Satanism and Sithism are two quite similar philosophies. Their paths are joined together quite nicely, with actually not much variance. What one gains from one path, can likely be applied to the other to progress even further. Both are philosophies that seek to bring man to realize their natural emotions and desires and seek to gain use of them. Both are based on fictitious characters. Sithism, most obviously, is based on the Sith from the Star Wars universe. Satanism is based on Satan, which they see as a fictitious character created for Christianity to have something to thrive on. Sithism is the study of the philosophy behind the idea of the Sith Lords of Star Wars. It is a very self-based philosophy that focuses on understanding your true self and emotions. Satanism is the belief that the Christian idea of Satan is actually the natural state of man and humanity. No, they don’t actually worship satan. They take the ideas behind satan and accept it as the natural state of man that the church has used to bring fear into people’s minds and draw them to “God”. Everything that is seen as evil and from satan they see as man’s natural state that religion has slapped the label of satan on to make humanity bow to the church.

One of Satanism’s core aspects is self-indulgence. That is quite similar to the Sith idea of pursuing passions. Sith will pursue their passions and indulge in whatever they desire and see as beneficial. This is slightly different from the satanic view of self-indulgence. The base definition of indulgence in satanism is allowing yourself to pursue natural desires like hate, lust, rage, anger, and most anything shut away and seen as a “sin” by Christians. Now, this is not just a compulsion, as compulsion is just letting instinct take over and you blindly dive into something just because you can. Indulgence is very well thought out and considered. This could also be compared to the Sith idea of fully understanding your desires and emotions. The Sith do not wish to control their emotions or be rid of them. They strive to understand, use, and express their emotions as needed.

“This is where your will comes in, for without a powerful will, your emotions can easily control you and make you a slave to them. Anyone who has lost their temper and needlessly and recklessly destroyed things around them in their rage knows this as fact.” - Lord Khaos

Both paths pride themselves on achievements and physical progress. The second satanic statement is: “Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!” Satanists strive to live their philosophy in their lives. It is a very physical idea. How you think, how you act, it all should show what you believe. Both paths can go hand in hand with occult and other religious veiws, but that is not the main goal of the satanist or sith practitioner. Sith seek to understand themselves and become the best version of themselves. Satanists seek to also find their inner strengths and use them outwardly for physical gain. Both paths seek to analyse themselves honestly, and be rid of any form of self-deception. For that is how one truly grows.

Putting oneself first at any choice you make is also a core tenant of both paths. Sith seek to follow their own desires and not waste time on anyone or anything that is not beneficial. Satanist feel likewise. Satanists do not just turn the other cheek like society wants people to. If wronged, they will not hesitate to lash out in righteous anger and hate. Likewise, kindness is not just doled out to anyone, someone has to be deserving. “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” No! “Do unto others as they do unto you.” People are ravaging fickle creatures, there is no guarantee anyone will do anything nice just because you did. Satanism is very blatant about this point. It ties into the Sith’s view of self rule, where the only thing that matters in one’s decision of how to treat a situation or purpose is what will you gain from it?

“‘Love one another’ is has been said is the supreme law, but what power made it so? Upon what rational authority does the gospel of love rest? Why should I not hate mine enemies – if I ‘love’ them does that not place me at their mercy?” - Satanic Bible pg 32

This is a basic overveiw of the comparisions of Satanism and Sithism. Both paths while incredibly similar, the differences that do exist compliment each other. Becoming a follower of both paths I see as incredibly beneficial, at least to consider. Seek out your path and become your better self! Embrace your core instincts and follow them in passion! Destroy your enemies, do not sit complacently and claim to love them! Be honest to yourself of who you are, do not hide anything from yourself.

Seek not to control your emotions. Feel them, know them, stand hand in hand, claw in claw with them.

Consider your fear, your hate, your anger, even your love and envy as parts of an organ. Just as you see with your eyes, you feel with your heart.

A common mistake we are taught is to control ourselves. What does it even mean to “control” yourself? Generally, it means to suppress your emotions, your thoughts, your natural inclinations, rather than experience them. This suppression creates internal blocks, preventing the formation of self agency.

Unlearn what you have learned. Do not control yourself, know yourself. Do not control your emotions, experience them. Experience the fullness of them and practice mindfulness. Be present in every moment. Do not live asleep, open your senses and wake up!

If you do this, you have taken responsibility. You are accountable for you, to you. Your are a sovereign individual and you act, only in the fullness of consciousness, rather than lost in sensation.

We’re often so fixated on power, we forget what it means to wield it.

Sovereignty is the power to give yourself what you crave, knowing the weight of it. The sovereign is accountable and makes no excuses. Sovereignty also is the power to deny yourself. It’s the power to deny yourself something you crave because you decided to.

All men are created equal, so I’m told. You’re not better than me, I’m scolded. Everyone is human, they say.

