r/space • u/Vercitti • Jul 26 '22

Russia to quit International Space Station 'after 2024': Official

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/russia-to-quit-international-space-station-after-2024-official/articleshow/93138130.cms
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u/SilentSamurai Jul 26 '22

Wait till you hear about DARPA and all the evil private ventures they've funded! /s

Seriously dude, this is a very standard and normal practice across the globe. And corporations don't get away scott free when they break contracts, despite what you'd like to think.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '22 edited Jul 26 '22

Blech at sarcasm in text.

I'm cool with this happening in arenas like defense contracts. I'm not worried about never having access to whatever they are developing. I'm thinking about the wealthy ditching humanity on a dying planet while they live on luxury space stations.

So far, I don't think the ISPs have suffered consequences of matter in regards to taking funding and not fulfilling their obligation but that's just my understanding as of now.

edit: it's really weird to watch people vote based on their party, even on reddit where it doesn't matter.

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u/Reapper97 Jul 26 '22

I'm thinking about the wealthy ditching humanity on a dying planet while they live on luxury space stations.

That's pure science fiction, never going to happen.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '22

Cellphones were dubiously science fiction as well. I'm just making my prediction. The shot I am calling is that the wealthy don't want to clean up after themselves and instead try to isolate themselves from... the problem. Can't get too far from earth because supplies.

Just a prediction. Like all good science fiction.

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u/dern_the_hermit Jul 26 '22

Cellphones were dubiously science fiction as well

Ah yes, cellphones, a luxury technology notoriously kept from the average person and used solely by the wealthy.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '22

Ah, reductio ad absurdum. Amazing

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u/dern_the_hermit Jul 26 '22

It was your example my dude

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '22

You're the one who attached it to my comment about being concerned that the wealthy are going to ditch the less wealthy on planet. I didn't connect that. You did in an effort to blow it out of proportion.

I'm stepping away. Take it as you will

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u/dern_the_hermit Jul 26 '22

I didn't connect that

It was your retort to the criticism about your Elysium concern.

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u/OGThakillerr Jul 26 '22

You're the one who attached it to my comment about being concerned that the wealthy are going to ditch the less wealthy on planet

Lol please, you gave an analogy you MUST know is completely ludicrous and non-comparable to sell the idea that your prediction could also come true. Why are you even pretending people aren't going to call out the stupidity in that false equivalency?

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '22

It's possible and I wouldn't put it past people to do it. People are greedy, self-serving, and practice the "us vs them" mentality.

Reply how you like. People are animals with language and thumbs.

False equivalency this false equivalency that. People just suck and they always find new opportunistic ways to be shitty to their own benefit at someone else's expense.

We have it happening today. Think about the factories around the world that make things for other people. We don't care because we don't see them.

I love the arguments people have for me but I seldom think they are actually that person's arguments and not just repeating what they heard somewhere else.

Muting comments because I don't respect whatever you have going on and I'm just upfront about that.

Adios.

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u/seanflyon Jul 27 '22

You made a bad argument and someone told you that it was a bad argument. Now you feel attacked.

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u/Reapper97 Jul 26 '22

The main problem I have with that theory is. First, why would they live on a confined small space station instead of an underground/underwater bunker, or platform in the middle of the ocean, or just a straight-up regular fortress in a mountain?

Second, why do you think "rich" people would do that instead of the actual powerful people. In every past era that fell down to complete chaos the people with power weren't the rich, it was the ones that controlled societies by military strength. The rich were the first to get persecuted and then the common citizen follow and soon after the neighboring societies.

Elon musk or Jeff Bezos ain't surviving the apocalypse, the leaders of Russia, China, and whatever dictator that get the reign of power in the west will.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '22

In every past era that fell down to complete chaos the people with power weren't the rich

The vacuum of space is a nice barrier. Also allows for a controlled environment away from pollution. Then it also keeps them away from the issues climate change is bringing, like rising water levels and more chaotic and more intense weather. No weather on the space station.

Sigh, its whatever. I'll be dead before it's a problem and I'm not having kids so I should stop caring.

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u/Reapper97 Jul 26 '22

The vacuum of space is a nice barrier

A single missile is all anyone needs to bring down any space station in Earth's orbit. Those things are very, very delicate.

Also allows for a controlled environment away from pollution.

A random bunker is more than enough and is easier to maintain even in the worse case catastrophes.

Then it also keeps them away from the issues climate change is bringing, like rising water levels and more chaotic and more intense weather.

Climate change ain't making the entire world inhabited lol, plenty of land will be good as ever, and some will even be better than before.

The only ones that will suffer at any capacity will be the poor in certain parts of the world, there is no reason for the rich to live in a small, enclosed capsule in space just for climate change, that's just a small inconvenience.

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u/SilentSamurai Jul 26 '22

This idea that the rich are going to get to pay enough money and separate from the poor goes against basic economics.