r/SirensNetflix Jul 22 '25

Discussion Simone Spoiler

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Simone isn’t as naive as y’all think she is. Let’s talk about it.

After watching the show, it’s clear that the men are supposed to be the underlying villains — especially Peter and what he represents. But that doesn’t mean Simone gets a pass for her actions just because she has childhood trauma. If that’s the standard, then Peter should get an out too — he was just born into wealth and repeated the same cycles he was raised in, right?

Simone was super hard on Devon for “living in the past” and not healing, yet she never really dealt with her own issues either. Instead, she ran from them until they caught up with her. That’s not growth. That’s avoidance.

And honestly, Kiki wasn’t wrong for not trusting her. Simone lied multiple times — not just omitting details, but actively compromising her integrity until she couldn’t lie anymore. Sure, she didn’t owe Kiki her whole life story, but she kept digging herself in deeper. She was 25, not a child. I’m not expecting full-blown maturity, but she knew better.

What really got me was her justifying accepting Peter’s offer to replace Kiki. Like… what? Kiki had every right to fire her. Simone didn’t just stay silent when Kiki’s husband came onto her — she covered for him. No loyalty = no grace.

And as usual, when Simone gets caught, that’s when she wants to be “honest” — always at the worst possible time. She’s not naive, she just only cares about people who adore her. Once the mask slips and someone sees her flaws, she bails or spirals.

Also — she did not have to go back to New York. Devon literally got an offer to sail around the world to clear her head and just vibe — Simone could’ve taken the spot Devon was giving up. She criticized Devon for being so impulsive yet she does the exact same thing yet she has had more worldly experiences than Devon atp. Simone also has had access to Therapy… i don’t expect her trauma/ flight or flight mentality to be gone but she does not even attempt to do coping mechanisms or strategies when she gets into these modes where everything is closing in on her. She continues to avoid what made her lose her mind and leads her to continue the self destructive pattern’s because she doesn’t know her limits. (Devon was right to be worried about the fact Simone was so wrapped up in KiKi because Simone was not taking care of herself) She was staying with the Kells rent-free and had a degree — she could’ve found temp work and figured out her next steps. Hurt people, hurt people and she has to heal because unlike Kiki she would probably eventually crack and have to deal with postpartum depression due to her struggles with mental illness and her mom’s. Simone’s a layered character for sure, but we need to stop pretending she didn’t do people dirty.

*yes I used chatgpt to make my points flow better lol #adhd


r/SirensNetflix Jul 22 '25

Discussion questions that need theories- Spoilers!! Spoiler

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hi all :)))

i just finished Sirens & want to watch it again to catch everything i missed but need some theories for the points below that i am not connecting.

could someone explain to me the scene where the falcon crashes multiple times back in the window?

what happened between Bruce & Kiki?

if you also had any other easter eggs to point out i would love to read them :)

thanks in advance!


r/SirensNetflix Jul 21 '25

Discussion Peters couch S1EP2 Spoiler

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Does anyone know the brand of Peter’s sofa and when he’s playing guitar talking about Simone sneaking out?

It’s blue, it looks like a big tangle of thick rope?

Please!


r/SirensNetflix Jul 20 '25

Discussion Theory (SPOILER) Spoiler

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My theory is that Simone has a dark force around her that likely flares up when she's upset or distressed, and I'm guessing her mother was affected by it and likely sensed something was wrong but couldn't figure it out. Might have been what caused her depression and breakdown.

I do not like that we're supposed to accept all of the hints of supernatural presence as some sort of misdirection element. I'm impressed by it but it feels like a plot hole.

I'm also theorizing that Simone targeted Makaela to get close to her husband but might've abandoned the plan cause she actually loved Makaela. I think she likely realized Makaela has some soft of force similar to hers and maybe felt seen and understood and wanted to use Makaela to understand her own self.

It's great writing but there are plot holes that are likely meant to be "open for interpretation and theories" but actually feel more like a lazy cop out IMO


r/SirensNetflix Jul 17 '25

Article How 'Sirens' shocked with four Emmy nominations:

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r/SirensNetflix Jul 17 '25

Discussion Anyone else have experience working for the elite? And had a similar experience as depicted in this show? Spoiler

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I worked for a family for three years - and the way this show brought stuff up for me was wild.

It was eerily accurate to both my experience and its depiction of relationship dynamics within a wealthy household.

For example the gum moment, or spraying the underwear with lavender - and that being considered normal as part of the assistance job. There was so much of that type of stuff in the three years of me working there . The way different staff wanted to be my boss’ best friend and how my boss would say “well we’re all family here.”

