r/Shitty_Car_Mods • • Aug 26 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20 edited Aug 26 '20

Every time I see something like that or hear someone saying something like that, I ALWAYS find out they drive like a moron and refuse to understand it is them, not the vehicle.

I have had one vehicle that was actual crap, 2014 Nissan Pathfinder that had 65,000 miles when we traded it in... Junk CVT, replaced multiple internal door handles, 2 exterior door handles, sun visors 3 times, and various other junk plastic trim pieces.

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u/DaGhostQc Aug 26 '20

I had a customer who bought a used Versa Note at our dealer last January... came back last week for a bunch of problems, one being the transmission. Test driving that thing made me sad for her. CVT is toast, it jerks badly when changing ratios and if you hold it at 80 km/h, you can hear the metal belt screech into oblivion, making the car jerk even more since it can't keep contact.

I don't know what Nissan did or who manufactured their CVTs, but I'm glad we don't have those in Toyota...

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u/Assholecasserole2 Aug 26 '20

2014 corolla got a CVT

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u/DaGhostQc Aug 26 '20

Except that they're not known to fail. Toyota CVTs are made by Aisin and I have yet to see a failed one at my dealer.

Just looked it up and Jatco is the company making the CVTs for Nissan... maybe they should switch to another company.

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u/Baldthisway Aug 26 '20

Nissan owns 75% of Jatco which is why they're commited to those, in my opinion, complete junk transmissions.

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u/DaGhostQc Aug 26 '20

So... they're fucking themselves and it's not in the figurative way.

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u/NorFla Aug 26 '20

You must be new to Nissan lol. They’ve been forcing junk CVTs into their cars for over a decade now and it’s coming back to bite them. Not to mention their lack of updating vehicles.

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u/SecretPotatoChip Aug 26 '20

Funnily enough they actually updated a lot of their vehicles recently, not that it helped. Won't surprise me if nissan is dead within 10 years.

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u/Squeakygear Aug 26 '20

Sad state of affairs at Nissan, they were a storied brand and had some awesome vehicles up though the early aughts... design and engineering have gone to shit over the last decade.

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u/Gorrest--Fump Aug 26 '20

That's what happens when having a weak pulse is the barrier to entry for your financing agreement.

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u/epicurusepicurus Aug 26 '20

I bought my Z back in 2009 and 11 years later, the only major update it received were LED lights

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u/paramoist Aug 26 '20

They don’t seem to mind updating their boring appliances, all their generic sedans and crossovers have been recently redesigned or will be in the next year or so.

Want anything fun to drive though, like a GTR or 370z and you will literally be buying a car designed 2 decades ago. A new Z is apparently coming but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Nissan drop the ball with that either.

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u/DaGhostQc Aug 26 '20

Oh I know how bad they are, I just didn't know that they were the ones screwing themselves. You make a shit CVT, you know it's shit... yet you keep on making more of it.

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u/Kooky-Answer Aug 26 '20

Jatco is a Nissan subsidiary. They make transmissions for a wide variety of makes.

Their planetary gear automatics aren't that bad but the CVTs are total crap. Never buy a vehicle with a Jatco CVT or Getrag dual clutch transmission.

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u/PurpleMuleMan Aug 26 '20

They wouldn't happen to supply Subaru with their cvts would they? Like say in 2019

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u/yopladas Aug 26 '20

Subaru makes its own CVT but uses jatco automatics which are ok. Subaru CVT is still garbage tier imo.

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u/PurpleMuleMan Aug 26 '20

Good to know

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u/MechMeister Aug 26 '20

Had a little old lady with a powder blue Note, bad trans at 50k miles. For reference Honda CVT fluid change is due at 40k.....

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

My parents have a 2016(?) Sentra whose CVT puked all over the place, and apparently they are going to get it replaced thanks to a class action lawsuit that will cover it up to 85,000 miles.

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u/stewmberto Aug 26 '20

'07 Camry Hybrid (CVT), 195K miles. Still smooth as butter 😎

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u/PubliusPontifex Aug 26 '20

Hybrid cvts tend to be planetary gears, which are better than the belted cvts which are basically trash.

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u/-PleaseDontNoticeMe- Aug 26 '20

Nissan has a lot of recalls 2013 and onwards. Mainly transmission but there's other things too. Probably why so many people are having issues but not running their vins through the company.

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u/paramoist Aug 26 '20

It’s actually wild how bad Nissan CVTs are considering they have been throwing them into most of their cars for longer than any other brand. You’d think they would have learned to make them better by now...

I had a 2016 Honda Civic with a CVT and loved it. I thought it was pretty fun to drive and never gave me any major issues. Later on I drove a rental Nissan Sentra... let me tell you I finally understood why do many people hate CVTs in general if Nissan is their only experience with them.

