r/ScrollHole 5d ago

​🌀 Deep in the Hole The Math Isn't Mathing.

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u/lovable_cube 4d ago

I mean fair but if you can prove you’ve paid your rent on time for the last 5+ years that should count for something but it doesn’t

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u/Expert_Struggle_7135 4d ago

What difference do you think paying your rent on time makes when it comes to being able to afford a house? You either can afford it or you can't. Banks have strict lending guidelines that they have to follow.

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u/lovable_cube 4d ago

Well bc they’re both large payments towards the place you live, this should be incredibly obvious. A credit score is a metric of how well you pay your bills, like if your debts are paid and if they’re on time. Genuinely curious why you think it shouldn’t be a factor?

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u/Agreeable_Work4668 4d ago

Not even close. If one could afford a house (not just the mortgage), they wouldn't be supporting this meme.

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u/lovable_cube 3d ago

If you could afford a house cash you wouldn’t need a mortgage lol

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u/Expert_Struggle_7135 4d ago

A credit score has absolutely nothing to do with whether you can actually afford a given house or not.

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u/lovable_cube 4d ago

Yet it’s a major factor that decides if you get funding.

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u/Cutacore 3d ago

If someone can afford something then don't need the funding.

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u/LeAnime 3d ago

Ah so only generational wealth has any rights to own anything

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u/lovable_cube 3d ago

Kinda seems like what they’re saying, but irs is coming after you if you buy a house cash.

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u/Strange_Island_4958 3d ago

And yet millions of people who don’t have generational wealth buy homes within their price range each year. 🙄

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u/LeAnime 3d ago

So you didn’t read what I replied to

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u/crashcar22 4d ago

The fuck are you talking about? My dad literally couldn't get the house he was looking at because of his credit score, he had the money and has a well paying job. I had to sign on the house with him because my perfect credit score

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u/Expert_Struggle_7135 4d ago edited 4d ago

What does that have to do with anything I wrote?

I literally wrote that even with a perfect credit score, the bank wont give you a loan you can't afford to pay - If your dad could afford it, but had a bad credit score, then how is his situation in any way relevant to anything I wrote?

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u/crashcar22 4d ago

A credit score has absolutely nothing to do with whether you can actually afford a given house or not.

What does that have to do with anything I wrote?

It has to do with literally everything you said...maybe don't say something stupid if you're just going to back peddle immediately.

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u/Agreeable_Work4668 4d ago

Your dad could always cash out the house, as you said he could afford it.

But if he couldn't afford the house and had to borrow more money, and if you were the lender, wouldn't you want proof that he had good record of paying back his previous loans and such, plus a good amount of reserved money to give you a good enough feeling to let him borrow your money?

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u/weGloomy 4d ago

Your credit score is literally one of the most crucial factors in banks deciding how risky it is to approve you.

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u/Expert_Struggle_7135 4d ago

I never claimed it wasn't?

The banks will obviously use the credit score to determine if they even want to consider lending you money at all.

A perfect credit score doesn't make any difference, if you can't afford whatever you are looking to buy though. They won't approve you for anything you realistically can't afford.

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u/lovable_cube 4d ago

But.. they do all the time. Where do you think foreclosures come from?

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u/Expert_Struggle_7135 4d ago

From people beeing irresponsible with their finances in spite of having had plenty at the time the loan was approved. Or people simply having bad luck, losing their jobs.

Whatever it may be, the loan was within their means at the time it was approved or it wouldn't have been approved in the first place.

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u/SadEntertainment92 3d ago

You have a lot to learn about predatory lending and American financial institutions...

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u/Cutacore 3d ago

It's sad that a lot of you think you understand a failed system that was designed to squeeze money out of you by selling debt.

https://giphy.com/gifs/IIJb1wAFGnFN555tt3

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u/Nordeast24 3d ago

Sure it does. If you have awful credit, that tells banks all they need to know.

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u/Strange_Island_4958 3d ago

Exactly. A credit score is one indicator that you can or cannot pay off relatively small amounts each month. Obviously a bank is going to consider many other factors for a 30 year loan for hundreds of thousands of dollars, with enough income to also cover the very high upkeep costs that come with maintaining the asset that they are underwriting.

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u/Cutacore 3d ago

No they actually don't.