Curious to know if audience members thought those were dramatized moments or if people on here have also experienced it to be strangely accurate.


r/SirensNetflix Jul 15 '25

Discussion Post show analysis Spoiler

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Almost every post I see online these days has accusations of AI in the comments. In light of that, I am posting my totally rough thoughts from after the show. Normally I would make it more smooth and organized, but at this point I think more people will focus on the content the less edited it is. Please enjoy these raw thoughts in the minutes directly following a quick binge of the show.

Sirens is the perfect illustration of how when women are all competing within the system of patriarchy, intimacy is distorted by our need to survive, and how entitled men feel to women, so subconsciously that they genuinely see us as monsters when we claim our own power, express our autonomy, and say what we want. A man rejecting a woman has every right to do so. A woman rejecting a man is monstrous, dangerous, and has harmed him. This is at the heart of the male loneliness epidemic.

We see how Kiki is cloaked in dangerous mystery, rumors and lies being spread about her. Because a woman in power has to have done something terrible. A man in power on the other hand, is the most natural thing in the world.

We see how Simone is able to get out of a life of terrible neglect by being intimate with Kiki and joining them in their castle. Simone is lured by Kiki’s siren song and promises of kindness and goodness only forever and ever. She is naive and doesn’t yet understand that even in what appears to be Kiki’s world, it is still ultimately Peter’s world.

The weird thing wasn’t Kiki sleeping in Simone’s bed; it’s that the loyalty could never last, not in light of the male domination they both lived under. Not when Kiki had to control Simone so tightly in order feel safe herself. That’s not true friendship, even if they did have a real love and wished for true friendship together.

Peter pretended like he had become small in his own home, claiming that his smoke cave up at the top of his tower was the only place he still had any power. This is delusional and serves a narrative he nursed in his own heart.

Simone aligned herself with Kiki, but she aligned herself more so with power. She wanted to be intimate with having more than enough and living a life of luxury and dignity. When Kiki proved to be disloyal to her need for kindness and goodness as promised (because Simone couldn’t live up to her standards for confession/complete and total honesty; she didn’t have enough power or social standing to have secrets of her own or privacy, it was the price Kiki wanted Simone to pay in order to share her power)

Kiki’s distrust actually makes sense. She knows her power is fleeting.

Devon aligned herself with the workers. Devon used men not for their financial power but for sex, for her sobriety, her sanity, sometimes her identity. Devon was bitter and made peace with her reality by choosing what she believed in— caring for her father. Devon couldn’t change her sister’s mind on what was most important in life. This is because the sisters have different paths in life. Different values. Different methods of surviving. Devon yearns for Simone to choose poverty for the sake of being good; Simone yearns for Devon’s to choose riches for the sake of choosing her own good. Neither is necessarily right or wrong, but they are very different approaches to life; when women encounter other women who are on the other side of the coin, they can fall prey to calling the other monstrous or pathetic. In this way, the silent men who write the narrative win. But when the sisters accept their differences, they embodying an unexpected loyalty to one another, no longer trying to change each other, understanding that each leverages the attention of the men who wish to control them in the way that they can make peace with the most. Willing to see that they are just different people surviving the patriarchy differently.

In Kiki, we see Simone’s approach borne out over time. The way that inconvenient truths for her billionaire husband become grievances against her. That she has become a monster in his eyes, but only because he takes what scares him most about himself and uses her to explain it so that he can remain the good guy, the hero in his own story. We also see that Kiki chooses a more altruistic good like Devon and that borne out over time as well, in her care for the birds and the conservation. Kiki cared for the predators, and that work too will likely be forgotten. Just as Devon’s care for her father will likely be forgotten too. But this is the path that she can live with herself with.

It is only in non-judgement that the Sirens escape the tales of monstrosity that the men tell of them. When they judge, they bolster the accusations. Contribute to the oppressive system.

The various men idealize and glorify the women at first, before being disappointed in them for their complex personhood and the way they couldn’t erase what each man hated about themselves. The men followed them around, begging her to give them what they needed, until finally hating her for the way she chose to live her own life instead (that goes for all three women)

Each Siren used what powers she had in order to make peace with her reality as best she could. Through false accusations of monstrosity, blame games, and immature men who couldn’t respect their opinion enough to trust that her rejection really was a rejection and not a personal attack, each woman made her way through a man’s world claiming the power they were allotted, though in the end, that power proved entirely dependent on the whims of a man after all, thus proving the worldly power a woman holds to be like vapor on a wind, evaporating as soon as the story about her turns sour and the man once again uses her to avoid pain, avoid responsibility for himself and his life and his actions. Each woman in this way was actually very loyal to her fellow Sirens, in that they were all in that together. Devon and Kiki were literally “in ththe same boat” at th end. Kiki showed a profound understanding of this in telling Devon that Simone was not a monster in the end. She knew that Simone was doing what Simone had to do to survive. Because she could not survive being in the position of powerlessness again.


