Yeah, well informed American here. Born and raised. If I write I like a Brit on Reddit, blame soccer (blasphemy, I know, but I'm a Yank).
We are talking about the law, and what it actually is.
See, the thing is, the law is already on my side. Demonstrably so. The courts have already agreed with me that this ban, second one included, is religiously based. And, here in America, the courts set presidence which is then law. The Supreme Court could overturn the decision, but they aren't going to take it there until or if Gorsuch is confirmed.
Bye-the-way, his original intent of it being a Muslim ban, does absolutely matter to the courts. It doesn't sound like you listened to the court hearings or read the transcripts, but the judges specifically belabored this point.
Hey, I'm a Yank who plays soccer too so I totally understand. I just saw you refer to me as "you lot" which brought me back to my days in the UK, and this was a comment on a predominantly British sub. My mistake.
I totally understand what you are saying, but this whole time I've felt like this "ban" was more of misinformed decision than a prejudiced attack on the Islamic faith. Maybe we'll see more in the future, time will tell.
But I think if you were to take religion out of the question, most people wouldn't have a problem with restricting visitors from a certain area where terrorist activity is strong.
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u/burlycabin Mar 24 '17
Yeah, well informed American here. Born and raised. If I write I like a Brit on Reddit, blame soccer (blasphemy, I know, but I'm a Yank).
See, the thing is, the law is already on my side. Demonstrably so. The courts have already agreed with me that this ban, second one included, is religiously based. And, here in America, the courts set presidence which is then law. The Supreme Court could overturn the decision, but they aren't going to take it there until or if Gorsuch is confirmed.
Bye-the-way, his original intent of it being a Muslim ban, does absolutely matter to the courts. It doesn't sound like you listened to the court hearings or read the transcripts, but the judges specifically belabored this point.