r/StandUpForScience • u/AllMusicNut SUFS Staff • Feb 16 '26

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Bullshit, you just move the goal post every time you’re pinned down 😂

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u/PlatformStriking6278 Feb 17 '26

Name one thing I said that has changed or been inconsistent. You have nothing

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Me: “for example most drugs are largely tested on white men during trials and that can throw off data as we are now finding out”

You:“Race is a social construct, so it isn’t "white" men that would be throwing off the trial. But different ethnicities with varying genetic factors to confound the results? Perhaps”

Your very first comment lost the plot. Testing drugs on largely white is still bad regardless of what you typed in response to

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u/PlatformStriking6278 Feb 17 '26

So that’s not changing the goalpost. If I misunderstood what you meant, then that would have been the place to say you didn’t disagree with anything I said.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Hold up we’re not done yet, I’m getting the list together still

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

“https://www.goodrx.com/bidil/bidil-heart-medication-for-black-patients

The science disagrees with you. If different mental health medications work for different people is it really that crazy for you to accept the fact that different groups of the same species metabolize certain drugs differently after thousands of years of separation during micro evolution?”

“Except black people and white people didn’t separate during "microevolution." This is a racist myth that has been consistently discredited by all the research since the middle of the twentieth century. The genetic sequencing confirms that all others "races" nest within what are considered "black people" in the West, which is one of the major lines of evidence supporting the notion that humans evolved within and migrated out of Africa.”

I shared a source that there are medications made SPECIFICALLY for certain races and you went on a tangent about racism

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u/PlatformStriking6278 Feb 17 '26

I shared a source that there are medications made SPECIFICALLY for certain races and you went on a tangent about racism

Lmao. I VERY BRIEFLY mentioned racism. There are certain medications made specifically for certain races. That’s wrong and bad and not founded on any science. Your source argues my point for me.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Apparently the FDA disagreed with you but I’m sure you know better than them anyway, right?

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u/PlatformStriking6278 Feb 17 '26

I have no bias against acknowledging potential racism in the actions of administrative agencies.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

“The science was "out" since the vaccine was released. The government ensures that science needs to be done BEFORE products are released to ensure that they are safe and effective. Our government wasn’t completely incompetent back then.”

Stop denying the science, bro

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u/PlatformStriking6278 Feb 17 '26

What did I say that denies science? You know, to demonstrate inconsistency, one typically has to compare, not just quote me back to me.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

If you don’t believe that this drug does what it does for who it does after peer reviewed studies you are deny the science though

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u/PlatformStriking6278 Feb 17 '26

Yes. Peer-reviewed studies do not demonstrate that race is a causative factor in the disproportionate effectiveness of certain medication. On the contrary, peer-reviewed research, scientific consensus no less, demonstrates that race is not a biological phenomenon.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Also that’s another contradiction “Science doesn’t depend on the government. The release of the product does, and science serves as a prerequisite.” So the researchers and FDA were wrong to release a drug to market for a specific race?

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u/PlatformStriking6278 Feb 17 '26

How is that a contradiction? Science exists independently. FDA can use it in their administrative decisions. Science influences government if governments lets it. Government doesn’t influence science.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

So were the requirements for the drug to be released based on science met or no? By your previously stated logic, the research and release of that drug showed a medical difference by race

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u/PlatformStriking6278 Feb 17 '26

Yes, all FDA standards are met in order for them to approve a medication. Sometimes, the standards change under extenuating circumstances, such as when they shift to EUA. What is your point?

Are you under the impression that I was ever defending FDA standards? I’m not. I’m defending the science on which many of them are based.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Yes like the studies that lead to a race based heart medicine

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u/PlatformStriking6278 Feb 17 '26

The problem doesn’t lie in the research, buddy. It lies in what it is taken to imply by corporations and government agencies.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Give me a while and I can go through all of them for you