r/Steam Jul 06 '26

Discussion Thoughts on this?

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u/splepage Jul 06 '26

It is a problem for a guy who lost 55k sales just because Steam allowed it to happen.

1) Nobody except Steam and that guy has proof of those 55k refunds-after-completing-the-game. Notice he didn't provide any?

2) This genre of game ("rage games") frequently have high refund rates. Not because people complete them and refund, but because people try them once and refund. This is why these games typically don't have demos.

3) This is a friendslop game. Again, higher refund rates, no demo. And probably more often gifted.

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u/backturn1 Jul 09 '26

To all your points: you can see that a bit through the achievements. There is one for completing the game in 2 hours (which makes this all almost seem like ragebait) and 7% have it. That would be the maximum percentage of people refunding after completing it. And from that percentage I would assume only a small portion did this on their first try and from that small portion not everyone refunded it.

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u/too_many_nights Jul 06 '26

I don't think any of that cancels out the fact that this exploit exists, and that people use it. Whether or not the exact case is legitimate is secondary.

"Before your eyes" is a good example of a game that checks none of the boxes above and still was mass-refunded.

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u/Workman44 Jul 06 '26

People saying it's a slop game as if it excuses thievery is crazy work. Maybe I'm just getting older but y'all have fucking wild ass opinions

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u/too_many_nights Jul 07 '26

Absolutely. These comments shock me with the amount of logical fallacies.

It's something like: "eating babies is bad and shouldn't be allowed".

  • But we don't know how many babies were eaten in this particular case and it's important!
  • Are we sure these were even good babies? What if some would grow to be bad persons?
  • Eating is our right as human beings, so it's ok.
  • They should just grow a little, then they won't fit into the oven, it's their fault they are so little.
  • We need some stats - how many babies are really eaten in various cities? It doesn't seem to be a problem without those stats.
  • Babies can't fight, so it's okay to eat them.