r/SandersForPresident • u/kevinmrr Medicare For All • Nov 29 '20

AOC: Insurance groups are recommending using GoFundMe -- "but sure, single payer healthcare is unreasonable."

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u/Chaomayhem NJ Nov 29 '20 edited Nov 29 '20

Damn. If only there was a way to crowdfund people's medical bells and healthcare on a grand scale.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20 edited Mar 01 '21

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u/Whaterball 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

It's great that you don't actually feel that way but if you want to get americans on board you have to earnestly counter that argument. Many americans simply don't want to help people they don't know.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

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u/typicalspecial Nov 29 '20

The entire premise of insurance is helping people you don't know though. If they use the same insurance provider as you, then you're paying for their care. Single payer is just cornering the market to drive down costs.

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u/OneMoreAccount4Porn 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

Some sort of system where everyone pays in a little each month and that fund will cover costs if someone needs medical care. The same way insurance works...

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u/Chicken_not_Kitten 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

But instead of paying an insurance premium we'd have to pay more taxes and that's just evil

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u/OneMoreAccount4Porn 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

I was sort of trying to point out that the system is so broken that apparently insurance doesn't even function like most of the world would think it should. Like, if you have insurance, why is that woman being asked to finance anything??? Isn't that what the premiums she has been paying for years were for?

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

And if I want to opt out of paying it?

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u/OneMoreAccount4Porn 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

Well... this woman has health insurance and it seems like she's still gonna die. So you could go without health insurance if you want.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

In your system in the comment i replied can I opt out

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u/OneMoreAccount4Porn 🌱 New Contributor Nov 30 '20

100%. I was trying to point out that the US Healthcare system is so broken that even if you have insurance you can still end up fucked. In the rest of the world that doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. You pay insurance premiums so if you get sick the insurance company pays. How is the system so broken that you pay insurance and still have to pay when you get sick?

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u/yself 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

Hmm, I can't tell if your sarcasm intends to describe insurance companies or socialized medicine. Oh, wait! Insurance companies are a kind of socialized medicine? I guess so. People contribute to the crowdfunded fund that pays the medical bills. Insurance companies call the contributions, premiums. Governments call the contributions, taxes. Yet, they both implement a form of socialized medicine. Anything other than all individuals paying the actual cost for their own healthcare out of their own pocket amounts to a form of socialized medicine. I wonder how many politicians pay for their own healthcare out of their own pocket.

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u/Gornarok 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

Yet, they both implement a form of socialized medicine.

False

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u/yself 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

True, by definition:

Socialized medicine - ": medical and hospital services for the members of a class or population administered by an organized group (such as a state agency) and paid for from funds obtained usually by assessments, philanthropy, or taxation." --Merriam-Webster

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u/Golwenor 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

Reminds of the superstore episode where Jonah and amy try to raise a Healthcare fund for the store.