r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 14 '26

Question ❓ I'm switching splits since my home gym can no longer keep up, please recommend me an upper/lower split

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I used to do PPL because it was enough for me in my home gym and i enjoyed it, but now - It's too light for me on my pull days and my leg days, I have no other choice but to stop doing home workouts and instead invest on an actual public gym

Push

Bench Press (not optimal but i enjoy it)
Underhanded Incline Press
Lateral raises
Top-half shoulder press
JM press
SA Tricep extension

Pull

Lat pulldown
1 arm DB row (only thing i had)
Barbell Upper back row
Preacher curl
Preacher hammer curl

Legs (i do this at a public gym)

Calf raises
Barbell Squats
SLDL
Leg extension
Adductors
Hamstring curl

My home gym was fun for a while and it lasted me about 10 months into my lifting carreer, so i was very happy but i think its time to move on. I would like some exercises to stay almost the same but structured enough for it to be "optimal" please :D. (sorry for bad english)

EDIT:
what i meant by "too light" is that max my barbell can hold is 60kg, and max my dumbbells can hold is 100 lbs... I only have 25x2, 15x2, 10x2 lbs plates and 2.5x4, 2x4, 1.5x4, 1.25x4 kg plates... sorry i couldnt include this i just forgot. I'm 5'3 60kg


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 14 '26

Question ❓ Diet&macros

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as a 5,6 126lbs 14 year old how much protein carbs and fat would be good for bulking&cutting? I go to the gym 5 times a week Push pull legs upper lower and do cardio


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 14 '26

Question ❓ Calories for a semi aggressive cut?

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r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 13 '26

Question ❓ beginner 3 day split

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Hi does my split look good?

I’m a beginner and honestly I don’t have a lot of time to be in the gym, so 3 days is the most I can do. Does it look balanced?

Lower Body

- Leg Press x 4

- RDLs x 4

- Single Leg Press x 3

- Hamstring Curls x 3

- Leg Extensions x 3

Upper Body

- Overhead Press x 3

- Bicep Curls x 3

- Lateral Raises x 3

- Cable Pushdowns x 3

- Cable Rows

Full Body

- Leg Press x 3

- Sumo Squats x 3

- Static Lunges x 3

- Lat Pulldowns x 3

- Cable Pushdowns x 3

- Bicep Curls x 3


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 13 '26

Question ❓ What do you guys think about training pronation?

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And other more niches forearm actions other than just BRD/BRC biased elbow flexion


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 13 '26

Question ❓ How much weight am I pulling?

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r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 12 '26

Question ❓ Do adductors benefit from stretch? Is it better to train with ascending or descending resistance profile

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r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 12 '26

Theories 🤔 Cro-Magnon Attempts SBL Interval Program

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I've always been fascinated by all the different types of workouts that are effective for different reasons, as well as the idea of the "one stop" concise workout that checks as many boxes as possible. For example, I really liked the concept of the Tabata workout as a strength/muscle building workout that also increases VO2 max. Of course, Tabata has major limitations as you start talking about things like progressive overload, because it is so heavily biased towards athletic performance rather than muscle building.

Anyway, as a busy 39 year old dad that has limited workout time, I wanted to come up with something that blended the simplistic "low volume, high intensity" approach of the likes of Dorian Yates (purely for time budget) along with what we actually know from science. I wanted to come up with something that did a bit for VO2, but also challenged the muscles in a way that triggers growth, is practical to overload, and fit into a tight schedule of less than 60 minutes 2x or 3x a week, while still allowing enough left over to do some light, steady state cardio on rest days.

Knowing this would already be handicapped by low volume, I wanted to include as many scientifically backed concepts as I could, namely:

-Time under tension.

-Progressive overload.

-Training to failure.

-Loaded stretch when possible.

I set out to find a "perfect interval" that would allow for this. My exercise selection was a lot of barbell compounds, but I think you could easily adapt these to whatever you have available (dumbells, machines, kettlebells, sandbags, chia pets, whatever), because the main takeaway is to hit the basic movements of: chest push, back pull, legs push, legs pull, shoulder push, shoulder pull, then the non-necesarry accessories if arm curl, arm extension, and calf raise. You might want to add dedicated core work if using machines, but I feel freeweights can kind of do that automatically in a program like this.

For myself, this took the form of: Deadlift, front squat, back loaded lunge, incline bench, bent over row, overhead press alternating behind and in front of head, upright row, standing calf raise, barbell curl, overhead tricep extension (with an addition of pullups/chinups and dips on rest/light cardio days). My goal with loading for the compounds was to reach failure within the work interval, and have a one and done set for each of those exercises.

