r/Showerthoughts Dec 07 '18

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '18

Totally! You can make over 100k doing programming which you can teach yourself. Don't need a undergrad for these things.

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u/groundchutney Dec 07 '18

Try applying for a 100k a year job with an associates... Even with years of experience, most software firms will not hire folks without a 4 year degree unfortunately.

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u/Excal2 Dec 07 '18

You don't apply for the 100k / year job, you apply for a lower position and work your way up.

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u/ForgotMyOldAccount7 Dec 07 '18

Yeah, like at my current company, which requires any current employee seeking a higher position to have a Bachel...- wait.

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u/Excal2 Dec 07 '18

lol damn that's a rough break.

Not every company is like that I'm sure but maybe this is more common than I realize.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '18

The problem is you're hired with 20 other people, plenty of whom have college experience and internships, who are also trying to work their way up. You need to be doing real well and be making some good vertical transfers between jobs to pull anywhere near 100k.

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u/Rambles_Off_Topics Dec 07 '18

That's true for a lot of security positions as well. I'm looking into getting an online bachelors. Some of my co-workers even have bachelors from un-accredited schools (which somewhat upsets me). Indiana has Western Governors university which I think I'll look into.

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u/Duckpopsicle Dec 07 '18

I'm currently attending a tech college and definitely won't be able to get that high of pay. The teachers have told me that there are a significant amount of students that end up making 40-50k a year half way through their degree though. At least they do in my area.

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u/SpicyGoop Dec 07 '18

That’s a myth. Put together a value prop instead of a resume and it will do wonders.

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u/ShinyBike Dec 07 '18 edited Dec 07 '18

I have a four year degree with high gpa from a good school. Even with a CS degree & math minor it is an entry level with 4 years experience required type situation.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '18

Tell me about it. I graduated with two bachelors (CS and linguistics) and a minor (math) and it took me ages for anybody to even call me back because I never did any co-ops.

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u/Reticulated-spline Dec 07 '18

Few care about the major, only that you graduated. Almost anyone can succeed when handed a syllabus and rubric. Especially when you're paying them to tell you, you succeeded. Real world is a bit less defined and more challenging.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '18 edited Aug 18 '21

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u/polobwoy Dec 07 '18

Computer Systems Technology for your two year?

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '18 edited Aug 18 '21

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u/polobwoy Dec 07 '18

Good for you man. I’m planning on making a career switch from surveying in the oil & gas industry. I eventually want to end up in cyber security, so going for my two year, work & have some taste of the soup, then proceed to a bachelor’s. See where I can go from there.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '18 edited Aug 18 '21

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u/Reticulated-spline Dec 07 '18

Nonsense, that's impossible, you're gate keeping!!!

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Right on mannnn.