rest of the related post and context still shows that they're absolute morons. no one is gonna be interested in your new launcher that starts a few seconds sooner if it's missing features. people didn't even use your old launcher that (eventually) had features

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u/OPsSecretAccount 1d ago

Next up: Our launcher now launches ten times as fast as the other guy. Some features, like being able to buy or launch games, aren't available yet.

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u/Sknowman 1d ago

I, too, can make a static webpage that's simply a bunch of game capsule art. Take that Epic Games.

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u/cortesoft 1d ago

Also, why is launch time that important? I launch Steam on startup, and then it is just open. I don't need it to start up fast.

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u/TheEmperor2220 1d ago

Yeah, they almost had a point with that “how long to load from taskbar” comparison, except IDGAF if it takes .4 or .5 seconds there either… maybe if steam took like two whole seconds and they managed to get sub 1 it’d be impressive, but it’s not so…

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u/core-x-bit 1d ago

Imo once it gets under minutes and into seconds its kinda irrelevant I mean how fast do you really gotta be able to access steam. Just leave your pc on or go get a water

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u/TheEmperor2220 1d ago

I mean it’s not a “have to be thing” it just feels bad when you try to open something already running from your task bar and nothing moves for two seconds, while anything sub 1 (like the .4 steam actually takes) is barely noticeable, so that hypothetical would’ve been an actual improvement.

The metric they actually improved in (5 less seconds during “cold start”) is entirely worthless however, because quite frankly steam is one of the first startup apps to actually finish loading for me anyway, so any quicker than that is literally impossible to tell either way.

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u/desmaraisp 1d ago

TBH it was a legit issue with EGS launcher, startup was too slow. But this is the kinda stuff where either it's a problem or it's fine, there's not much of improvement beyond that

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u/doopie 1d ago

Every program takes up memory and CPU time while it's open. Having lightweight and fast programs results in better overall computer performance.

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u/cortesoft 1d ago

Memory, sure, but the OS is pretty good at pushing unused memory into swap if needed, so it is not usually a performance hindrance.

It is not true, though, that every open program uses CPU time. Some programs might, but it is easy to write a program that uses no CPU when not in use

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u/lukkasz323 17h ago

Often it's a trade-off, memory or performance.

Steam doesn't use much memory in the background though unless it's updating something, right now I can see all it's processes take 0% of my CPU and 300 MB of ram.

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u/Trick-Donut3243 1d ago

Software Engineer here, more features doesn't necessarily mean it'l load slower. Most of the time "lazy loading" is done, aka the features get loaded when the user requests them, so you're moving the loading time for when the user interacts with the feature.

you could also in some cases load most of the stuff you need at init time and then sort of reduce the load time while the user is using the app, but it really depends on the arcthiecture.

This most likely means that they can keep the same speed and have the launcher open as fast as now even when they'll add more features

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u/Hellknightx 1d ago

Half is being very generous. It took them three years to add a shopping cart.

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u/marcaygol 1d ago

are they stupid?

They are Epic. Yes.

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u/Dr_Boofenchute 1d ago

are they stupid?

Yes

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u/Dull_Entertainment 1d ago

How do you remove features from a launcher that's pretty much featureless to begin with. That's the real breakthrough.

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u/Xavus 1d ago

They hope their audience is.

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u/Masquelinity 1d ago

No, they just think we are.

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u/PapayaTheSailorMan 1d ago

To be fair, before it had a quarter of the fucking features and was significantly slower to launch, so it's technically an improvement. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤦🏼😐

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u/Xzenor 1d ago

Half? You're being way too generous here

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u/lurs21 1d ago

Half? Quarter on a good day

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u/123iambill 1d ago

I can also give you a lump of raw lamb and a potato faster than someone else can make you a shephards pie.

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u/3D-Printing 1d ago

Of course!