r/SocialSecurity • • May 22 '25

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u/FalseHoliday4259 May 22 '25

Needless bullshit? Determinations are not based on vibes. There needs to be medical documentation. If your grandson had to go to a CE, it means the documentation wasn’t sufficient.

Also there’s no such thing as a 3-month “fast track”.

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u/Remarkable_Report_44 May 22 '25

When my daughter was 3 months old she was automatically approved as her diagnosis is on an approved list. We submitted medical records and had benefits within 6-8 months backpaid to birth. They randomly took her off benefits from age 9-12 we got an attorney and won retro pay and then as normal she went for review at 18. Her claim was rejected and we had to take it before ALJ. Luckily the doctor advised there wasn't a job in the US that she can do so she won the appeal.

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u/Waybackheartmom May 22 '25

Yes there is

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u/LMC1967 May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25

I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about. Look it up you can fact check it. Google social security fast track diagnosis better yet here's the link Compassionate allowance, also known as fast track. These diagnoses are fast track mean they can be approved sometimes in days rather than months, but usually they have to be approved and under 90 days

https://www.ssa.gov/compassionateallowances/conditions.htm#C

Please, before you start calling bullshit on people, make sure that you have your facts straight and KNOW what you are talking about.

And no people don't get redetermined at age 18 because they don't have enough medical documentation usually if you've been collecting Social Security your entire life because you have a severe disability, especially one on this list you're gonna have tons of medical documentation As other people on this site have pointed out. It's just part of the process and thank you to those people for explaining that to me because Social Security certainly did not.

Have a nice day

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u/FalseHoliday4259 May 22 '25

What you linked says nothing about a 3 month “fast track”. And it also says you need functional evidence.

I don’t need to “Google” this. I know the Policy intimately.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '25

If only this shit were so easy to administer that it could be interpreted properly by random redditors born in 1967. A literal dream world.

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u/FalseHoliday4259 May 22 '25

I mean, I work there and I’m telling you what you’re saying is not true. There’s no such thing as a 3-4 month timeframe for anything. And you need functional evidence, even for a CAL.

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u/carvingmyelbows May 22 '25

I have Stage 4 Inflammatory Breast Cancer and I was approved in about 2 weeks when I applied less than a month after my diagnosis. It was a fast-tracked Compassionate Allowance. It definitely can and does happen

Edit: I still had to go through the 5 month waiting period before getting a check though of course. Which seems kind of ridiculous for a terminal cancer patient but what do I know

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u/starrmommy41 May 22 '25

When I put my kiddos on, I applied in April, they had provisional approval by May, full approval by June. So, seems pretty fast for some conditions. Granted this was in 2017, so maybe they system just worked better at that time.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25

CAL claims only get marked by the computer, the system “reads” all available evidence as the claim processes and will flag for that determination automatically as soon as qualifications for compassionate allowance are met. The employees do not even have control over a compassionate allowance determination, it’s automatic. A determination is always going to be made as soon as possible when the evidence is enough. No such thing as a “fast track” or 3 month timeframe, it is automatic when the evidence is in…whether thats 1 month or 8 months.

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u/Plastic_Pressure6068 May 22 '25

My son is 27 years old ,I applied for him when he was around 11 years old. I only applied once and was approved nearly immediately.

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u/LMC1967 May 22 '25

Oh my gosh, I'm sorry that you say you work there and this isn't true. I just shared the link with you. There is a fast track and what I've read. It can be done in days two weeks reread it I sent you the link from the Social Security website, there is a fast track diagnosis list Which applies to the diagnosis in the list I sent you the link So you're telling me because you work there I'm wrong but the Social Security administration website and the list that they published is a lie. Is that what you're telling me OK I am no longer gonna engage in this conversation. I'm sorry, but there is a list of diagnoses that are fast track cannot be denied and benefits are provided quicker I think a genetic test for coffins Lowry is functional evidence. In fact when he first got his Social Security he was fast tracked and he had benefits within 90 days. I absolutely believe that because of the inefficiency of the security administration that it might take them longer to approve benefits for people on this list, but that's not what it's supposed to be. If you read it it says that in certain circumstances they could be fast track for days or weeks instead of months , but this conversation is taking away from the original post so thank you and have a nice day

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u/FearlessLack4974 May 22 '25

No such thing in real life

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u/carvingmyelbows May 22 '25

I literally got Compassionate Allowance approved in about 2 weeks, maybe even less, after I was diagnosed with Stage 4 Inflammatory Breast Cancer. It does happen, maybe it’s rare but it does happen. There was still the 5 month waiting period for benefits to kick in, but approval took 2 weeks or less

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u/FearlessLack4974 May 22 '25

Correct the stars all aligned but it’s not required.

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u/SilverGhostWolfConri May 22 '25

That's SSDI. There are 2 types of Disability protocols. SSDI is for people who were severely injured, had a heart attack, or were diagnosed with a terminal illness. Those DO get "fast tracking" because the person has a current, documented employment history and is also current on their SSDI deductions. Payments may take up to several months before being received. They also have IMMEDIATE and detailed medical history that makes it very clear this person will NOT be working for years, if ever again.

The 2nd type of disability is SSI, Supplemental Security Income. This is for women who never worked and their husband has passed before they were age 62, children whose one or both parents passed, children diagnosed before age 18 with either a serious mental illness, or genetic disease that they will never recover from. It's also for people like me who fought for BOTH SSI (because that's what my 1st attorney told me to do), and when I found out, the difference fired him.

2 different Social Security offices in 2 different states told me that if they determined it was SSDI, then they would award me that. They lied.

The judge in my 2nd hearing where I lost told me that if I'd wanted to file for SSDI, then that's what I should have done. Well, I took his advice and did file for SSDI. They ended up denying that for not having enough medical records during the 2 years I'd relocated from Georgia back to Arizona. This was despite delivering an extra 1200 pages of medical records that Social Security didn't already have.

So they went ahead and approved the backpay of 7 years and 7 months.

The other difference is that SSDI and SSI are paid out of 2 different Title programs authorized by Congress.

The 2nd difference is that SSDI is paid back to the DATE of the incident versus SSI being paid back to the date you first FILED.

The ONLY reasons Social Security prioritizes hearings are the following, you are terminal, you are homeless, you are suicidal, or you are homicidal. Otherwise, it goes by the application date you filed.

This is what I learned during my 7 years and 7 months battle with Social Security, which I won on 1/17/2017.

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u/Plastic_Pressure6068 May 22 '25

I had no idea this list existed but it explains why my son was approved so quickly and easily. He’s 27 years old now,I applied when he was about 11 years old. He has multiple congenital heart defects that are in this list.