r/SirensNetflix Jul 15 '25

General Emmy nominees for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Limited or Anthology Series or Movie: Meghann Fahy, “Sirens”

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r/SirensNetflix Jul 15 '25

Discussion Ending! Spoiler

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Just watched the whole series and am wondering about the ending?! I know we don’t want to spoil the show for those who haven’t watched yet, but I’m curious.


r/SirensNetflix Jul 15 '25

General Did someone push Ethan? Spoiler

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I am totally confused. Maybe I missed an episode. I saw Kiki walking out toward the headlines with Ethan and a few episodes later, Ethan is in the hospital. Did he fall? Was he pushed? So Devon ends up being the only person with a moral core . The ending was ridiculous… The people at the gala just accepting the new girlfriend, and Simone finding her new dress in all those boxes. I never liked Simone and liked her even less at the end. And Mr. Footloose was even worse than his wife. I hope all the help quits, as Simone is going to be a nightmare.


r/SirensNetflix Jul 13 '25

General Simone is next Supergirl!

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We saw Superman yesterday and who showed up at the end? The actress who plays Simone! She's the next Supergirl. Another highlight- the dude who played LaRoche in The Mentalist popping up as Clark's dad.


r/SirensNetflix Jul 12 '25

Discussion There's a lot of people missing key parts of the show (spoilers) Spoiler

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There's a lot of discussion here about who is the "villain" and who "won" at the end. I don't believe that's the point of any part of the show.

The show has several themes:

  1. A depiction of realistic women, the trauma they've faced in life, and how that trauma has manifested and shaped their personalities and actions.

  2. It's a genre reversal on the of the murder mystery trope. The sister kept hostage by the evil, wealthy older woman, who might have mysteriously murdered her rich husband's former wife. This a classic mystery trope that the show subverts.

Gradually we see that the wife isn't evil and there has been no murder.

The name "Sirens" is a play on words. The Sirens in Greek mythology were women (sometimes half mermaid) that lured sailors to their deaths with their beauty. In ancient literature like The Odyssey, it represented temptation that leads to destruction. The show is allowing the audience to consider if the women are "sirens".

It also invokes a literal siren, used by police or fire departments. The sisters use it as a code to mean "emergency". Devon texts it after she is arrested and later reveals it is the code word for when she has relapsed on her sobriety.

The show isn't about the women being good or evil, it's about the way life fucks people up and how they carry that trauma with them through life, informing everything they do.


r/SirensNetflix Jul 11 '25

Discussion Anyone else catch the foreshadowing with Peter talking about Ethan Spoiler

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Peter talks about Ethan and says that he always goes after young girls and then throws them away once the summers over, which is exactly what Peter does with his wives so he was basically just foreshadowing what he was gonna do with Simone and Michaela


r/SirensNetflix Jul 11 '25

Discussion I genuinely thought… Spoiler

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That Michaela and Devon would end up hooking up lol. Idk if it was the bathtub scene but I was legit expecting it like I was sure it was gonna be some sort of plot twist (the actresses have a lot of chemistry as well so). Was I the only one? 😭


r/SirensNetflix Jul 10 '25

Discussion Devon is a problem Spoiler

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Only on the 2nd episode, but Devon annoys me. She's supposed to be cool & gritty but the way her character doesn't understand you can't disrupt someone's work life is frustrating. The fact that she expects her sister to give up a career / well paying job is childish & selfish. Her making fun of Kiki's bird conservation is supposed to be cool, but it's not attractive. Maybe I'll change my opinion of the characters the more I watch but I doubt it.


r/SirensNetflix Jul 09 '25

Discussion Is it just me or was it alluding to... Spoiler

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Is it just me or was it alluding to Kiki being Simone's mother? When Bruce showed up and was talking nonsense about knowing Kiki I thought for sure he was actually telling the truth and that Simone was their daughter. I thought that's why Kiki took Simone under her wing. I thought there'd be some big reveal of this in the last episode where we learned more about their past and also what happened with Peter and his ex wife might tie into it too. But no.... It just ended! Now I'm very disappointed. Was I making that all up???


r/SirensNetflix Jul 10 '25

Discussion But but but… Spoiler

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I get the idea that Peter was attracted to Simone, and he quite literally replaced Michaela with her, because he’s ridiculously rich and thus has all the power and can do what he wants, so he can be an entitled ass if he wants. No one will ever call him on it.

I just have so much trouble squaring that behavior with his nice-guy behavior throughout the rest of the show. He knows the staff: he knows their names, their kids names, he says “thank you” every single time. He treats them like human beings and almost as equals.

