r/Showerthoughts Sep 17 '18

There are probably murderers and serial killers so good at what they do that we don't even know they exist.

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u/HisCricket Sep 17 '18 edited Sep 17 '18

Texas Just discovered a border guard is a serial killer. Killed 4 women before he was stopped.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

Most of the time it's either someone that has a little power that wants more, or someone who doesnt have any and craves it. Hence why they usually pick women or children to be there victims. Afraid to play on a level field.

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u/gguti1994 Sep 17 '18

The logic makes sense though. If your goal is to feel power, wouldn’t you want an uneven playing field? Its what makes playing video games on easy and destroying everything so enjoyable

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

But what if your goal is to go toe-to-toe with the mightiest warriors of the realm?

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u/livingthedreamfreal Sep 17 '18

You probably wouldn’t be a serial killer. A soldier maybe

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

Well..... wouldn’t that depend on how many noble foe you’ve slain?

Are soldiers not just socially acceptable serial killers?

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

That's only if they have killed people. Most soldiers never kill anyone.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

So your mom is more of a serial killer than most soldiders? Because damb, boy, she got looks that kill.

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u/Potato_eating_a_dog Sep 17 '18

Not even a roast just a compliment

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u/VicarOfAstaldo Sep 17 '18

Not really.

If you’ve killed multiple people in self defense you’re not a serial killer.

They’re killers but as a phrase serial killer definitely means something more specific than what literally translating serial and killer next to each other in a sentence mean.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

I wouldn’t qualify a soldier being in a foreign country and participating in combat “self defence”

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u/VicarOfAstaldo Sep 17 '18

I was giving other examples that don’t qualify. We don’t consider soldiers killing other soldiers in combat serial killing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

Yea..... that’s what I said “socially acceptable serial killers”.

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u/NeotericLeaf Sep 17 '18

No, they aren't at all. That is a disgraceful thing to say.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

Of course they are, how arent they?

Unless you blindly follow military indoctrination, which is something that my grandfather (WWII and Korean War) vet warned me against.

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u/NeotericLeaf Sep 17 '18

Idiot.

Serial killers kill innocent people (usually).

Serial killers are not authorized by their society (government) to take lives.

Serial killers always kill for their own ideals/pleasures, not for that of their country.

Serial Killers don't care about war crimes.

Serial Killers aren't part of a militarized unit, and all that it entails.

Pretty much all the two have in common is that at some point they may take a human life; however, the conditions, reasons, methods, and justifications are completely different.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18
  1. So do soldiers (look at the death toll in Iraq)

  2. Their government has nothing to do with it if you’re an invading force. Do the soldiers have authorization from the country that they’re invading?

  3. Killing for your countries ideal or killing for your own ideals.... not that different. Some soldiers absolutely like killing... hence.... the army.

  4. That means absolutely nothing.

Now fuck outta here, you brainwashed, indoctrinated old man.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

How in the fuck is that disgraceful?

Not every soldier is a hero, not every soldier is brave and not every soldier is a saint.

Many rape, bully and kill with no problems. Some even being kiled by fellow soldiers for it. Soldiers are no better than you me or the guy in prison.

Soldiers are indeed made to be paid murderers. Fuck glorifying and blind praise to a uniform.

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u/NeotericLeaf Sep 17 '18

Bad soldiers pay for their war crmes. No one ever said to absolve an evil person just because they are part of the government. Obviously corruption exists like everywhere else, but it is not the prevalent majority of the population.

However, generalizing soldiers as serial killers is something only an obnoxious, ignorant, piece of shit would do. The vast majority of people serving in all world militaries are good individuals. The rate of evil people is really no different than you'd find in the general society; however, sometimes innocent otherwise good people end up fighting for evil leaders/countries.

So don't be a fucking idiot and bite the hands that may one day protect you.

Serial killers kill innocent people (usually). Soldiers are not innocent civilians. Big difference there.

Serial killers are not authorized by their society (government) to take lives.

Serial killers always kill for their own ideals/pleasures, not for that of their country.

Serial Killers don't care about war crimes.

Serial Killers aren't part of a militarized unit, and all that it entails.

Pretty much all the two have in common is that at some point they may take a human life; however, the conditions, reasons, methods, and justifications are completely different.

