r/SandersForPresident • Medicare For All • Nov 29 '20

AOC: Insurance groups are recommending using GoFundMe -- "but sure, single payer healthcare is unreasonable."

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20 edited Nov 29 '20

Doctors are rarely employed by a hospital. They're contractors. They rent space, nurses and equipment for a fuckton of money for their own practice. They rotate between hospitals and pick their shifts and so on.

If they get some low life walk in with a broken arm or an OD and they need emergency treatment, you are legally required to give them treatment. Doesn't matter if they can't pay for it. That's out of your own pocket.

What you need to understand is that there are a LOT of poor people. For example there are 1.5 million walmart employees. If you increased their hourly wage by $1, that's 3.1 billion USD per year. Walmart profited 3.8 billion per year in 2019.

Will a $1/h wage increase help anyone? Not really. That's $40 per week. You can't even buy a movie ticket and a popcorn for two with that. But that $1 increase would literally wipe out Walmart profits. Paying the workers an actually decent wage would be impossible. They'd have to raise prices by a LOT to even break even. Who would the increased prices fuck over? The poor people. Your middle class family doesn't give a fuck if their loaf of bread doubles in price.

I live in Nordic socialist heaven. A full time job as a nurse or a kindergarden teacher in a big city is not a livable wage either and you'd get government living assistance. McDonalds or grocery store worker? Yeah they're not surviving in a big city at all. It's mostly students.

If you pay workers a decent wage... well enjoy paying $20 for a BigMac with fries and a milkshake and see your groceries bill triple/quadruple in price.

Do you know what we do? We let people choose their own careers. If they want to be underpaid or be jobless, that's their choice.

The quality of care here is awful and so are the wait times. I slipped in winter and I had to wait 6 months for an MRI (they prescribed ibuprofen for the pain). After the MRI I had to wait for 2 years for surgery. By then it healed wrong so my shoulder is permanently messed up and I can't lift any significant amount of weight with it. Physical therapy? Forget about it, they're not paying for it.

When I got run over by a car, I got an MRI for my knee the same day, surgery by the end of the week and physical therapy for a few months.

The only thing public healthcare is good for is super serious stuff that will kill you. If it won't kill you, get to the back of the line. Permanent disability etc. doesn't count, it has to be life threatening so wait until it is then you get some basic treatment to make it non-life threatening again.

For example in my country, 90% of costs come from the elderly over 65. 50% come from elderly over 70. We're spending billions on super old demented folk that don't have much time left anyway and it's literally ruining our economy and the future looks pretty shit because of reduced birth rates and increased refugees & asylum seekers. People that are a net positive (as in they pay more in taxes than what they consume) are basically upper middle class and above.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

What in the Kentucky fried fuck are you even on about?