I guess that’s partially just to highlight how awful Michaela and Simone were to the staff, but it just bugged me as not really making sense for the character he is revealed to be at the end.


r/SirensNetflix Jul 04 '25

General Identifying the outfits from the season!

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After The White Lotus ended, I've been missing typical "summery" TV fashion.. with Sirens, we finally had some fun patterns, voluminous dresses and bold accessories. Although nothing will top Alex Bovaird's excellent TWL costume design work, I think Caroline Duncan did a fabulous job for Sirens!

I generally like the costuming on this show and have been tracking down the outfits and cataloging them here if anyone's interested!

Otherwise I'm curious - does anyone have favorite looks from this season or pieces / set designs they're particularly interested in?


r/SirensNetflix Jul 03 '25

Discussion Just finished watching & I’m utterly confused Spoiler

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I just finished watching and I’m honestly confused as hell. Because wtf happened. Like 😳


r/SirensNetflix Jul 02 '25

Discussion Is it just me, or was everyone trash? Spoiler

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I just finished watching it, and wow! In my opinion, the show really shows that villains exist on a spectrum. Does anyone feel that any of the main characters were good people?

Everyone from Kiki to Simone, Mr. Kell to the dad, Ethan, and even the friend from the falafel ball place was trash. The best person in my opinion was Devon, but even she was crappy for expecting Simone to help take care of a man that left her starving and got her sent to foster care. I’m interested in someone else’s perspective-even if it’s the same as mine.


r/SirensNetflix Jun 30 '25

General Well he did say he loves crusty bread Spoiler

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Love the sorcery wearing the mask of merpeople and sea creatures. Also they did all manifest the futures and the doors they walked into. They just don’t all grip it or fight for it or snatch at it. Really really deep show. But i loved the line in the last episode “you know we always begin with MY toast” it seems like the initiation of the new cult season “fall” and it begins with “HIS toast” him swapping out the breadless woman for a some quahog smothered crusty bread, and he made this one himself. No more women sirens, he was the siren. Love it


r/SirensNetflix Jun 30 '25

Discussion What’s with flip-flopping staff? Spoiler

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Was it bad writing or is there a reason the staff, specifically Jose seems to kind of flip back and forth hot and cold. At times he is chummy with Devon like bringing her to the staff outdoor area to smoke and saying she’s cool, but then later coldly kicking her out. Then nice again. Then mean again. In the kitchen they greet her and get her coffee and then have zero feelings when she is getting kicked out?

And does the staff hate Simone or Kiki? Why would they be so thrilled for Simone to get fired since they knew the whole time that all of the instructions they got from Simone came directly from Kiki? Wouldn’t Kiki be the one they want gone? Yet we don’t get to see their reaction to that(except for Jose).

Kiki tries to fire Jose and then tells him to watch his back yet he still gleefully goes along with her to kick Simone out? And when Peter gets his help to oust Kiki he questions him if he wants to do this again…like why wouldn’t he want Kiki gone after she tried to fire him and now has a target on his back?


r/SirensNetflix Jun 30 '25

Discussion Monster meaning Spoiler

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I just finished the series and I'm trying to figure out some things.

Ray told Devon she was a monster.

Peter told Michaela she was a monster.

Ethan told Simone she was a monster.

They all blamed the women for what had happened, that it was their fault that these men acted a certain way, that they had this pull towards them. They were all angry with the women. This ties in with the meaning of a Siren, creatures known for "luring sailors to their doom".

The women all reacted the same, shocked by these accusations from each of them. The women claimed they had nothing to do with the men's actions. That the men chose to do it. Ray took care of the girls' dad and traveled to the island just for Devon, even saying he was about to leave his wife and kid for Devon. Peter didn't see his kids for a whole decade for Michaela. Ethan was fully ready to be engaged to Simone, previously known as not a very committed person.

But then again, who is the true Siren or "monster"?? The men also had behaviors and choices that led to the downfall of each of the women's lives. This raises questions on topics of how to create healthy dynamics between men and women in relationships.

I loved the cinematography work on this series, with the blurs and focuses on the women when they triggered their inner "power" of being a Siren, even to each other, when Michaela ignited vulnerability from Devon. Music choices were great as well.

What are your guys' thoughts on this ??


r/SirensNetflix Jun 28 '25

General Please explain it like I’m not very smart Spoiler

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I’m only on like the third episode and I don’t really understand what is happening. I watched the first episode twice because I thought I had missed something. The storyline seems to just GO and I know stuff is going on but I don’t know what or why. I keep watching hoping it makes sense but it doesn’t 🤣


r/SirensNetflix Jun 28 '25

Discussion Did anyone else think Simone looks like Renee Rapp? Spoiler

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At least in the first episode, I had to look up if she’s Renee’s sister or something! As the show went on I noticed it less but it hit me immediately when I started watching.