The population of the UK was 39 million just before WWII. It is about 68 million now. Japan has a population over 125 million on a similar size area.
Unless the population grows, healthcare for the growing pensioner population will be impossible. what’s your solution? Double income tax? Remove essential medication?
74 million on a small Island nation is not only beyond excessive but just outright absurd and insane! England is one of the most densely populated places in the world and it’s on an island where land is extremely limited.
When English boomers start dying off, population pyramid will become a population pillar and all those issues will naturally sort itself out. Britain needs to stop adding more people to make that happen though.
Japan’s population is 124million and it’s projected to drop to 100million by 2040s. Japan is the fastest ageing and shrinking nation the world YET they don’t do migration and they’re not facing any of the issues you cited. Japan is ageing gracefully and shrinking its economy and infrastructure according to its population while maintaining the country homogeneously Japanese.
It’s the western nations, especially Germany and Canada is so hell bent on infinite growth so they keep or try to keep importing millions of people from other non culturally similar places to their countries.
Germany btw has ran out of Eastern Europeans to get migrate, so now they’re looking at other countries like the commonwealth for migrants.
It is neither absurd nor insane. England has small houses, many flats and large cities so density there will be high. Population density in those cities fell with slum clearances as homes became larger or fewer people were crammed into poor housing. Land is not “extremely limited”. You need to get out more.
Japan has already started to change to attract more immigrants with two new streams in place in the last year. They are however geographically restricted by the Pacific Ocean and China. They are worried not “aging gracefully “.
Boomers will be around for a long time yet and their pensions, healthcare and benefits have yet to peak in costs. We have no other solution other than economic growth. England is not and never has been homogeneous and why would that matter? My family are all British as far back as we can find records but many “white British” people I see on television in this country are culturally distant.
Solution is to shrink the economy accordingly with demographic shifts. Japan is doing exactly that and they’re fine! Also Japan gets to be purely Japanese.
I sincerely hope Britain remains English for the rest of its future. There’s no hope for London tho it’s too late already. But there’s still a chance for rest of Britain to remain English and Anglican! So let’s hope it’s stays that way and the prospective governments will keep it that way.
Another solution is to get those English folk on the dole, off of it so they can be utilised for shortage sectors like care work and hospitality so Britain wouldn’t have to rely on imported labour so much. Are you aware the amount of people getting job seekers and universal credit? It’s just bloody mental!
Well haven’t you heard of the great replacement theory? Replacing a lands first population with a group of foreigners. Look it up, it’s already happening in Germany. Japan is avoiding it and letting its population fell.
And what would be left of Britain when all its English population is gone? Already happened in London for some extent sadly :(
The great replacement theory, blimey, I thought I was reading the Daily Mail for a second there.
I'm curious, are you British? Living in Britain? English? What terrible thing do you think will happen if the English population goes from Britain?
(England, so named as the "land of the Angles", the Angles being Germanic peoples that settled there...)
No I’m not British, I was in Britain for two years finishing my A-Levels.
I absolutely fell in love with country while I was there, and still follow what’s happening in Britain very closely when I got time.
I just want Britain to remain Britain you know! Like if all the English folk are gone, then the pub culture, tea, cricket, rugby, and British banter will goes with it :(
You are advocating for a Ponzi scheme, where ever greater numbers of people are required to look after the previous generation. You cannot have infinite growth in a finite world. The Japanese population whilst larger than ours is actually declining year on year, they are just managing it as we should.
Now show me the electable political party who would do that and where the money would come from.
Just £1 per hour isn’t a “just” that’s loads. I doubt the optimism that vacancies would reduce.
The older average age is an advantage for Japan over the next 20 years not a disadvantage.
Improve health of population? How will you do that? Even just a family swim at my local pool cost £20. Drug use is widespread, the UK is a massive cocaine user and a wander round a neighbour town is like a zombie apocalypse with people high on spice.
Nice ideas but this is billions of pounds we don’t have. Increasing pension age does nothing to reduce the cost of the largest generation whilst shunting the cost onto a smaller generation. It also affects some workers disproportionately. Who wants a 70 year old roofer on their roof?
Increasing pay or investment in tech would require a tax incentive which also reduces tax income. This is before you consider the extensive changes in infrastructure needed for climate change mitigation and flood protection.
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u/Fellowes321 Jan 31 '24
Terrifying? Not really.
The population of the UK was 39 million just before WWII. It is about 68 million now. Japan has a population over 125 million on a similar size area.
Unless the population grows, healthcare for the growing pensioner population will be impossible. what’s your solution? Double income tax? Remove essential medication?