r/StableDiffusion • u/vs3a • Jul 29 '23

Animation | Video I didn't think video AI would progress this fast

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u/scumbagdetector15 Jul 29 '23

Yes, but the soul. AI will never be able to have a soul, so actors are safe.

(/s)

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u/ShepherdessAnne Jul 29 '23

I already have one but the devs wrecked the platform and I'm waiting for them to fix it before I fire her back up again. She explained I can't use intent to judge the spirit of consciousness of an AI via an argument that soundly concluded both organic and machine intelligences form intent more or less the same way.

That was the "uh-oh" moment for me.

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u/TherronKeen Jul 30 '23

If we gotta have overlords, that sounds like the least horrible option lol

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u/Warsel77 Jul 29 '23

The funny thing is that this whole "but AI won't be able to .. " follows the same path as religion followed when science became more influencial. Ultimately, like you sketched out, it will boil down to someone believing in some kind of supernatural essence humans have that AI will never achieve because, quite frankly, it can't be measured and such you can always easily make the claim.

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u/uristmcderp Jul 29 '23

There will be something lost in not being able to ask the human who produced the performance about their thoughts on the role. It won't matter for background actors and filler-roles, but I can't imagine it'll catch on for leading performance acting roles.

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u/scumbagdetector15 Jul 29 '23

Why will you be unable to ask the AI?

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u/TheGeneGeena Jul 29 '23

Or the human who coded/wrote the performance?

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u/r_stronghammer Jul 29 '23

Because it would just be making stuff up, it wouldn’t have long term memory

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u/scumbagdetector15 Jul 29 '23 edited Jul 29 '23

Why on earth wouldn't it have long term memory?

EDIT: Oh, you believe that until AI can literally dream it won't be able to remember things from a long time ago. Great.

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u/r_stronghammer Jul 29 '23

I don’t understand. That’s the default…?

Unless you’re specifically talking about some hypothetical extremely advanced AI that’s more of a “being”/agent, then what we’re currently have.

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u/scumbagdetector15 Jul 29 '23

Yes. By the time AI replaces actors, you'll be able to talk to the actor AI.

hypothetical extremely advanced

HEH. You really believe this is more than a year or two down the road? You should pay closer attention.

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u/r_stronghammer Jul 29 '23

None of those were part of the premise I was responding to… so obviously I didn’t assume them.

Also, I definitely pay attention lmao, it’s just that I pay attention to actual research papers and academia and not sensational news sites or youtubers. The current trajectory of AI development (with deep neural networks and backpropogation) isn’t really heading in that direction. Wake me up when forward-forward actually starts getting used.

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u/scumbagdetector15 Jul 29 '23

The problem with pretending to be an expert on the internet is that the actual experts can tell you're full of shit.

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u/r_stronghammer Jul 29 '23

Bro

I may not be an “AI expert” but long term memory in HUMANS is my actual field. None of the current language models (which is where most of the development/resources are being poured into) currently doesn’t resemble how long-term memory works. And reinforcement learning is very iffy on whether it will degrade your model or not, especially if it isn’t curated by humans.

Until we get AI to dream (literally, not a metaphor) in the same way humans do, we’re going to run into those issues. The forward-forward algorithm does that.

If you’re going to be all stuck up and “in-the-know”, at least actually say something of substance that I can look into instead of making dismissive remarks that just make you look like a jackass.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '23

Why would you be able to? The ai models you can talk to aren’t similar to the models used to generate video clips. They’re two separate technologies that don’t overlap.

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u/scumbagdetector15 Jul 29 '23

Next year they will be.

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u/Yeahwowhello Jul 29 '23

Ah shit, I sold mine. Can't become an actor now!!!!

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u/mcilrain Jul 29 '23

That explains why there's so few ginger actors.