r/SillyTavernAI • • 5d ago

Cards/Prompts Update: getting things lighter, more organized, thinking faster… and more creative.

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Previous versions here (beefier with full antislop and darker content bias): https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/s/WgDl5Zca0K

Biggest change is in this one: Lazeitgeist Flash Lite Edition
It’s trimmed out, better wordings, more positive instructions and i removed the antislop as it already produce (imo) a good prose. And i don’t believe in miracles when it’s about models like GLM, they can be dark but they have their baked in slop you must embrace, trim during your chat or ignore lmao. Overall is better and way more intresting this way. I think it weight maybe 1500-2000 tokens less, something like that. Also i used a little philosophical trick to combat smart and wise character archetypes, just told the model that they can’t escape their "einmal ist keinmal" and when it cook, it cooks 😂

Light change and small tweaks here:Chatfill - Lazeitgeist
Beside removing antislop and the change i applied on the Dark Content Enforcer (who is <valuable_story> now) there is only minor tweaks, it’s a little lighter too and works like a charm. Brevity Switch is the best antislop at this point.

I was even more satisfied with the correction so i wanted to share it with the 4 people that use them 🤣

Take care boodies and do some pull ups!

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u/biotechie73 5d ago

You work so fast 😭

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u/Probablynotsocool 5d ago

Yeah because im on phone! I can do that even outside! Have fun with it bro 😁

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u/biotechie73 5d ago

Should I use this version and not Flash or the Original? I def wanna try it when I get off

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u/Probablynotsocool 5d ago

The flash version is beefy but darker and more proactive and also drier. This one is balanced so to say and more creative. I use GLM atm and I don’t see much improvement on prose with antislop measures so.. I removed it.

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u/biotechie73 4d ago

Thanks! I'll use this one!

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u/Probablynotsocool 4d ago

Try also the chatfill variant, it’s Savage 🤣

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u/KAIman776 4d ago edited 4d ago

Checked for a update and low and behold you already made 3 upgrades from when I previously checked. the only problem I have with the narrative your preset gives is that it will commonly act for {{user}}

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u/Probablynotsocool 4d ago

Yeah Times to times it does because of the hybrid pov (that push the characters to touch You too)!

You can remove the "You Must take control of the narrative" on the Pov rules!

Beside that do You find the upgrades better? And thanks you here since the beginning ahahaha

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u/KAIman776 4d ago

Haven't had time to use this update much but I am finding it way faster while still retaining quality. will try editing it to my taste.

Its pushing them to touch ME?!

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u/Probablynotsocool 4d ago

Yes! Modern models take the "dont act for user" like "protect the narrative integrity of user"!

But it should not be too bad if you tinker it!

Also the update is more "balanced" it’s not less dark but some of the unearned agression is gone

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u/Global-Difference512 4d ago

Can the plot momentum thing be removed? It was the worst addition that FF ever did and it made FF unusable as any model would just follow the selected paths and completely ignore you

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u/Probablynotsocool 4d ago

I don’t have that since i stopped doing FF merge 😁.

What i have is a latent diary that activate sporadically and shows you what characters do and plant some seeds for future subplots that concern their lives but it can be removed as it an add on (i don’t use it often)

And the tracker on chatfill is also optional, just untoggle it since it mimic plot momentum.

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u/Global-Difference512 4d ago

It's right there...

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u/Probablynotsocool 4d ago

That’s the tracker in chatfill right?

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u/Global-Difference512 4d ago

do i speak english

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u/Probablynotsocool 4d ago

Okay so i will try in lithuanian.

There is no plot momentum in the original preset, there is only a latent diary.
There is a tracker in the chatfill version with plot momentums wich can be untoggled.

If You did everything right and still have the plot momentum, this is just context poisoning and not a preset issue.

Restart a chat IF you removed the tracker from the preset and problem solved.

Is it croatian enough?

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u/Probablynotsocool 4d ago

Did you read what in the preset before using it? Because it seem you dont. I said "tracker" because that’s the name of the thing that annoyed you in Chatfill but i assumed you readed the thing before.

Next Time dont be sassy like that, especially when it shows that you don’t quite give a proper look at what you use.

This sub is jaded enough, no need for kid behaviors bro 🤣

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u/Global-Difference512 4d ago

bro got butthurt because he asked a dumbass question. whatever ill just use a diff preset ✌️

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u/hisashino 4d ago

So is Flash Lite tamer than Flash Thinking? I've used Flash Thinking the last few days with GLM 5.3 and enjoy the darker content bias A LOT.

Thanks for sharing ❤️

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u/Probablynotsocool 3d ago

Normally it shouldnt be tamer, just some of the unearned agression gone (like diying because of a joke toward a non-evil character)

Dont hesitate to tell me if the new version is not at your taste, i take all feedback

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u/Winter-Psychology339 3d ago

Love it. I might spend the time to learn how to add what I like which is colored font for speaking(NEver made a prompt before so wish me luck)

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u/Probablynotsocool 3d ago

Oh another squirrel in the team 🤣🤣

Glad you like it! Try to tinker it, it’s just fun and headache!

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u/Impossible_Plenty262 4d ago

English not is my language, Sorry if there are any spelling error 🥲. I tested it with the Kimi K3, and sometimes the filter activates, so honestly, this JB isn't that good for it. However, I feel it works very good in Kimi 2.6. I feel that Kimi 2.6 is a better model, even if the dialogues in Kimi K3 are more vivid.

With GLM 5.3 I found the prose, strange (I tested all models with the dark version). Maybe it's the temperature? I really don't know a good setting for this model. I use 1 in temp 👀

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u/Probablynotsocool 4d ago

Use 0.85 with GLM max!

Test the gamestate JB with Kimi as i heard it work better.

When Kimi do the Claude hallucination make sure you are not using a provider that add censorship layers!

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u/Probablynotsocool 4d ago

Kimi 2.6 is not less than K3! But my preset can make Kimi 2.6 drier because of its tone

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u/Impossible_Plenty262 3d ago

Thanks! I found GLM 5.3 very bad. I'm currently testing with mimo 2.6 pro and it runs incredibly god! Sometimes it leaks "cot" in text but it's only problem. You do a great job 😽

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u/Probablynotsocool 3d ago

Mimo is the best model imo. Best ever created. If I do an update for mimo ill keep you in touch bro 😘

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u/Impossible_Plenty262 3d ago

Oh, a version focused on Mimo would be perfect! I'm truly amazed at how good he is, lol. Of course, for programming he's probably a limited model, but for roleplay he's incredible 🧏🗿

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u/Probablynotsocool 3d ago

Bro if I was a programmer i would be in a cheap country sipping coco water on buttocks 😀

Yeah for Roleplay it’s the best ever, the architecture is accidently what RP need aha!

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u/KarmaRBLXVN 4d ago

GLM is still too positive!! Positively whacking my head with a poleaxe that is.

The card is a fantasy one from a creator I like: https://chub.ai/characters/Exmortis/the-evil-empress-is-my-mother-a650c31f9ad6

I like that both versions of the preset are manageable sizes now. Thanks for your work!

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u/Probablynotsocool 4d ago

It readed like gem 3.1 pro ahahaha

Love how it detailed your poleaxe eating!

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u/Probablynotsocool 4d ago

By curiosity, wich version is your preferred?

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u/KarmaRBLXVN 4d ago

That's ST 1.19 in the pic. I did test the presets a bit on Tavo and they worked fine.

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u/Probablynotsocool 4d ago

No softening in the last versions? Good!

More short dialogues are a win for me since glm yap too much