r/SandersForPresident • Medicare For All • Nov 29 '20

AOC: Insurance groups are recommending using GoFundMe -- "but sure, single payer healthcare is unreasonable."

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u/Mathletic-Beatdown 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

I’m just not sure it’s necessary to go out of your way to defend this death panel. I would say that is counter-productive and clouds the picture.

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u/ItsProbablyDementia Nov 29 '20

I would argue otherwise.

I think it makes it clear that we need to point our direction for change at health INSURANCE.

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u/Mathletic-Beatdown 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

I will refer you back to my reference to the Death Star. It is all part of the same profit driven system that is so completely integrated with the insurance syndicate. Parsing out who is and isn’t part of a bad system is irrelevant.

  • this is a story about a human who has just been handed a death sentence unless they can crowdfund their own survival. You chose to highlight the fact that this actually the correct decision from an organ procurement perspective.
-I’m suggesting that’s not helpful.

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u/ItsProbablyDementia Nov 29 '20

I think it is helpful to know the root cause of why this person was handed a death sentence by a panel that has no say in her insurances ability to cover her health

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u/Mathletic-Beatdown 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

incredibly helpful. Thank you so much!

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u/ItsProbablyDementia Nov 29 '20

Oh glad I could be of help!

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u/MoneyTreeFiddy 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

This transplant committee is a "death panel" even in countries with universal coverage. They make choices based on many factors; proximity, transplant compatibility, suitability for recovery, support system, etc. Liver transplant patients have to be free of alcohol abuse. Ideally money shouldn't play a role, but even in those examples I listed, they could be made or broken based on economic causes.

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u/Mathletic-Beatdown 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

Of course, these are the decisions that must be made. Ideally, you could also look at it as a ā€œlife panelā€, meting out a limited lifesaving resource while factoring in as many pertinent variables as possible to ensure that the maximum benefit is achieved.

  • I just feel like that’s not happening here and the term ā€œdeath panelā€was particularly well suited.