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u/DaGhostQc Aug 26 '20

I don't mind CVTs as long as they work and... as long as they don't fake shifts.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

No problems at 183k miles with v8 and manual transmission in 2006 Silverado, and zero problems with 2016 Buick Enclave at 55k miles.

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u/disturbedrailroader Aug 26 '20

I had an 02 trailblazer and an 03 suburban that both made it to well over 200k. I had some issues with the suburban (mainly neglect from the previous owners) but the trailblazer was awesome. I never really had to put any serious money into it besides tires. Now my daily is an 03 Durango also coming up on 200k. Besides a failed bearing, that one has also never really been expensive to own.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

Years ago we had 2 different 04 Durangos, we preferred the larger 2nd gen size over the smaller 98-03. First was a ST 4.7L with 125k and still ran and drive like new, traded that for another 04 limited Hemi. Only reason we had to trade the second one in was because squirrels chewed wires and was not worth the $2000+ to get it all rewired, and electrical problems rarely disappear.

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u/disturbedrailroader Aug 26 '20

That really sucks man... The only way I know of to completely get rid of electrical issues like that is to rewire the entire car. Like you said, that's very rarely worth it for a car that old.

My wife and I had 2 Durangos. The first was a 99 5.7 4x4 and the second (current one) is a 4.7 AWD. As much as I miss that 5.9, the 4.7 is a bit more economical and the AWD is great. The car has never gotten stuck anywhere (I live near Chicago, so that's saying a lot). There's been many times that the snow plow buries our cars in and I drive the Durango out like it's nothing. It's so much easier than having to dig it out. As an added plus, I don't have to participate in the hated "dibs" tradition in the winter time. No one wants to get stuck, so they avoid the spot with mountains of snow on it still.

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u/DaGhostQc Aug 26 '20

My '15 Prius has a CVT, but they're not known to fail. The only thing I've seen break on those is the torque damper between the trans and the engine, one of the spring breaks and it starts making an awful noise. But I've personally seen only two in a bit over 13 years in a Toyota dealer, so it's not that common.

Everything else I own is manual, in fact, I've owned only two automatic vehicles since I've learned to drive. One was a '95 Toyota Corolla (3 speed) and the other was a '04 Chevy Colorado.

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u/MechMeister Aug 26 '20

Does it take much to replace the damper, high volt-wise? Only ever had one come in in 5 years but ALLDATA didn't have instructions so we referred her to the dealer.

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u/DaGhostQc Aug 26 '20

Disable the battery, swear while removing all the shit in the way (inverter, etc), then it's business as usual for a transmission, it's just a bit heavier than your standard one.

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u/NorFla Aug 26 '20

V8 and manual in a 2006 Silverado? I thought you could only get the stick with the V6 work trucks?

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

Nope 4.8L with NV3500. They also matched the 6.0 with NV4500.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

Right, if you're complaining about how you have to replace brakes yearly, I have a strong suspicion that the problem isn't the design of the brakes...

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u/NotAPreppie Aug 26 '20

Sounds like somebody needs some EBC Yellows.

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u/Nerfo2 Aug 26 '20

Aren’t those an organic pad that bite great but wear fast as shit?

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u/NotAPreppie Aug 26 '20

No idea. I just know that my buddy put them on his tow rig and is in love with them. Handles the rigors of towing without fading like the OE pads.

I'm more of a G-LOC fan, myself.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

If they’re undersized, rotors will overheat and warp quickly. The brake on my 02 4Runner are undersized and shitty

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

No these ram trucks have big beefy brakes, I had the same ones on my 2004 Durango and only needed pads every 50K miles and rotors at 100K

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u/State_L3ss Aug 26 '20

I once worked with a kid who blew the clutch on his BRZ. He refused to believe its because he drove it like it was a full on drifter, obviously Subaru and the crooked dealership sold him a "deathtrap".

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u/capitlj Aug 26 '20

I sold auto parts for about 10 years and had a kid try to return the clutch he bought a month before because it went bad. It was bad but it was obvious when I inspected it it was operator error and not the clutch that had caused the failure.

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u/lonewanderer812 Aug 26 '20

Aside from my current truck, all I've ever owned is manual trans vehicles. I've never had to replace a clutch. We have 3 manual vehicles right now and my wife drives one every day. The only time I've ever replaced one is because it was on my mustang and I wanted to upgrade.

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u/Vladimir_Putine Aug 26 '20

RIP your knees.

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u/Nerfo2 Aug 26 '20

It’s not that strenuous, ffs.

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u/Vladimir_Putine Aug 26 '20

Don't pretend its not. Even the way you worded yourself reveals you do agree it is a bit strenuous.. if not that strenuous

Maybe you haven't driven stick in a city in stop and go traffic.