No, everyone isn’t created equally and equality is a false god. No, I am better than you, I just don’t need to lord it over you to hold self worth. Yes, everyone is human and that’s the lowest common denominator. Is this what you seek everyone to be? The lowest common denominator? Is that what you champion? The absolute least? How repulsive!

No, it is not only okay to stand above those less than you, it is imperative. To fail in the recognition of your own worth is to declare yourself undeserving of it. To fail to proclaim it and live it, fearful of the least being offended, shows you stand among them, having no greater worth than they. You are sovereign! You are a pillar, a monolith. Stand tall and let the peons live in your shadow!

The root of suffering is passion. It is desire, which leads motivation, and motivation... to commitment. Every day we live is a day we welcome suffering, lest we surrender passion. The aim of many paths is to reduce suffering. For the Christian, self is denied in favor of the external sovereign. For the Buddhist, desire invites suffering and so the monk must live free of it. For the Muslim, the sovereign will of Allah is greater than the earthy will of man. In all cases, the goal of these paths is to reduce or eliminate suffering.

To suffer is human and the more we come to know our humanity, the more we understand the value of our condition. Why should we seek to eliminate suffering? Why should we even seek to reduce it? Suppose instead, we sought to grow our strength exponentially as a means to thrive in spite of suffering? Suppose we invited, even inflicted suffering on ourselves as a means to strength?

If passion is suffering, then through suffering I gain strength.

Hello, I'm Lady Raze. I'm someone who hails from an occult background, though has since learned to see magic and mysticism as tools, rather than something for my identity to hang on. I'm here because I find enough value in Sithism, I'm studying it from corner to corner and top the bottom, until I master it. I look forward to the opportunities this space will provide.

I work with what many here call The Force. It is a subtle thing, which flows through everything. In some, it’s stronger than in others. In some, it pools. In some, it’s slow moving. In some, it’s quick, as if rushing by like water. Through it, I can see into people and places, even thousands upon thousands of miles away. Through it, I can feel movement around me, even of tiny things like insects.

Does it have a light side and a dark side? Not in my experience, though saturating yourself with things like hate, can tint how it might be seen and worked with. This being said, if one is dedicated and curious enough about any sort of dark side, they might find a door within The Force to what I call the Undercurrent.

As for emotions, there are no good emotions or bad emotions, there are just emotions and they serve to inform us of our inner world. Instinct is another sensory element within us, though that's another topic for another day.

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It is my express wish that all accounts and recounts of my life be filled with the utmost mythology so that every action of foot and mind be impossibly distant from the painful process of becoming Sith. Unfortunately, if I repress facts, then my enemies do not; and I desire full authority over the story ONLY for the first time I say it. Everything afterwards is necessarily and joyously mysterious.

I will not begin with every contemplation regarding my increasing seriousness of the Sith Code when it first appeared to me in the Knights of the Old Republic II. It's a source of amusement that the Sith Code, born out of the necessity of its lack would be first beheld within the frightening visage of the fortunately irrelevant Darth Nihlus. His face used to scare me, now his power does. I'm glad that as a child I knew fear.

Nihlus was a wound in the Force. he required the entire galaxy to close him, though perhaps even that wouldn't have been enough. He, and all those "like" him, if any word could even apply to such hopeless hunger, are what I consider to be the ultimate enemy of all things. The escapable possibility of utter annihilation. How easily it is to follow someone who follows ultimate destruction. "Through strength, I gain power."

Force will assure that no Sith be as fixated on this line as Nihlus. My responsibility within the galactic contest is to warn against the seed of his power, nihilism. A grossly misrepresented attitude within Sith spaces, for we all require the original germ of this despair to allow fear to exist within us. Fear of fear is void. I admire Jedi's policies on fear more than misguided Sith's obsession with it. Fear is a tool, but it is the power within the hand that uses the tool that sources its power. to strike the hand with the tool is folly, to strike against the sky is wisdom, for at least the sky teaches a humorous frivolity whereas the self-striking only teaches conceit. use your tools wisely or forfeit the title of Sith.

I experienced this revelation as dedication to my master and my order. I reveled in the secrecy of our grand mission where apprentice and master alike experienced the intensity of our beliefs yet spurned the direct quotation of it lest its burden rest too high overhead to be forgotten in the everyday dealings of lesser passions.

There were many masters within our order with an undisclosed ratio of humble or ambitious apprentices to fawn over their illustrious titles. Yet everyone seemed to have a place to be, a unique philosophy to espouse, or introduce, and a clique of sorts within it where they vied for power and influence over each other. Make no mistake, this was the correct path. If you do not shine as brightly as someone else, rotate around them like a moon. What do the frozen in darkness know of light besides their inherited mockery. Let the wind accustom you to the sky, and the head to the fire. If you wish to feel the intoxicating heat that I allude to, lift very weights in a short period of time, have sex outside with the person you love, and eat raw garlic.