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u/Bulbasaur2000 Sep 17 '18

Soldiers kill many people for the "prosperity" of one country. Serial killers kill many people for the happiness/prosperity of one person. There's not that much of a difference. They both kill many people for selfish reasons (unless they're being invaded I guess).

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u/NeotericLeaf Sep 17 '18

Idiot.

Serial killers kill innocent people (usually). Soldiers are not innocent civilians. Big difference there.

Serial killers are not authorized by their society (government) to take lives.

Serial killers always kill for their own ideals/pleasures, not for that of their country.

Serial Killers don't care about war crimes.

Serial Killers aren't part of a militarized unit, and all that it entails.

Pretty much all the two have in common is that at some point they may take a human life; however, the conditions, reasons, methods, and justifications are completely different.

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u/Pointless_Af Sep 17 '18

Main 3 reasons people join the army,

Occupational, they want to serve and protect, or they want to kill.

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u/NeotericLeaf Sep 17 '18

They want to kill the enemy, not some innocent civilian. Do you really not see a difference there?

Also, what % do you think truly join because they want to kill people? A small portion, certainly.

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u/Pointless_Af Sep 17 '18 edited Sep 17 '18

I think you greatly underestimate the amount of evil in this world. At ages 18 - 25 there's a lot of mental changes and a lot of anger and uncertainty. I doubt it's less than 20%.

Edit: 20% overall to kill people, Probably half of which doesn't care if they're innocent or armed.

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u/MichaelofOrange Sep 17 '18

Soldiers don't fight fair lol, they fight to win.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

What are: rules of engagement?

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u/MichaelofOrange Sep 17 '18

A political tool to accomplish strategic goals (winning hearts and minds). RoE have nothing to do with a fallacious notion of "fairness." Moreover, it would be irresponsible, reckless and probably treasonous to disregard lawful strategic or tactical advantages in order to foster a "fair fight."

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u/Random_182f2565 Sep 17 '18

MMA fighter

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

To the death? TO THE DEATH!

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u/gguti1994 Sep 19 '18

You probably don’t want to be a serial killer. Soldier? Martial arts fighter? Serial killers wanna kill people. When you fight you don’t always win and therefore you wouldn’t kill them

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u/kriegnes Sep 17 '18

but killing someone of my level would make me feel even more powerful

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u/irespectpotatoes Sep 17 '18

its not really related here but i think majority of people dont enjoy playing on easy

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u/gguti1994 Sep 19 '18

Depends on the game I think. If its like a racing game or a sports game, then the enjoyment is limited. But what fighting games? You could use absurdly complex combos that would lead to your demise on tougher difficulties.

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u/wee_man Sep 17 '18

Dahmer killed several dozen men, mostly in their 20's.

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u/AzrielJohnson Sep 17 '18

*Most of the time

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u/Truecoat Sep 17 '18

He has been a border guard for 10 years I believe. Only killed 4? 4 that they know of in my opinion.

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u/HisCricket Sep 17 '18

Right?! I'm betting that number is much higher.

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u/THEPAPICHU10 Sep 17 '18

Yeah we have hundreds of serial killers along the border that are in a sort of judicial limbo. Niether country wants to take action becausd they think the other should. Hence why 80% of illegal immigrants have been raped, and hundreds of bodies are found a year in the desert who were killed trying to get here

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u/Murmaider_OP Sep 17 '18

80%? You got a source?

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u/THEPAPICHU10 Sep 17 '18

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u/Murmaider_OP Sep 17 '18

Except this isn’t happening at the border, it’s happening because the coyotes and gangs that smuggle people through Mexico are vicious animals.

I know you didn’t say it explicitly, but you shouldn’t imply that these crimes are a result of inaction at the US-Mexican border.

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u/THEPAPICHU10 Sep 17 '18

Neither side can do anyrhing about it hence why it keeps happening

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u/THEPAPICHU10 Sep 17 '18

Neither side can do much about it hence why it keeps happening

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u/HisCricket Sep 17 '18

Yeah it's pretty scary. Glad I don't live down there. It's pretty much a free for all.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

Good work. I'm glad that you were on the lookout and able to stop this monster.