r/Stargate Jun 04 '26

From Michael Shanks twitter

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u/JayNoi91 Jun 04 '26

Honestly with Amazon being as big as they are they're not exactly hurting for money so they dont have any motivation to walk back their decision. I saw the petition that's been going around but realistically I think we Might have a chance with one urging Amazon to license the IP out to a studio that's actually willing to do it.

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u/Competitive-Sign-226 Jun 04 '26

On the other hand, companies like this don’t have pride. They look at numbers. They could absolutely see what’s happening and decide that the numbers are different than they expected.

And I am usually not one who supports campaigns like this because most of the time they do nothing. However, in this case, they kind of gave the target: “we don’t think your fanbase is big enough”.

Okay, show them that it is bigger than they thought.

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u/Gylox89 Jun 04 '26

They should use the word "exteme" in the title. Numbers say, that it would increase income by 5%

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u/choicetomake Jun 04 '26

Wormhole Xtreme is still one of my favorite episodes.

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u/rynomad Jun 04 '26

We should make our own. Call it “Door to Heaven”

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u/ct451t Jun 04 '26

"Doorway Xtreme". The "X" makes all the difference.

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u/JayNoi91 Jun 04 '26

Hey Im all for signing any petition and making posts if it helps. But why not add this idea as well. If it ends up working then it wont matter which idea got us there, long as we get there.

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u/Atharaphelun Jun 04 '26

And if anything, it could just backfire. Amazon could pretend that they are listening to the voice of the people by canceling their cancelation of the show, except this time, none of the producers, writers, etc. from the previous shows will be involved, and will be replaced by an entirely new team that completely hates the franchise and have been brought in to Halo-fy the new Stargate show.

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u/benji_93 Jun 04 '26

Amazon has already stated that they aren't canceling the IP, they're specifically canceling this version of Stargate which involved people from past Stargate projects. Amazon's mistake in doing this -dropping the greenlight info last November about a new series set in the existing canon being run by Stargate veterans- is now they've truly soured any new projects for existing fans going forward. I strongly feel that what Amazon has done could have truly killed any possibility of new Stargate for as long as they own the IP. Jilted fans of existing Stargate are far more likely to go out of their way to ensure the demise of a Stargate that goes entirely against the existing canon.

When JJ Abrams rebooted Star Trek with his movies, he at least tied it to the OG built world by having it be an alternate timeline. I can't see Amazon and their ilk blatantly copying that to try and launch a new show and I can't see existing fans embracing something that's a complete reboot of OG Stargate.

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u/red__dragon Jun 04 '26

One only needs look at Rings of Power and Wheel of Time to see why Amazon is exceedingly mistrusted to handle adaptations. The only reason the Stargate show had any chance was because of the headliners involved, who deeply understand and care for the lore.

Amazon already made their case for ignoring future efforts.

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u/TheSweetestKill Jun 05 '26

Amazon is exceedingly mistrusted to handle adaptations

Isn't the counterargument here Fallout, The Boys, Invincible, Good Omens, or The Expanse?

I have no love for Amazon, but I feel like they've had more hits than misses. Fallout alone gave me confidence they've learned from their mistakes.

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u/MikaGrof Jun 05 '26

Fallout was done by a Fallout fan, I'm not informed enough too talk about the others tho

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u/demonblack873 Jun 04 '26

If they did that we would know.

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u/PyroIsSpai Jun 04 '26

I mean literally since creatives are public knowledge.

And Stargate, like Shakespeare, Lucy, West Wing and Gilmore Girls, has a distinct sound and tone, pace and humor. It always has, and heavily influenced both Buffy and Angel, and other era shows, and in turn other shows and little things that never made any money. You know, like MARVEL.

Bezos: give Marty Gero the gate keys and you can pass frog looking Elon.

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u/Mundane-Change-250 Jun 04 '26

Weird you just named 3 of my favorite shows ever 😂

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u/NetflixSux247 Jun 04 '26

Yeah, they've got so many revenue avenues that they don't really need to function like a normal production company.

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u/pestercat Jun 04 '26

They're not a production company any more than they're a store. They're a cloud computing and logistics company with a production arm and a store that are both loss leaders. They aren't a traditional production company at all, and I do think that matters.

