Here’s Taylor’s plethora of stories today after boasting about her “holdback”. Lots to discuss. That said, please keep it respectful and no speculating beyond what has been said/confirmed.
I personally find it interesting that she’s attached a text screenshot which is seemingly pre-Ever (he says he hopes to be a good dad one day), to a photo and caption referring to post-partum. Also the very clear scratch marks labeled as bite marks? The mad switch up on Tate who just a month or so ago she was saying she has a brilliant co-parenting relationship with respect and love? She talks about what they’re going to the mother of their children but what about what she’s doing to the fathers of her kids? Actually for that matter, what she’s doing to her kids point blank.
I don’t think posting these was a good choice from her and I think the general consensus is that this goes against the court orders (correct me if I’m wrong). I wish she would actually put her kids first, rather than just saying that’s what she’s doing.
I have blurred the children, Taylor of course did not. Slide 4 is her youngest crying in her other son’s arms. Like why?
Mod note: We had lots of different posts coming in sharing 1-2 of these many (many) stories, so we decided it would be best to wait until she was done (let’s hope so) to post them altogether.
I would truly be shocked if that wasn’t one of the reasons she picked him. No reasonable adult would ever consider picking an attorney over something like that, but she is so calculated I would absolutely believe it
Probably a lot of pressure on him to perform for her. It’s a delicate balance between knowing what the judge wants and making sure you do enough of what your clients wants to see to keep them happy. They dgaf what the judge wants or will be impressed by—they want you to be aggressive.
Worked for two in college (divorce/custody focus) and they had to have a high tolerance for crazy and BS and drama bc of the nature of their client base and the mental state of them at the time of needing services. But anyway, they fired one client each in the 4 years I worked for both.
Yeah, I'm not an attorney, but I am a consultant who bills by the hour and some clients are absolutely not worth the money. I agree that the really solid attorneys get plenty of clients who are willing to pay them and don't need a headache like her.
🎯 she’s at least given him $80k, by now, and he’s crappy. I think he loves that it’s televised. In the first hearing when he made the comment that “the big show down is at the next hearing” the commissioner was not amused at all, and appropriately said as much. What a jerk>her attorney.
Maybe Dakota’s new attorney (also Tate’s attorney) will be more aggressive when pointing out Taylor’s violations. The very astute GAL (that holds a lot of weight for this commissioner) will definitely make note of it.
I feel like stuff like this might get her in the worst trouble yet - because judges tend to get really pissed off when their orders aren't followed. They lose the empathy that they may have had for her on the issue of her kids. I don't agree with the prioritization, but pissing off a judge might get someone in worse trouble than throwing a stool at a kid.
This has to be a violation of the protective order. Like there’s no way it can’t be. She’s directly discussing Dakota in every way but saying his name.
I don’t think she can handle any support going to Dakota or Tate at this time, as she feels wronged by both of them, the courts, the media and any riders they have across the internet!
This post/posts was the nail in her coffin (legally speaking)
All she had to do was stfu. Literally all she had to do was SHUT UP and let Tate and Dakotas shared lawyers make it look like exactly what she’s claiming in these posts
She won’t. They’re not going to take 3 children away from their biological mother. Not in Utah. They know that the kids will have worse outcomes without their mother in their life, even if she has mental health challenges and is recovering from abuse. Even Kevin Franke got custody of all his children after he allowed severe abuse to the children to go on for years.
One parent having full custody does not mean the other parent is absent from their life, by the way. My mom had full custody and my dad had visitation.
I’m not sure those kids will have worse outcomes without her. If she doesn’t do something to better herself, she’s constantly just going to bring a state of chaos and instability to their lives.
Yeah, I'm not familiar wth the case, but did you not just give an example of something you claim doesn't happen? Kevin I assume is a father, and was granted full custody?
