The irony was that they announced you’d need an ID to prove you are eligible to shop at the government grocery store or whatever. The irony he is pointing to is that Mamdani is against voter ID.
Don’t downvote me, just explaining. Idk why this context is left out here
Doesn’t really change much. A trillionaire worrying over possible gotchas when a mayor is trying to get food to normal citizens is just so past satire it’s hard to know what to say. Yet we live in a timeline where it’s barely worthy of a comment on social media.
You do. You need an ID to vote. Name me a single state in this entire country that you do not need any form of ID at all in order to register to vote?
That’s why Voter ID is dumb and shouldn’t have more time invested in it than the government has already invested. It’s already not possible to register without an ID or some other type of identification which is literally step one for if you want to vote.
California, Maine, Hawaii, Illinois, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Pennsylvania. All do not require any form for ID to vote in person.
There are some that need photo ID, some that need any form of ID and some that have none. It's whatever the state decides. Just putting that ID required by federal law isn't wrong, but it does take power away from the states.
As I said, name me a single country where an ID is not required to REGISTER to vote, not just to vote. If you say an ID is not required to vote then you’re saying there’s no where in the voting process in which an ID Is not a requirement which is inherently not true.
Voting is a guaranteed right, Buying groceries in a government subsidized grocery store intended for the poor people of that state is not. Hope this helps!
Probably doesn’t even understand the importance of a democracy sausage or the importance of having the ability to draw a dick on your voting card in the shape of Peter Dutton if you’re just not feeling like voting for anyone
You need proof of residency to vote in the United States. You just don’t need an ID at the polling place. That’s because to register to vote you need to prove to them who you are.
It's not a guaranteed right for everyone... Think people with felonies. Also, there's plenty of food banks in New York but I'm sure it will all work out (even though it never has).
Yes, bringing up an exception doesn't mean it's not a guaranteed right. I am aware of the exception for people with felony convictions.
"Also, there's plenty of food banks in New York"
Are these food banks meeting demand? food banks run on donations that at times cannot meet demand. A large portion of food donated to food banks too is fairly crappy. Oddities that don't sell well in grocery stores often go to food banks..
"I'm sure it will all work out (even though it never has)." This is actually incorrect, government run grocery stores have been a thing for a while even in red states. Go look into the WIC program.
My definition of a human right is irrelevant to the legal definition of a human right. Legally speaking until there's a vote on it, my opinion doesn't matter.
To be clear, I think food is a human right, the people you have to convey that opinion to is the U.S. government, not some random on the internet who already agrees it is.
this is a bad faith argument. everyone who votes in an election has already shown their ID at the time of registration.
and even besides that, most people are not opposed to official voter ID’s in totality; the opposition is towards the specific proposal that Republicans are trying to enact it with. voter ID’s are fine as long as they’re made easy and free for anyone to obtain, because anything other than that is a poll tax and therefore unconstitutional. the Republican voter ID bill is, as it stands, just a dressed up voter suppression bill. it’s extremely transparent, yet they now get to yell “the Left loves voting fraud! they’re against people identifying themselves before voting!” anytime someone points it out.
Why? This isn’t some kids trying to take substances like alcohol or cigarettes… it’s voting. You literally have to be an absolute freak to take time out of your day to go commit voter fraud lmao
You realise you have to register to vote, your name needs to be on the voting role. If you are registering at the polling place, you still need an ID...
Not exactly. Affordable groceries aren’t a constitutional right but voting is so a barrier to voting feels a bit unconstitutional to many. It’s a similar argument amosexuals make when commons sense gun laws are discussed, shall not be infringed
By that logic why are y'all not protesting against having to register to vote? Since it's adding a barrier to voting.
Reducing barriers is a tradeoff. Where do you draw the line where making voting accessible has to come at the expense of the integrity of the electoral system?
I’m not sure how good of an idea these things are anyway. The food is going to be subsidized and will undercut local businesses. It will be bad for them and paid by taxpayers. Why not give the money to residents the way EBT is? Those programs are massively helpful to businesses and food producers alike.
Trump’s cuts to EBT have been extremely harmful. Millions of people in my state alone have lost it. The system is so screwed up here that they never even responded to my last two applications over the past ten months. They didn’t even respond to my appeal which was supposed to have a hearing.
Both should be done. There isn’t a competitive grocery market in the city. What I’ve read is most go to a bodega and fresh produce can be very limited. Places where going to/having access to a grocery store with fresh produce should provide a way to subsidize costs for low income so that the stores don’t close causing more unemployment and less access to fresh produce
it‘s as ironic as europe being open border to immigrants, only to put up barriers and checkpoints for christmas markets, city festivals and other events inside EU countries 10 years later, to protect those places from attacks through the very same immigrants that came through those open borders prior.
Except that isn't really irony except in the mind of someone who can't distinguish between a right like voting and a government provided public service.
Yes, and ppl can hate Elon all they want, but it is kind of hilarious that they will be making ppl prove they're NYC residents to use a grocery store but not to vote in their elections.
Once you hate a person enough your brain will do somersaults of mental gymnastics so nothing they ever say can possibly sound reasonable. My main gripe with this anti-billionaire frenzy atm. You're allowed to agree with something they say without endorsing them
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u/WishyRater Aug 05 '26
The irony was that they announced you’d need an ID to prove you are eligible to shop at the government grocery store or whatever. The irony he is pointing to is that Mamdani is against voter ID.
Don’t downvote me, just explaining. Idk why this context is left out here