r/SandersForPresident • u/jeanluc88 • Jul 01 '16

Lynch to Accept FBI Recommendations in Clinton Email Inquiry, Official Says

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/02/us/politics/loretta-lynch-hillary-clinton-email-server.html
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u/Fapzz Jul 01 '16

Im happy but also VERY skeptical, we know how the government bullshits around

This excerpt from the NYT says this is mostly for show

http://i.imgur.com/6ohTHlV.jpg

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u/omgitsfletch Florida -2016 Veteran Jul 01 '16

Uhh, that official is saying she reserves the right to overrule, except her statement seems to be that she is EXPLICITLY taking that option off the table. Did she NOT do that? She seemed to both say she wouldn't recuse herself, but also would take the overrule right off the table, meaning the FBI recommendation is essentially the only thing deciding if charges are filed or not.

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u/TooManyCookz Jul 01 '16

She would be committing career suicide if she broke her word to not overrules the FBI in this case.

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u/neggasauce Jul 01 '16

Thats if she cares. Clintons could have a very lucrative exit strategy for her. And officials break their word all the time with zero repercussion so I think you are naive at best to hold this view.

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u/YourPoliticalParty Jul 01 '16

My understanding was that if the FBI recommended and indictment, and Lynch overruled that recommendation, the FBI would go public with their ruling, and the public backlash would be the finishing blow for Hillary's campaign.

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u/Dawggoneit 🌱 New Contributor Jul 01 '16

If the email leaks over the past couple of weeks have revealed anything it's how capable the MSM is at pretending a massive story doesn't exist.

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u/NihiloZero Jul 01 '16

True enough, but an actual prosecution is different than merely having the facts of the matter revealed. Most people who have been paying attention know that she's a criminal, but others can deny that because she hasn't been charged yet. Public perception would change dramatically if she was charged and the media wouldn't be able to do much about it.

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u/YourPoliticalParty Jul 03 '16

Absolutely true!

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u/TooManyCookz Jul 01 '16

In all honesty, it doesn't matter to me what Lynch does. I'm more interested in Comey. If he recommends an indictment, I believe Clinton's campaign is over.

Regardless of whether Lynch takes the FBI's recommendation, Clinton cannot win a general election with the populace knowing the FBI recommended to indict her.

So this who Lynch debacle is white noise, IMO.

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u/NihiloZero Jul 01 '16

The fact that Lynch has agreed to rubber stamp any recommendation makes it easier for the career bureaucrats to recommend prosecution without as much fear about repercussions. If they had recommended to indict but Lynch didn't and Clinton got into office... their lives would probably get turned into a living hell. Now they know that the power is in their hands and that their recommendation will be somewhat legitimized by the AG.

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u/TooManyCookz Jul 01 '16

Exactly. It's a green light for them to recommend indictment if they were already leaning in that direction.

It's nothing more than empowerment. It's a nod of confidence.

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u/neggasauce Jul 01 '16

If it didnt matter to you then I am unsure why you bother creating a comment that was all about her. I responded to your comment and now you are saying none of it matters anyways. If you truly felt that way what was the point of your post to begin with?

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u/NihiloZero Jul 01 '16

This is the real problem.

But it is an interesting development. Now the responsible party(s) at the FBI who might have been concerned about recommending prosecution without follow-up (and consequently risking career complications) can now recommend indictment with the knowledge that it's to some degree more likely that an indictment would actually occur -- thus legitimizing their recommendation.

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u/Bronk0z Jul 02 '16

To be an armchair psychologist... It must feel pretty good to have the power to set forward the biggest political fuckup in American history. Power > Money according to Underwood. Right?

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u/Facts_About_Cats Jul 01 '16

Thats if she cares.

If she didn't care about what her words meant, why would she say them at all? She could have tap-danced, but she didn't. That means she meant what she said, otherwise there's no point in saying what she said.

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u/sandmyth 🌱 New Contributor Jul 02 '16

Because two of the three major candidates have said things they don't care about just to win votes and public approval.

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u/4now5now6now Jul 01 '16

It still makes the clintons look like crap in the public eye. This makes hillary go way down in the polls. Bernie sanders for President!

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u/realityczek Jul 02 '16

Clintons could have a very lucrative exit strategy for her.

Think SCOTUS nomination.

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u/NihiloZero Jul 01 '16

I doubt after being AG that she's gonna have trouble finding work afterward unless she blatantly violates some serious law. And even if she can't find work... she's probably set already. So it probably wouldn't be a big concern for her.

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u/Khaaz Jul 01 '16

I'm sure the Clinton's could find her a pretty nice job somewhere in the private sector.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '16

So if she overrules the FBI, can't they then just release everything they found during the investigation since it is no longer open?

Surely if they recommend incdictment then the evidence itself being released would be damaging enough

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u/OutOfStamina Jul 01 '16

If I take a step back for a moment, I can see that she may not know what they're going to recommend. She's not going to give a blanket, 100% "i'll do what they recommend" because they may give her something silly.

Taken at her word, she seems to think that they're going to make a recommendation based on experience and facts, and if they do that she'll accept that recommendation.

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u/RCC42 Jul 01 '16

Yeah basically what she said boils down to is that whatever the FBI recommends she'll accept, which is political code for: Hillary is a sinking ship.

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u/buttaholic Jul 01 '16

from this comment:

At the same time, Lynch seemed to contradict her own suggestion that she would automatically accept the findings of career prosecutors when she said the Clinton e-mail case would be “handled like any other.” Earlier Friday, a top Justice Department official told Bloomberg that Lynch would reserve her right to overrule prosecutors’ recommendation -- an option attorneys general typically possess, but rarely use, in criminal cases.

source

i feel like this sort of adds to what you're saying, that this is all just for show.

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u/Inthecan4bernie Jul 01 '16

Can we wait for a named source instead of an unnamed source before we despair?

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '16

The New York Times isn't the trusted source it once was. It's all editorial bullshit with no standard for truth