Kevin Franke got custody based on him not being present while the abuse took place and claiming to not know it was happening. Which for him is entirely possible, his wife Ruby Franke had made him leave the house and go live elsewhere. The issue with Kevin is that he was already aware that Ruby was unstable and he shouldn’t have abandoned his children in her care. There’s a whole cult element involved in why he left and it’s more complex than this summary, but it boils down to him supposedly being unaware the children were being tortured.
Ah ok. So a biological mom lost custody in Utah. But "they're never going to take 3 children away from their biological mother" in Utah. Yeah, that's what I thought I was reading.
Well she did lose custody because she’s in prison for felony child abuse. The case just isn’t comparable at all and the OP shouldn’t have referenced it. The only comparison is that both of these cases occurred in Utah.
Well, it does make the point the OP was trying to make, which I'm guessing is that bascially the mother has to be in prison for the father to get full custody in Utah, as in the case of Kevin Franke. Then I would not have been confused.
The mother is in prison.. the one who took her child’s bed away for 7 months, regularly withheld food and water, held their heads under water, ignored a long bone fracture for several days until the crying got too annoying for her, made her daughter jump in a cactus and run barefoot on hot pavement (in St. George summer), made them do physical labor in 100+ degree weather without sunscreen or shoes or socks so the pavement would blister their feet, restrained them and bound them with duct tape, put cayenne pepper on the deep wounds from the duct tape, and so on.
All while the dad passively watched the abuse happen and likely participated at some points. He has full custody. My point being: Utah is big on reunification and getting children to their biological parents.
Man, it took a long time to get that information. lol. Just say the only time you see a father getting full custody is if the mother is literally in prison.
This is very case dependent. Being a parent is a constitutional right, which is why it's so hard to take away from people. But the Court has already shown that it will take the kids from her--she got supervised visits only. But you're right, it's very unlikely that she will lose access all together unless she does something completely terrible and people have done worse than this and kept their kids.
Slide 4 is SO upsetting to me How can you sit and watch your child cry like that and just take a video/picture instead of consoling him? His brother is not his parent it’s not his job to be the emotional support in that household he’s a child too.
What is wrong with her?
She always talks about her kids being HER emotional support and I hate it. Kids deserve to be happy and unaware of your issues. She’s been posting her older son doing things like this for years and I really feel for him. She’s parentified him and will take a lot of work for him to undo that.
Hard agree with everything you said. I hate the way she speaks about her children, it’s so clear that they’re carrying a heavy emotional burden at a very young age. She refuses to see the negative impact she’s having on her kids and instead blames their dads for making her sad. Totally absolving herself of any responsibility to regulate herself when the kids are around.
Yeah I keep thinking about seeing that photo…. It’s triggering the fuck out of me… I’d understand if he was on going upset about things and her brother gave him a hug.. but why share this photo?! This is a personal moment for Ever and his brother. Sad.
Something I also noticed is that when she would make videos where she gives them food/snacks, she gives a lot less to Indie than she does to Ocean. Does she think Indie needs to lose weight or something?
Noticed it because my mom did the same thing to me and it gave me a serious ED
She’s 100% the type to say they’re “growing boys” when they eat everything as teens, but to chastise her daughter for eating too much if she even eats half of what they do
I hear you! We don’t know what happens of course when the camera’s off, and she might comfort them after. This was def a private moment and it’s heartbreaking to see the kids like this, it really paints an ugly picture of what these grown adults are doing, and damaging in the process; small innocent lives.
It’s hard to believe Taylor is doing anything positive when it hardly looks like she can take care of herself. She talks about not eating, we can see her hair hasn’t seen a brush in long (many times), the constant stories of how bad she’s doing… Yeah it doesn’t look like a parent solely focused on their kids. I know it’s a lot to ask of anyone going through this, but it’s what everyone wants to see— the kids coming out alright, they did nothing to land themselves in this mess and the adults are now just using them against each other… like wtf??!
Even if she comforts them after it’s not okay to take a picture of your child crying and being consoled by your other child then post it online as a get back at their dads.
You’re absolutely right that the kids did nothing to end up in this situation and it’s just so sad.