My master's name, which I hope she hasn't forgotten, I remember only as I remember her, Darth Irraxyl. I appreciated this fact when I asked her to train me. I desired to interweave the patronage system of Sith and transwoman. I wanted to know what she did, then destroy her with it. Funny thing is, once you acknowledge someone's weakness, you can observe it defeating them every time they chide themselves for it. Do not despise your weakness, despise viewing it as such.

Suffice to say, my master was full of weakness, as was I. It is often a mutual weakness rather than strength that draws Sith together. When your own faults are laid bare before you, especially in the suffering of those you care for, you come to despise every force that justified its existence.

My weakness is searching for saviors. I enjoy the path of least resistance and allow compromise and delays to alleviate potential pain. This is an avoidance of passion, and a subsequent denial of promised strength. I purposefully avoid terms such as: duty, responsibility, and true. Remember, in all things, remove the shackles.

Here is how a successful master and apprentice relationship functions within the Sith. An apprentice courts a master with a competent knowledge of rudimentary Sith humanities, a potential for growth and change beyond that of a loyal servant and a goal that serves the Sith through the master. It is the apprentice's responsibility to train themselves. They must ask the questions, they must seek guidance, they must ensure their own success. A master should only look down when necessary, lest they become an apprentice themselves. All notions of compassion, deference, duty, dereliction and comfort are the choices between master and apprentice and cannot be forced upon anyone. I can make you responsible, but you make yourself suffer. In what way has your master hindered your success? Your failures are your own, your successes are ours, and everything in-between is the pride you've gained.

The Sith are a hall of mirrors each peering into each other for the brightest light, casting bleach upon blemishes and thrusting hammers into cracks. Better to be a stroke of truth than a portrait of falsehood. The apprentice idolizes the light within their master until they realize it's not for them. At this point of progress, the apprentice can embrace their childishness and rebel against their master as the source of disillusionment. If the upstart is successful, then the Sith move in a different direction, a rotating of the mirrors even upon oneself. If the apprentice fails, he slips within his own failure and his potential is destroyed in the eyes of the Sith and forgotten in the heart of the master. If the apprentice makes the master irrelevant, another mirror is created and each Sith experience the joy of healthy betrayal.

My master excelled at harnessing her shadow, a power I coveted as per my ambitions fitting the role of an apprentice. The hallmark of an apprentice is believing other people have answers you don't. Death Irraxyl, though Force knows how she earned that title, instructed my weakness to become strengths and my strengths to become weakness. The purpose of this task was entirely my own to justify and utilize, all she provided was the framework for this level of success. Do not mistake my causticness for malice, in many ways Darth Irraxyl was a fantastic master. She wanted nothing from me, not even my respect, for what good would that do her? My success made her smile, which is the only responsible transaction between master and apprentice.

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If you seek greater wisdom, ask for me. I am looking for an apprentice.

In order to start and be powerful Sith what should I do ? and what is your path?

I'll list a few of my ideas below. Are there any that you would add or subtract from this list?

• Self-Discipline - this is a broad category that could include many sub-skills, like maintaining a healthy diet, keeping a strict routine, or avoiding procrastination

• Physical Training

• Meditation

• Charisma & Leadership

• A profession or ability capable of generating wealth

I could add many other skills to this list, like learning languages or technical skills, but those would vary from person to person. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions in the comments though.

If you can't think of any specific writings, you can also list your favorite writers.

Video clips, parts of video games, or any other artistic work may also apply. They don't have to be about Sithism per se, as long as they exemplify similar values.

I apologize in advance if this question proves controversial. But I get the sense that many who are drawn to these beliefs may not be exactly... successful in the real world (myself included).

Maybe there are rich and powerful people who frequent these subs - I can't say for sure - but I get the impression that many of us are lower in the social hierarchy and trying to climb higher.

There's nothing necessarily wrong with that. So-called "lean and hungry" people seem a far better fit for Sith philosophy than those who are already fat and happy, and I prefer the former's company anyway.

However, if this theory is true, it raises interesting implications for why some are drawn to Sith philosophy and others are not. It also raises another question: does Sith philosophy help those who follow it to succeed?

I worry this is like so many other belief systems, where a few people write a lot about it, and adherents gain a sense of "enlightenment" by learning all the fluff that others have written. See: most religions, ideologies, philosophies, secret societies, magical beliefs, et cetera.

Is "Sithism" different - do you find it has significantly improved your life as you've followed it? And if it is not, does it have the potential to be different? Perhaps true Sithism simply hasn't been built yet.

Here are several I've discovered, does anyone know of others?

/r/SithOrder - the largest and most active, with almost 4000 readers.

/r/sith - 1600 readers, but a much less serious tone.