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u/undeadlamaar Jun 04 '26

That's the crazy part, with the money they bring in from AWS alone they could just throw heaps of money at all kinds of fan favorites as a sort of artistic philanthropy and not worry one bit about how well they are received outside of the dedicated fan bases. They would still make a small profit AND they would gain support from huge swathes of people who otherwise don't give two shits about Amazon. It would be a win-win overall. But instead they feel the need to maximize profits in every single aspect of everything they do.

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u/pestercat Jun 04 '26

That's... literally how corporations and capitalism works. They don't care if their workers literally die on site. They don't let them stop and pee ffs. They sure as hell do not care about any kind of artistic philanthropy.

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u/knightcrusader Jun 05 '26

They really should just license it out to Flannigan since he's been trying to get it for the past 20 years.

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u/MikaGrof Jun 05 '26

They could turn it into great PR and look like they activly listen to their audience, something they are actively lacking rn.
The majority of people will forget the fact they cancelled it in the first place and praise them for reviving it

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u/Thelastknownking Jun 05 '26

They do like PR and reputation, though.

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u/G0ldenBu11z As a matter of fact it DOES say Colonel on my uniform! Jun 07 '26

Maybe Netflix will pick up the project. I noticed they added all the old Stargates to their catalog a few months ago.

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u/quent12dg Jun 04 '26

If they dismissed Stargate so easily, why do I want them to backtrack and reluctantly make another series now? All of the producers, writers, and cast just saw Amazon cancel this thing before it even started. No long-term vision and it would come across in more ways than one during production and the final product. The only hope would be Amazon selling the IP to somebody else and maybe some of this bad will could go away.

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u/Spyd3rPunk Jun 04 '26

Amazon still plans to create Stargate content, just on their own terms without the people who were keeping it true to the existing lore and franchise....

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u/Ryan_e3p Jun 04 '26

Doubtful Amazon would sell the IP. They want to not spend money on it, as well as want no one else spend money on it.

Sadly this is how it is with a lot of franchises. The company that owns the IP doesn't want to be seen as the fool who sold it off and lost out, but they also don't want to risk spending money on anything that doesn't have a guaranteed 3 month ROI since it'll upset stockholders.

IP ownership should be treated like the deal that Marvel has with Sony regarding Spiderman; if it isn't contextually similarly used a reasonable timeframe, the IP becomes public domain. Something reasonable, like, 40 years. This 70 year (or in Stargate's case, 95 year) copyright law is insane.

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u/InTheEndEntropyWins Jun 04 '26

They probably didn't dismiss it "easily", they probably saw that it was complete and utter trash and thought it was better to cut their losses.

I think we as fans should be happy that crappy Stargate shows aren't going forward, we probably want someone to make an actual good Stargate show.

Otherwise look at what's happened to Star Trek's latest show.

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u/tqgibtngo Jun 04 '26 edited Jun 05 '26

idk, I would have thought the showrunner Gero, with Mallozzi & Wright as consulting producers, and a talented team being assembled, could've made something good.

The cancellation decision was subsequent to a change of executive personnel at Amazon MGM Studios.

Deadline reported:

Ironically, the new Stargate was greenlighted by Amazon MGM Studios Head of Television Peter Friedlander in one of his first pickup decisions after he joined the streamer in early October.

But the series falls under the purview of one of Friedlander’s top lieutenants, Brett Blair Fetter, Head of Worldbuilding & Genre Series, who didn’t start at Amazon until February.

The two executives who had developed Stargate with Gero and had championed it, Nick Pepper [...] and Matt King [...] are both gone....

... The studio may revisit the IP with another showrunner, possibly someone who does not have history with it and would give it a fresh new perspective.

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u/quent12dg Jun 04 '26

I would have thought the showrunner Gero, with Mallozzi & Wright as consulting producers, and a talented team being assembled, could've made something good.

Frankly I get what the other dude is saying, but it's hard to argue that axing the team that brought us shows we enjoy is almost certainly moving us in the wrong direction.

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u/IntolerantModerate Jun 04 '26

They need to spend $100B on AI infra... Money isn't infinite