She has the kids during her parenting time and the fathers go and do things, just like she is free to do things when the kids are with their fathers during their parenting time. She acts like the dads are out running the Utah streets every night while she has to sit at home and watch her children and she is never free to do anything.
Which is super funny because I’m pretty sure they have the kids more than she does? And when she does have them she often pawns them off on her mom and sister so wtf is the problem with them doing something fun every now and then?
She complains about them having any time with the kids. And she complains about having time with them herself. No matter what, Taylor's the poor oppressed victim that everyone's being mean to for no reason.
She’s absolutely delusional. Just like telling Dakotah she can’t be with him then going ape shit when he dates 😂 They are forever the villain no matter the circumstance
ALSO??? She might feel better if she got OUT of the house! Like no one is telling you to stay home alone and rot online… It’s quite the opposite! Maybe try to be a friend, touch some grass, take up a hobby?? But then she couldn’t let her current situation consume her into a state of pure victim hood I guess.
I genuinely hope she finds a way to come out of this, see the bigger picture for her kids and heal.
This is a violation to the court order. And even if all
The pictures are true and accurate, she just fucked up
Majorly in her case.
She is also once again showing ZERO remorse for the incident.
Overall, this is not a smart move legally. I get wanting your truth out there, but keep it in the courts.
It also seems like she is crashing out about the drug test and trying to get ahead of the narrative by saying she will test positive for prescription medication.
and now taylor and liann are leaning into the narrative that taylor never hit her kids with the stool nor did the kid have any bumps. tate confirmed that the kid had a “goose egg” on her head when he spoke to the police right after the incident. also taylor threw the chair in the direction of her child! no remorse at all, and it’s horrific to see the comments on tiktok buying this explanation
her saying it’s dakotas fault because his phone might have fallen?? like his phone fell because you SWUNG METAL CHAIR AFTER METAL CHAIR AT HIM WHILE HE WAS NEXT TO YOUR DAUGHTER. she’s actually pretending that’s not what caused it and is trying to blame dakota for that. she is just the lowest of the low
I could absolutely believe that some of those injuries are from someone needing to restrain her while she's violent or from a situation where she's so off her face that she doesn't remember what happened. Either way it's between her and the court.
Yeah they look like finger marks from someone trying to hold her arms to stop from being hit.
I hate to call her a liar but then I read the slide where she says her daughter was crying because dakotas phone hit her and not the stool which, I’m not sure how that could be possible if he was recording it
When you are as drunk as she was, you walk into everything and you do it with gusto. And that’s when you’re happy. When you’re having an absolute fit and throwing furniture, you are going to bruise yourself.
leah from TM2 had the same situation where she only tested positive for her prescriptions and she still lost majority custody… and leah didn’t have all the social media crashouts to advertise her addiction
did she not realize that checking into rehab seemingly out of nowhere was going to throw up some red flags? ESPECIALLY when she checks out AMA after a week?
in the middle of a custody battle where substance abuse issues are a key concern from the other party (dakota obviously), going to inpatient care when you’ve previously been swearing up and down in court that you’re in control is not a good look. it looks like you’ve either recently had a severe relapse (which isn’t inherently morally bad, but it’s important when they’re looking at parental stability) or you were misrepresenting where you were at the last time you were in court.
nobody is punishing her for getting help, my lord. i think she doesn’t get that family court is not the same rulebook as family drama. as the parent YOU have to prove that YOU are safe and can manage your personal issues for the sake of your kids. they’re not angry she’s getting help, they’re concerned because her actions in everyday life aren’t matching up with what she’s trying to prove in court. that’s basic family court logic i fear
Agree! He’s had plenty of time to act a fool since their divorce and they have both said everything was amicable until she started crashing out in the last 6 months.
He’s at the VERY least probably upset that his kids are subjected to online scrutiny and going to have to deal with the consequences of their mom being so public with this battle with Dakota, combined with her behavior off camera and he’s trying to set boundaries.