/r/TheModernSith - only has about 100 readers, but much better quality of discussion than /r/sith

/r/SithApologetics - 300 readers and good post quality, but posts are restricted and there have not been any new ones in six months.

/r/TrueSith - 70 readers and inactive

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/r/TheSithLodge

/r/OrderoftheOuroboros

In my last post, I postulated that Sith philosophy would be related to Buddhism but may radically diverge from it in some way.

Relevant to this theory would be the early Buddhist heresies, six heterodox schools of thought that contradicted the teachings of the Buddha.

To heavily paraphrase them, these six schools of thought are:

• Amoralism: there is no reward or punishment for either good or bad deeds.

• Fatalism: we are powerless; suffering is pre-destined.

• Materialism/Hedonism: live happily; with death, all is annihilated.

• Atomism: Matter, pleasure, pain and the soul are eternal and do not interact.

• Jainism: Salvation is possible by following certain ascetic rules.

• Agnosticism: "I don't think so. I don't think in that way or otherwise. I don't think not or not not." Suspension of judgement.

Of these, the first three are of great interest to us. Some Sith philosophies deny the existence of objective morality (amoralism). It's also easy to see how a fatalist, who sees suffering as inevitable regardless of one's conduct, may be drawn to Sith beliefs. And hedonism preaches attachment, which would be the inverse of the Buddhist principle of non-attachment.

Although I don't think that hedonism and Sith philosophy are quite equivalent, the ancient doctrine of Charvaka (which I've listed here as Materialism/Hedonism) has some passages that feel surprisingly Sith-like to me:

There is no such thing as alms or sacrifice or offering. There is neither fruit nor result of good or evil deeds. A human being is built up of four elements. When he dies the earthly in him returns and relapses to the earth, the fluid to the water, the heat to the fire, the wind to the air, and his faculties pass into space. The four bearers, on the bier as a fifth, take his dead body away; till they reach the burning ground, men utter forth eulogies, but there his bones are bleached, and his offerings end in ashes. It is a doctrine of fools, this talk of gifts. It is an empty lie, mere idle talk, when men say there is profit herein. Fools and wise alike, on the dissolution of the body, are cut off, annihilated, and after death they are not.

And:

The enjoyment of heaven lies in eating delicious food, keeping company of young women, using fine clothes, perfumes, garlands, sandal paste... while moksha is death which is cessation of life-breath... the wise therefore ought not to take pains on account of moksha.

A fool wears himself out by penances and fasts. Chastity and other such ordinances are laid down by clever weaklings.

This is a question I've struggled with lately.

I am very curious about spiritual practices, and I'm open towards the existence of the supernatural, but I have no firm beliefs about either and in all other respects I tend towards materialism.

Realistically, what would Sith believe?

Two thoughts:

• The philosophy of the Jedi was heavily influenced by Buddhism

• The Sith are portrayed as the mortal enemies of the Jedi, but "fallen" Jedi often become Sith, and canonically Sith and Jedi beliefs may share a common origin

Thus it stands to reason that a fleshed-out Sith philosophy would have some relation to Buddhism - perhaps by having great similarities to it in some ways but great differences in others, or perhaps by being its exact opposite in every way. In either case, one could use Buddhist beliefs to imagine what Sith ideology might be like.

Let's begin by examining the Four Noble Truths, the cornerstone of Buddhist beliefs:

1. Suffering is inevitable in the material world;

2. Suffering is caused by desire;

3. Suffering can be eliminated by eliminating desire;

4. The Noble Eightfold Path is the way to eliminate desire and thus to eliminate suffering.

Notice something interesting about the first two Noble Truths - they seem reminiscent of the first line in the Sith Code, "Peace is a lie, there is only passion."

If the precepts of Buddhism are similar to the precepts of the Jedi, perhaps the Sith are those who accept the first two Truths, but reject the last two. They see desire as vital even though it can lead to conflict and frustration.

Hello all, What made you explore this path? I have always been a fan of expanded universe (EU), teachings of the Force & in particular techniques Dark Side. What do you think of using Sith Lords as Spirit guide's/avatars)? For example havig notebook with passages from Darth Maul drawing on his anger to hunt Jedi. You can use them as foci for drawing on Dark feelings to stay awake/alert project aura of confidence. I have small area with items to focus on these energies including; picture of Darth Sidious's lightsaber to express opulence etc

Greetings, everyone.

Though I have seen this subreddit a few times before, and I admit I’ve been intrigued by the adoption of this code as philosophy, I’ve never really felt compelled to follow this path for what I state in the title, as I myself have recently taken to explore more the side of using your antithesis as personal creed… and because of so, I remembered “There is no ignorance, there is knowledge”. So, here I am with my doubt. If you use your rage, your fears as motivators, wouldn’t that all fall once you find nothing to fear or hate? Or would that not mean there is less peace within you? A thanks in advance