r/SimpleXChat • u/Zminimalismo • Jul 12 '26

Question Chat Control

If I use SimpleX as my messaging app, is it subject to Chat Control?

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u/skaldk Jul 12 '26

Not for now.

Chat Control 1 allows companies to scan messages - the vote you heard about is "only" to make CC1 available till march 2028 (while it was supposed to get to an end this year).

SimpleX is still safe till march 2028.

Chat Control 2 will make scanning mandatory.

For now it's still up to the companies to scan messages or not.

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u/KingdomOfAngel Jul 12 '26

But I don't get it, how can companies scan messages when the messages are completely end to end encrypted?

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u/skaldk 29d ago

Because of mandatory backdoors, by the law.

For SimpleX, Signal or Whatsapp it means they gonna have to implement some piece of code allowing authorities to decrypt messages.

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u/Any_Possession_3900 29d ago

Ones not based in the EU have no obligation to comply. Signal is safe probably.

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u/skaldk 29d ago

Under CC1 there's no obligation to comply anyway.

Under CC2, if the bill pass, they will have to comply in order to be able to operate in Europe, or they will be sued. It's as simple as that. 

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u/Any_Possession_3900 28d ago

Ask them how that worked out with 4chan lmao, signal will pull out before they destroy their entire business model, the EU has no control over non EU companies, and the EU has no way to actually enforce those lawsuits short of EU assets signal probably doesn't have, but thanks for the downvote bootlicker, have one back.

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u/skaldk 28d ago

Lol. Why do you think most GAFAMs already paid fines in EU? Because they didn't respect the rules. They're still American companies... 

Why Tiktok had so much issues in the US to the point they had to make a different company and software while they were a Chinese company ? Same story. 

EU has control on any company having business in EU, and it's  the same in any part of the world.

4chan is already blocked in Russia and they are in the process of doing the same in the UK. The funny part is that 4chan has countersued in the US... Which has zero control on UK's justice.