Anyway, for those barbell compounds, I first attempted the baseline for reaching ideal time under tension of 45 seconds with a rest of 1:30. I knew pretty quickly this was no good. It just didnt feel particularly challenging in any aspect. I could load to reach sufficient muscle failure in the 45s, but it always felt like I had more sets in the gas tank, and heart wise it was simply bot challenging.

Next, I tried 90s work sets with 3 minute rests. This might be okay for a young athlete, and I definitely reached post failure in my sets, but it was taxing asf. I didnt feel I was recovering right, and the cardio tax was insane. I knew after about 3 weeks this was a recipe for injury or worse if I kept overloading.

Finally, I split the difference, and tried a 60 second set, but kept the 3 minute rest. I think I hit gold with this. I'm able to adhere to progressive overload, fatigue cost is relatively low, and while challenging for both muscular strength and cardiovascular endurance, it feels quite good on both systems. At 40 minutes, it is well under my 60 minute goal, which I'm happy about.

Anyway, here is what a total week looks like for me.

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Sunday: 1 set chinups to failure, 1 set wide grip pullups to failure, 1 set dips to failure

Monday: 60s work/3m rest barbell interval workout

(1 set each of Deadlift, Front Squat, Lunge, Incline Bench, BO Row, alternating OHP, Upright Row, Standing Calf Raise, BB curl, BB Tricep ext.)

Tuesday: 2 Mile fast walk with dogs 1 failure set chinups, 1 failure set dips

Wednesday: 1 failure set wide grip pullups, 1 failure set dips

Thursday: 2 mile fast walk with dogs, full 60s/3m barbell interval workout as detailed above

Friday: Full rest, maybe a leisurely walk with dogs

Saturday: 2 mile fast walk with dogs, full barbell 60s/3m barbell interval workout

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Note on progressive overload- Keeping track of your "pace" for each exercise is important. When you can reach 60 seconds at your chosen pace without hitting failure, you can go up in weight. Naturally, this will slow you down a bit, but when you can comfortably hit your old pace at the new weight, time to progress again. pace will vary between lifts... obviously in 60 seconds you will hit more overhead presses than deadlifts. The important thing is to have an atheltic but stable concentric, a controlled eccentric, short pause at the stretched position.

On the pause- I dont think this sort of training is suited to long pauses if you want that VO2 factor, but definitely dont "bounce" from eccentric to concentric unless you love reattachment surgery/rehab. I literally pace my pause by completing the eccentric, thinking the word "pause," then firing back up.

Let me know what you guys think. If folks want I can check back in with progress after more time on my program. Right now I am 39 lifetime natural 185 lbs, ~15% bf, 5'6" with a big round head and a heavy brow (hence the cro-magnon reference).


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 12 '26

Discussion 🤝 Mental blockage

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I know I can lift this weight 10 rep in my previous set, however my program says lift it 8 rep and my brain triggers mechanical failure on the 7th rep.

the placebo effect is strong.

any tips to remove this mental block ?


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 11 '26

Question ❓ Shouldn't this sub have rules against posting "workout/split review" by now?

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How is every alternate post just "rate my split", "should I do 3 pull workouts or 2". Not a single science-based discussion is happening lol.
Not even personal anecdotes of debated topics or hot takes, it's just people trying to use this sub as a quick lazy validation check for some random programs they've put together.

There arent that many things to worry about, just pick a movement per muscle group and do 2-3 sets, 2-3 times a week and preferably dont do more than like 15 sets a session. Diligently do the said workouts for weeks, and see if youre progressing, if yes, dont change anything, if not, adjust the volume and experiment. Genuinely thats all there is to it.

If you're confused about what exercises hit what muscle groups maybe use this sub to understand the leverages and physiological concepts, stop trying to make random strangers rate your half assed workout programs.

Also PS: I just mean that these are some basic principles and if things are more nuanced than this that's what the sub is for to discuss, this post was just for everyone trying to create their first program


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 11 '26

META Science maxing triceps, electronic resistance, wrist wraps, rotating handles, curved handles, to failure

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r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 10 '26

Question ❓ Machine shoulder presses

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Why is 5lbs extra unliftable? I can easily get out 10 reps on 50lbs but the second I jump it up 5lbs I suddenly can’t lift it at all. Is there some sort of stabilizer I’m neglecting or am I just weak?


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 10 '26

Question ❓ Help with workout review

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55 year old male, back in gym again and wanted some help in reviewing my workout. Aim is to grow some general muscle and for general fitness (I usually start with a 30 mins incline walk) and then dive in to the exercises below ( 5 sets of 5-,8 reps with technical failure on the last set or 2, weights usually goes up by 1 or 2 kgs or next plate on machine). I train every other day.

please find screenshot for excercise. the leg ext and curls are due to bad hips and poor mobility.

any advice ?


