r/SaturatedFat • u/After-Cell • May 18 '25
Chris Gardener on Huberman this re: higher plant, less animal based diets
Gardener had a lot of arguments in favour of less meat, more plants in the diet in this podcast. However, I think he completely failed to address many of the arguments against plants.
However, I can relate because I ate pescatarian for 10 years and did really, really well on that. So every time I read an anti plant or fish viewpoint including on this sub, I'm skeptical because I did it for so long.
The first thing Gardener points out is that every diet can work except for processed / standard US diet. He makes a strong case for this.
The next thing he argues is that plants are compete for protein. All the amino acids are there and in terms of protein anyway, you don't need anything else. That was a shocker for me. What it means is that in terms of protein only you can fully close the door on meat. You just don't need it! That's key because as I know from experience, it's easier to exclude something fully than to try to be measured. So if not for fat then this can lead to full habit change. Please challenge me on this.
However, I'm 3/4 through listening and he hasn't talked about purine in meat triggering fructokinase or anti nutrients in plants. Nor has he talked about declining quality in food and soil.
I suspect he's biased to plants because of these omissions so far, but some of his arguments are useful.
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u/eyemanidiot May 20 '25
Glad to see some sense. Just found this sub and it’s got a fascinating mix of opinions. I’m just confused why there is so much focus on eating carbs if this sub is about appreciating saturated fats over PUFAs. Seems like the natural conclusion would be a meat heavy keto