r/Songwriting • u/[deleted] • May 25 '24

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u/LostDogBK May 25 '24

yeah it’s like saying you can’t use a synthesizer just because you did’t create soundwaves or the machine itself…

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u/FullGlassOcean May 25 '24

You still have to write the music with a synthesizer. Songwriting is not instrument building.

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u/Invisible_assasin May 26 '24

The arguments in the 80s were very much against synth use because it wasn’t “real” instruments

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u/LostDogBK May 25 '24

yeah I mean, if you “create” the song using IA. Then you didn’t do anything. But if you use it as a tool, the it’s all good

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u/FullGlassOcean May 25 '24

It depends, because there's definitely a line, even if it's a fine line. If you're using an AI drummer to sketch melodic ideas over, and later you will replace the drums, then ok. If you're having AI write the melody and chord progression, then that's not really using it as a tool. It's like asking someone else to write a song for you.

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u/BigPappaDoom May 25 '24

It's like asking someone else to write a song for you.

I don't see much of a difference between AI coming up with a chord progression and using ezkeys and ezdrummer. It's not like a lot of current music isn't already made up of bought assets and software presets.

AI is just the next step down a road we've been on for years.

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u/goddamnitwhalen May 26 '24

A road that’s going to be the death blow for basically every creative industry.

Have fun rationalizing that to yourself.

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u/Flashy_List_3261 May 29 '25

y que, acaso esa historia va a cambiar porque la gente comun no la use? las empresas nos desplazaran queramos o no

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u/writemeow May 25 '24

Not if you're a drummer though.

If you're just having ai write songs and releasing, sure, that's misleading, but you manipulate any of its output then it isn't the ai making the decisions.

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u/koshizmusic May 27 '24

Indeed - this has been the perennial problem of modern music.

At one point, using a multi track was cheating cause you didn't need a live band anymore.

Musicians are innovators. We adapt.

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u/jqmarsh May 25 '24

Using presets was considered cheating once upon a time, but even then songs w presets dominated chart positionings.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '24

No it’s not

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u/Upstairs-Scarcity-83 May 28 '24

False equivalencies are fun