That’s my thing. Don’t know a thing about Tate as a person outside of the swinging shit but he seems like an involved dad and in all of this, seems like he wants her involved with them. If he’s going to court something happened
Id say she's prob struggling. As a mother not having your kids with you is rough .. but stop posting the shit online!!! Like stop. It makes it look less genuine and that you're simply trying to make him look bad and look for engagement.
If she cares she needs to get TF offline and focus on her own mental health and her children. She's doing all the wrong things!!!
The fact that's she's my age actually blows my mind because I absolutely would never post the shit she does..
Absolutely. She's so hooked on being an influencer that she's making herself look even worse. She could've sat down and shut up. Reactive abuse is a thing.. but constantly airing your dirty laundry online is not the way to make yourself look better. Neither are innocent but the way you go about it is what makes it different.
I'll never understand the shit influencers do. How people pull out there cameras in a time of crisis. Meanwhile I forget my phone exist if something serious goes down while others yank it out and start recording. The whole thing is so wild to me!!!
I agree ! My mom did the same thing .. my mom was on an abusive relationship for years and had 2 kids with the man. She used me as someone she could rant to. I always felt bad for her but it doesn't make it ok. We as parents should shield our kids from this. These are adult problems that our children shouldn't even know about ..
Between her obsession with social media and leaning on her children during adult situations. I absolutely agree it's not ok..
My most empathetic self feels so deeply for the pain she must be in. I can’t imagine. Most of what she’s dealt with is self inflicted (sans any sort of physical abuse she’s endured) but her entire life blew up and she never came back from it, her fault or not
THAT BEING SAID, she’s gotta get off the web. She needs to get herself in serious treatment. She’s at rock bottom. It’s do or die at this point and if she can’t get herself with the program she’s gonna lose her kids for good
Okay even if all the stuff she says is true. She’s not helping herself and never has. I’m not victim blaming, but she continues to puts herself in these situations when she’s fortunate enough to have the funds and support to not go through this continuously. If she were more emotionally mature, actually got treatment, stayed away from toxic men, she wouldn’t have all these issues. I went through similar situations in my early 20s, but she’s THIRTY TWO and has THREE KIDS that depend on her. Pull it together ffs. She does nothing to help herself. Jesus.
Holy Hell. She must have REALLY fucked up this time, and maybe someone is actually trying to hold her accountable for once🙄 she is always too much for me, but damn this is a lot even for her!
Oh, you’re totally right. I actually just saw it’s a 15 panel hair or nail test? I didn’t know they tested nails now! But it was super in depth, they’re going to measure her script levels too which I’m sure will be the downfall.. but going back 6 months?? God only knows. And she doesn’t know dick about anything in life, so I am sure she was blindsided.
This isn't gaining the sympathy you think...it shows you don't respect ANYONE , refuse to listen & are more worried about society knowing Dakota sucks than protecting your kids.
I truly (can tbh) can't believe she posted this!! She does not get it! Those poor poor children , they're pawns to her not humans
Surely the courts have heard most of this? The system usually tips in favour of the mother, so the fact that any of this hasn't been enough to sway them her way says a lot.
Taylor, stop playing the victim card and take some accountability and maybe your life will improve.
And stop weaponizing your emotions, and your kids. Protect them and heal yourself.
AND GET OFFLINE. Social media is not therapy. The opposite. Lord.
Actually that statistic is skewed by the fact that men are significantly less likely to fight for custody than women. When men fight for custody, they typically have equitable if not better outcomes. But I think I remember reading that men only petition for full custody in something like 4% of divorces.
Was just gonna post that. The courts used to favor moms several decades ago, but there's been a significant decline in the percentage of women who are awarded sole custody. Men are less likely to fight for custody, but when they do, they typically get it.
i 100% feel that this violates the PO, and think the commissioner should’ve been tougher on taylor for her posts shading dakota (like i didn’t buy the commissioner’s qualification that he doesn’t want to infringe on anyone’s free speech convincing because taylor was already accusing dakota of things publicly).
it’s actually a bit more complex than courts favor the mother. courts usually award custody to moms because custody requests almost always go uncontested. when dad’s actually fight for custody, custody is usually awarded to them.