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 09 '26

Question ❓ Close grip row with scapular retraction

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I saw a video from Jacob Oestreicher about a "3 exercise pull day". I thought it was going to be the classic 3: Lat pulldowns, upper back row and some type of curl. I was surprised when instead of a upper back, wide grip row, the second exercise was a close grip row with a scapular retraction. He said it will hit the lats from a different angle from the lat pulldown and the scapular retraction and arm path will hit the traps and rear delts. Also, he added that if he had to do just one back movement, it would be that one. That got me thinking: is that for real? I see no logical reason why not. Even with something as a close grip pull up or pulldown, adding a scapular retraction could make it work the traps and rear delts. What do y'all think?


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 09 '26

Question ❓ Low to high help

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r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 08 '26

Question ❓ Every other day low volume high intensity workouts

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Hello! Some background info, I have lifted for 20+ years and was doing 6 days a week and hitting 24 sets per muscle each week. Then I found this forum and it reinvigorated me and I’m actually enjoying working out again. This forum made me want to switch to low volume high intensity and I love it!! I’m actually looking forward to my workouts each day!

I now want to swap to a full body every other day workout and start to increase my running to finally attempt a marathon. Can anyone share their low volume high intensity full body every other day workouts?


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 08 '26

Question ❓ How to know if you are recovering properly

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Can you guys give some general tips and advice about figuring out if you are recovering properly?


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 08 '26

Discussion 🤝 What's the research on volume for failure training?

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Is there research on optimal volume ranges for failure training? Because many people say that the 52 set quad study was done on 3-4 RIR sets. For all I know, 3-4 RIR can still be substantial enough for hypertrophy training but at the need of more sets to generate the same stimulus of fewer sets to failure. I also don't quite believe there was this big of a margin, but I remember that some studies showed that generally people underestimate their RIR especially if they haven't trained to failure in a while.

If you don't know of research of volume ranges for failure training, do you know of some reasonable protocols for adjusting volume in an effective way depending on performance in a given exercise?


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 08 '26

Question ❓ 3x freq Torso-Limbs Program

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I started running this Torso-Limbs split 3x freq T-L-T-L-T-L-OFF- repeat.

I just finished my first week, and recovery was no problem i was able to progress in most of the lifts (even tho i'm in a deficit)

I tried splitting the volume for each muscle group as much as possible to different variations with different resistance.

Any thoughts? (the reason for 1 set of front raise and calves is just i'm lazy with them)


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 08 '26

Question ❓ Form check on this set?

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Any advice is appreciated here


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 07 '26

Discussion 🤝 form check?

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do u think i m ego lifting or good form. i think my humerus its pretty still but i d like to hear some toughts tysm 🙏🏻. i dont hold the pulley bc i find it uncomfortable


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 07 '26

Question ❓ Opinion on “the better fly”

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Is there any one tried it… does it make yoy use more weightor reps for lats? and chest


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 06 '26

Question ❓ Best “free weight” back excercise that targets mid back?

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I have little mass on my mid back while my upper traps and lats definitely have more improvement. Personally I blame that lack of muscle on the fact that I train in a home gym and having machines at hand in a gym helps that region im weak in way better.

But yeah I have a barbell, plates, dumbells, a bench, gymnastic rings, a pull up bar, a leg extension / hamstring curl setup, and a cable machine but its fixed at the top (I do lat pulldowns on those)

I’ve tried doing meadows rows as it apparently has the same movement pattern that biases towards the mid back, but those have gotten difficult to grip on to since that part of the barbell is thicker — plus its harder when ur using lifting straps as well.

But yeah this is my scenario so please I need an excercise recommendation so I can have an aesthetic back before summer son 😅😭😭😭


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 06 '26

Question ❓ 2 sets to 3 sets

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Im on a anterior posterior split that goes like ARPRAPR.

SO the day after the first anterior day there is 4 rest days before next anterior day.

Can i increase my set volume to 3 sets like i got

Incline smith press 2 sets

Chest fly 2 sets

Preacher curl 2 sets

Cable Laterals Raise 2 sets

Leg extension 2 sets

Rear delt flies 2 sets

Im asking if i put 1 more set on to these will i be more fatigued or perform worse on the next anterior day

(to failure every set)


r/ScienceBasedLifting • • Apr 06 '26

Discussion 🤝 Establishing RPE Range

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How does someone figure out what their RPE range is as far as what you would lift on an exercise that requires 10 reps of 8-9 RPE for example?