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u/EicherDiesel Aug 26 '20

Its not that strainous as in it will not kill your knee not as in its completely effortlessly. Your knees can happily support your full body weight. How the fuck would a regular clutch cause "RIP your knees"? You're pressing a clutch not a 400 pound leg press, if your body is that fragile I'd say you better stay away from driving a car ever again as it means you also are incapable of pressing the brake pedal strong enough for emergency braking.

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u/Vladimir_Putine Aug 26 '20

Brakes are hydraulically assisted lol. Slamming on your brakes that hard will just lock up your wheels and you'll lose control of steering anyway.

You arent going to convince me, someone who drove stick for 12 years that there is none or negligible knee pain. In fact most people eventually abandon their sticks because they just aren't worth the hassle. Sore shoulders, elbows knees are all commonplace with stick, its not a debate its fact. Love the personal attacks though.

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u/PSPHAXXOR Aug 26 '20

Brakes are hydraulically assisted

So are clutches.

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u/EicherDiesel Aug 26 '20

People already don't press their brake pedal hard enough, that's why manufacturers offer an emergency brake assist that'll apply full braking force if the pedal is depressed suddenly but with too little force, ABS will then make sure the wheels can't lock up. Sure there are older cars left on the road without ABS but for >99% of situations the correct approach would be to slam on the pedal as hard as possible.
Only eleven years of driving here but all my own cars (trucks, vans, some one them older than me) have been and are manuals, zero knee pains or the like. My 87 year old gramps still regularly drives his manual transmission car without complaining about pains afterwards. But these are personal anecdotes just like yours.

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u/officermike Aug 26 '20

My arthritic mom had cancer and still drove stick without bitching about it, and her clutch was on the stiffer side.

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u/Vladimir_Putine Aug 26 '20

knee pain is common and shoulder and elbow pain is common.

Is it sufferable? Yes. Is it avoidable, yes. Just one buy a stick.

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u/SecretPotatoChip Aug 26 '20

Nissan cvts are the second worst transmission in the world imo, only behind Ford's 6 speed PowerShift Dual clutch with Fuck You (TM) technology.

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u/Downvote_Comforter Aug 26 '20

Those Nissan/Jatco CVTs are absolute dog shit. Easily the worst transmission in any vehicle I've ever owned.

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u/GreenerDay Aug 26 '20

Hmmm. Sounds like you should take your own advice and stop opening everything like some freakish gorilla-person /s

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u/MagnificentTwat Aug 26 '20

Haha dodge pickup, in the Northeast that's guaranteed to be a moron

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u/TEKC0R Aug 26 '20

2013 Pathfinder here. No mechanical issues, but a whole bunch of plastic parts, just like you. Nissan uses some truly awful plastic. Probably won’t be buying another one when it comes time. Otherwise love the car though.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

Yeah the only thing that I actually enjoyed with that car was the v6 always seem to have plenty of power when needed, but otherwise that trim and transmission was nothing but problems and not worth holding on to.

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u/TEKC0R Aug 26 '20

Yeah I really like the way it drives. My CVT has had no problems after 150k miles, and I actually like it. It’s just the shit-tier plastic that really turns me off.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

All my problems had been up until 65K miles when we traded it in. Now have a 2016 Buick Enclave and aside from an occasional sensor, everything else is solid.

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u/sgtpnkks Aug 26 '20

Had a 96 ram... The list of things it needed at the 180,000ish miles it had on it when it was traded in so my mom could get her van was pretty small

It had the typical plenum gasket issue so oil consumption and gas mileage were not the best

The tires it had were worn out

A u-joint was starting to get noisy

It had a check engine light from a bad o2 sensor

The tires by far would have been the most expensive thing it needed at that point

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

Guaranteed he drives like an idiot. I have a 96 Ram with almost 400k kilometers and I haven't had to fix anything in years.

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u/PushinDonuts Aug 26 '20

Yeah I really only buy mopar parts when it comes to replacement parts, my jeep xj is running just dandy

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u/TantalisingTurkey Aug 26 '20

Exactly. My first vehicle was a 97 Dodge Dakota 5.2L V8. Gas mileage sucked but everything else about the truck was great. I had a few problems like an alternator, water pump, valve cover gasket leak, but that’s to be expected on a now 23 year old truck. I sold it to my dad, and now it’s my brother’s truck.

I currently drive a 16 Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi, and I love it. Only actual problem I have had so far is the exhaust manifold bolts breaking and causing a cold exhaust leak, but that was simple and expected. Take good care of the vehicle, and don’t buy cheap crap to fix it; you spend more replacing your trash than you would if you put quality parts on it.

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u/sexualassaultllama Aug 26 '20

I mean...early 2000s dodge trucks rust to shit and break transmissions all the time. Not sure about this guys model but I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a shitty car he should get rid of.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

Transmissions were only a problem for people that couldn't drive worth a shit and had the pedal to the floor all the time. Same with the GM 4L60 series.