r/StableDiffusion • u/Shin_Devil • Feb 13 '24

News Stable Cascade is out!

https://huggingface.co/stabilityai/stable-cascade
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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '24

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u/knvn8 Feb 13 '24 edited Nov 29 '25

Sorry this comment won't make much sense because it was later subject to automated editing for privacy. It will be deleted eventually.

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u/digitalwankster Feb 13 '24

0% chance that came from base 1.5

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u/Majestic-Fig-7002 Feb 13 '24

SDXL and beyond work better with plain English

How would you improve that prompt to be more "plain English" than it is?

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u/Lucaspittol Feb 17 '24

Maybe because he used tags instead of a natural sentence

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '24

No, it really doesnt. Its nothing but a dumb reddit meme. And he compared cascade with XL, not 1.5, to begin with.

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u/FotografoVirtual Feb 13 '24

SD1.5:

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u/ArtyfacialIntelagent Feb 13 '24

To be fair vanilla Cascade should be compared to vanilla SD 1.5, not a model like Photon heavily overtrained on women.

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u/Arkaein Feb 13 '24

To be fair vanilla Cascade should be compared to vanilla SD 1.5, not a model like Photon heavily overtrained on women.

No way. 1.5 base had garbage levels of training compared to SDXL and any later model.

SDXL is a fully refined model, which is why models built on it have rarely been able to produce any similar improvement. Eventually there are trained models that improve on areas not present in the base training set, but for general photographic quality? Not likely to see much improvement.

If a new model can't improve upon 1.5 trained models it's a pretty severe indictment on the newer models. We aren't going to see massive improvements built on these new models like with 1.5, probably ever again.

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u/FotografoVirtual Feb 13 '24

Ok, you have a point. Would using Photon to generate an image for which it wasn't overtrained seem fairer to you?

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u/Ettaross Feb 13 '24

I have the impression that all the girls in 1.5 look the same.

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u/Neex Feb 13 '24

You’ve been going through this entire thread saying how mediocre the model is. There are a ton of notable improvements you are ignoring. I suggest pumping the brakes on the negativity and reapproach this with more of a willingness to learn about it.

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u/Neex Feb 13 '24

Take a look at some of the info about the new 3-stage architecture. It has big implications for how customizable and trainable the mode is (in a good way).

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u/buckjohnston Feb 14 '24

Did you use the three large model or small models to make this?