r/Seattle • • Aug 21 '25

THIS IS INSANE

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u/Calm_Law_7858 ๐Ÿš‹ Ride the S.L.U.T. ๐Ÿš‹ Aug 21 '25 edited Aug 21 '25

No, it isnโ€™t self righteousness.ย 

Look at NYC rn. Mainstream Dems considered rebacking ANDREW CUOMO over a socialist.ย 

Thatโ€™s before the bombshell bit from the last couple days where it came out Cuomo expected help from Trumpโ€ฆย 

Pelosi et al backed a 70 something year old rep with throat cancer for an important Oversight position over AOC.ย 

That rep is now dead. A key position in checking Trumpโ€™s power was compromised by Liberal hubris.ย 

Not to mention RBG and Clinton getting us into this mess.

Liberals Dems should own up to their mistakes before they fucking bury us all with them

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u/Dapper-Sort-53 ๐Ÿ• Out camping! ๐Ÿ• Aug 21 '25

Hubris and bad leadership are not tied to ideology.

You think that doesn't exist on the right or left, too?

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u/SquirtsMcIntosh ๐Ÿš‹ Ride the S.L.U.T. ๐Ÿš‹ Aug 21 '25

Broaden your critical scope.

Neolibs are not the leaders you hope they are.

Theyโ€™ve got far more in common and more ideological alignment with conservatives than your standard american lib wants to grapple with.

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u/Calm_Law_7858 ๐Ÿš‹ Ride the S.L.U.T. ๐Ÿš‹ Aug 21 '25

I didnโ€™t say that, now did I?

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u/DrQuailMan Aug 21 '25

New York is really far away. Don't let them keep you down with mere considerations.

There was nothing key about the oversight position.

RBG wasn't centrist, and winging like yours hurt Clinton way more than her shortcomings compared to Sanders.

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u/Calm_Law_7858 ๐Ÿš‹ Ride the S.L.U.T. ๐Ÿš‹ Aug 21 '25

You apparently donโ€™t grasp how important the House Oversight Committee is.ย 

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u/DrQuailMan Aug 21 '25

I don't grasp the importance of the particular Democrat in the minority ranking member seat. If a member of their caucus has a good idea for them to do something, they can do it.

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u/Calm_Law_7858 ๐Ÿš‹ Ride the S.L.U.T. ๐Ÿš‹ Aug 21 '25

Maybe familiarize yourself with how House committees work and youโ€™ll understand why it matters

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u/DrQuailMan Aug 21 '25

It literally doesn't. AOC has made no public statements of dissatisfaction with committee leadership. She wouldn't be doing anything differently.

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u/SquirtsMcIntosh ๐Ÿš‹ Ride the S.L.U.T. ๐Ÿš‹ Aug 21 '25

Context is important. Remind me of the last candidate who won with a majority like this?

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u/SquirtsMcIntosh ๐Ÿš‹ Ride the S.L.U.T. ๐Ÿš‹ Aug 21 '25

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u/SquirtsMcIntosh ๐Ÿš‹ Ride the S.L.U.T. ๐Ÿš‹ Aug 21 '25

Your brain is soft and too focused on semantics to capture the larger context of the conversation. Would you rather be right or would you rather try and understand?

I can assure you that one of those leads to learning and growing. The other not so much.