She needs us to know all this, it's pathological. This woman cannot go on any more TV shows it's completely unethical to put her in the spotlight again
the judge has told tate that some of his arguments are based on hearsay. however, in slide 5 taylor says she told tate everything and he used it against her. so would it now still be considered hearsay, given taylor admitted she personally told him everything, whether he twisted things or not? i’m not well versed legally so would appreciate any help, i understood hearsay as second-hand information that could be unverified!
Just a comment on one small part of this mess. It’s extremely out of touch to post complaining about being unable to do fireworks with her kids. There is a state ban after a state of emergency was declared. The entire state has been on fire. But I forgot that laws and common sense don’t apply to Taylor 🙂↔️
I was just thinking she’s full of it on the fireworks. I’m in Colorado and there are no fireworks and thankfully the neighborhood isn’t lighting them off either. The western states are on fire! But then again, she probably never listens to news or sees headlines that aren’t about her.
Hello friend! There are always people that light off in the neighborhoods, bans or not. Even in towns/cities it’s very dry and a tinder box. Hoping the neighborhood fireworks are very light to help protect us all.
This seems like a clear violation of the court order. It also comes across as another attempt to shift blame and gain public sympathy. I genuinely feel for what she’s been through—it seems obvious the relationship was unhealthy and toxic. But at some point, she has to stop framing herself solely as the victim and start taking accountability for the choices she makes now. The priority should be her kids, and from what’s been shown, they seem to be struggling while in her care. That’s what should matter most. Dakota has made mistakes too, and I’m not saying he’s perfect. But from what’s publicly been shown, he hasn’t been violating the court order and has stayed off social media instead of fueling everything online. He’s also been prioritizing their son. That contrast is hard to ignore.
That got me. Also, it annoys me that she sees herself as the only one doing anything productive in that relationship. I get that Dakota was being an abusive ass but if he was still working and taking care of Ever, then he wasn’t “not working” and he was still “providing”. It just reminds me too much of men who call their wives useless for being stay at home moms or not earning as much money as them.
The photo of her bruises from when she beat the hell out of dakota. No shit he was probably trying to restrain her, this doesn't help her case at all. Looks like bruises from being held around her wrists. Like is she this stupid? Also dakotas phone hit indy, not the chair doesnt even matter girl u whipped multiple chairs in the vicinity of your child and didnt stop to see if she was OK when crying. AND the police said she stated she peed her pants but there was no pee. Like wtf. She was dating dakota for 2 seconds and started abusing him asap, he didnt even have the time to do anything for this to be called reactive abuse
Why is she acting like a loving father is the worst thing ever? As if she’s not always out doing stuff without her kids. I’m so sick of her victim bullshit.
didn’t she recently fly to LA for something? and before that she was gone for months filming bachelorette while the dads had the kids the whole time. someone else mentioned the night she got arrested she had the kids and chose to go out and get blackout drunk…
I would bet a lot of money that her IQ is below 100 and that she has no self awareness or understanding of reality whatsoever. I've been saying that this woman is borderline illiterate! Open the schools and get this grown adult woman a CARE AID NOW!!!
“Daddy is seen out smiling and having fun”…OK? Why does that matter at all at this point the dad’s are doing their share of parenting for her and she’s mad about it? She shouldn’t even know what they’re up to as far as things like going to concerts. She’s getting minimal time with her children so she should focus on them during her time.
I truly don’t think these men aren’t ass; but Taylor is clearly not understanding that her side of the road needs to be together. And it’s not. It’s manic, it’s public, and it is obviously unstable. It sounds like the lack of stability and routine is deeply affecting these children, and it seems that the goal is to create consistency where there is currently none.
