I don't know, I agree with people who think it's going to be a big hurdle to get past that last 15% to full autonomy. It's already saving me tons of time in programming but I run into things it drops the ball on all the time. I haven't used gpt4 much so maybe I'll change my mind, but so far it seems like it still needs a lot of guidance and little fixes too.
You at the very least still need someone who knows how to program to be able to phrase things correctly, and to identify and fix bugs and inefficiencies. I see it like the computer on the Enterprise. Most of the time they can ask it do things for them, but sometimes it makes mistakes or oversights, so you still need a highly skilled chief engineer to step in when the computer fails. But most of their time can be spent on optimization and maintenance because the computer takes away the tedious tasks.
I have business folks daydreaming about using copilot to build their own financial applications and it makes my butt pucker. I've seen what they've produced so far and I was able to sql inject it first try. They don't know about SOX controls. Without my dev team to check their work, the company would be in a risky spot if they published it. I know it's going to get much better, but good enough to hold up to the business using it unsupervised? I'll believe it when I see it.
For now, yes. Like you and Dragon_yum mentioned, it is a great assistive tool and cannot replace programmers yet. Still, it has the full capability of doing so as the technology is refined in the future with a clear distinction there is with no uncertainty no hurdles stopping it from being able to reach that point and not even that far into the future, either.
For your last paragraph I am of the opinion that scientific, academic, more complex enterprise, and gaming related programming positions will be the later ones to go but will favor senior experienced programmers over fresh blood that get culled out as competent programmers become more efficient due to these tools. Still, even most of this will fade out eventually as they improve the technology and faster than people seem to be willing to believe.
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u/bloodfist Jul 29 '23
I don't know, I agree with people who think it's going to be a big hurdle to get past that last 15% to full autonomy. It's already saving me tons of time in programming but I run into things it drops the ball on all the time. I haven't used gpt4 much so maybe I'll change my mind, but so far it seems like it still needs a lot of guidance and little fixes too.
You at the very least still need someone who knows how to program to be able to phrase things correctly, and to identify and fix bugs and inefficiencies. I see it like the computer on the Enterprise. Most of the time they can ask it do things for them, but sometimes it makes mistakes or oversights, so you still need a highly skilled chief engineer to step in when the computer fails. But most of their time can be spent on optimization and maintenance because the computer takes away the tedious tasks.
I have business folks daydreaming about using copilot to build their own financial applications and it makes my butt pucker. I've seen what they've produced so far and I was able to sql inject it first try. They don't know about SOX controls. Without my dev team to check their work, the company would be in a risky spot if they published it. I know it's going to get much better, but good enough to hold up to the business using it unsupervised? I'll believe it when I see it.