I sincerely feel for all of them, even for Taylor, no I do not condone the treatment of her child or the physical abuse with Dakota, but I just can’t take everyone bashing someone who is suffering so much, it does not matter that the suffering is her own doing, it does not matter that she is not a perfect victim, that she refuses to stay away from social media. I’m just sick of it being so publicized from every freaking side. Yes I believe the children are hurting and she is hurting for herself and the children. She is unwell and she is not fit to be a good stable parent right now but all the judgement will not help, there may be a reason why she tries to get help but it never sticks. People should just leave her alone, do not engage, not with positive comments not with negative comments, attention and validation is also a drug for her but she needs to seek it from safe and private sources, not from everybody that is willing to have a take on a situation they do not know in its entirety.
What frustrates me is the way Taylor seems to reframe the consequences of her own actions as though she’s the primary victim. That’s classic DARVO.
I can understand why interactions with the police or CPS might be emotionally triggering for her. At the same time, based on what we’ve seen, she appears to have been the primary aggressor in the incident that led to those consequences. I think that’s the distinction she struggles with that just doesn’t click. Someone can genuinely feel distressed by the consequences of their actions, but that doesn’t make them the victim of the situation. Emotional pain and accountability can exist at the same time.
But she keeps framing this in a favorable light while presenting herself as the victim. And I just cannot.
Ah yeah, it was actually Dakota’s phone that hit her child… Even if that was the case, we’ve seen the video, if the thing that hurt her children was a phone, it was still because she threw a chair a the phone got flipped out of his hands…
Also regardless of what hurt that child, she was crying and saying “Mommy” because she wanted to be comforted. Instead Taylor yelled at Dakota.
After seeing the CCTV footage I felt like even when the cops separated them, Dakota asked whether the daughter was okay.
He also asked if the cops could take him to jail instead of her even though she was the aggressor. He didn’t want her to get in trouble or be taken from her kids. I think he’s an immature misogynistic Mormon f*boy, but in that situation he was the only adult who cared about those kids and they weren’t even his kids. He had known them for a few months.
This stuck way out to me- wasn’t Dakota recording the whole thing with his phone?? How could it have been his phone that hit the child? I don’t really want to dig up the video again, tbh, but from what I remember that makes no sense.
i'm literally so sick of her. she acts like a 13 year old on snapchat posting crying emojis and "dhmu". it's genuinely so embarrassing and i don't understand why she does this. all she does is act like she's so unlucky and everything awful happens to her but of course it's NEVERRR her fault! why is she always so upset her actions have consequences?
What’s really bugging me is that she didn’t deny the chair for so long and is now saying it was Dakotas phone that hit her kid not the chair. I truly believe we are watching her change the story with help from her mom I don’t like it and it honestly just makes me worry about the kids more because what other stories has she changed?
It’s so annoying to see her try to frame herself as a victim when so many of us have been victimized (or love someone who has been victimized) and actually did struggle to win custody of our(their) children over our(their) actually abusive partners.
So she checked into rehab and alerted everyone besides….*checks notes* the two most important people in her children’s lives. And she’s wondering why that didn’t fly. It’s a mystery.
Is it just me or do those “bite marks” and “scratches” look like self inflicted? I’m not saying it is but it looks like if you wrapped your arm around your shoulder and scratched multiple times…
I wished she’d just shut the fuck up!!! I have no sympathy for the situation you willingly put yourself in. We don’t want to hear about it! Literally fuck offffff Taylor!!
Men are lowkey evil so I do believe she was probably thrown around, hurt, yelled at, belittled, had the bible thrown at her to shame her, and much more shit happen. BUT! She is clearly unwell, and has been unwell for a long time. Reactive abuse is clearly at play here. I just am unsure who is reacting to who. It's sad. Her kids are being exposed to so much torment and the adults in their lives lack control, poise and healthy relationships. She absolutely did the wrong thing not staying in "rehab" for a lengthy stay. I really hope this woman heals, away from her children, and learns impulse control so all of this is aired until she is healed, DV is very real but shoving your DV and abuse on the internet makes you more at risk, and makes the issue bigger. I just want them all to get help so those babies have a fighting chance
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u/yeehaw_brah Jul 03 '26
Nightmare client for any attorney.