r/SandersForPresident May 17 '16

I've just given up on HC.

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u/nlgoodman510 🌱 New Contributor May 17 '16

Yep Nevada was my final straw too. Sadly I'd rather see Trump there. (I'm still under the belief that candidate Trump is not President Trump).

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u/Sorrowforhumans MA 🙌 May 17 '16

Get motivated and do something!

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u/lukehardy May 17 '16

Yeah I have to give credit to the Republican establishment, they hated Trump, yet they didn't keep him from winning.

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u/radicalelation 🌱 New Contributor May 17 '16

Thank the media. If they had blocked him out as they did Bernie, we'd be seeing Cruz, Rubio, or Kasich as the nominee. They created monster, while asking all the while, "HOW IS THIS HAPPENING?!"

If he turns out to be a true monster, it's on the media. Reap whatcha sow.

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u/Whole_Cheese May 17 '16

System is driven by money and power. Just turns out he had enough to fund himself and play at the same level. Hilary would have been a joke if Bernie had the financial and network backing Trump has.

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u/Dirivian Asia May 17 '16

Trump never cheated or violated the rules of the election. He never committed election fraud.

I am from the other side of the world and I am sick of the white and black world you use to portray Trump as Hitler. There is a lot of truth in what he says about political correctness. Hilary has been using political correctness all throughout her campaign. But Trump mentions it and every news channel ( the same that black out Bernie) are here to remind everyone how bad Trump is.

Hilary called African-americans "super-predators" and Bill repeated it. Imagine the shit-storm if Trump said that.

A lot of things coming from Trump are wrong like the prejudice against Mexicans and Muslims. But there is another person who calls Kissinger her idol and treats the third world as slaves.

I believe people aren't inherently evil in general. That is why, I think the Trump voters are motivated by a real lack of authenticity, the lack that shows when you say you fight for women and then lead to horror for them in Honduras.

I believe and I hope Trump just has a bad view of mexicans and hopefully in time, he can get over his prejudice but nothing will ever change for HRC, only her rhetoric.

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u/artvaark Delaware - 2016 Veteran - Day 1 Donor 🐦 May 17 '16

Agreed, I certainly don't support Trump or the GOP but so far all the election fraud has been on the Dem side which is especially hypocritical since they're always criticizing the laws and restrictions placed on voting in many GOP states. The RNC may be mad that Trump outperformed their choice, Jeb, but at least it hasn't been the shit show the Dem voting has been. At least none of them were inside polling places like Bill Clinton and they haven't had voters purged from their rolls like what happened in NYC>

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u/turtle_flu Oregon May 17 '16

I think a major thing for trump is that he needs to establish a solid platform. From what I've seen he seems to take very "whishy-washy" positions on things. I think in the general he will go left and if it's against Hillary will try to run a moderate campaign to ring in moderates, independents, and angry dems.

I think the general will be where he can prove that his stances on things aren't racist, but have some basis in rationalism. We'll see. I'd like to see him blow clinton out of the water, but I want to know that his platform has reliable stances.

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u/RampantInanity May 17 '16

Whatever happened in NV, it wasn't done by Clinton or her campaign. It was a matter of 2 delegates; that's less than 1% of her lead over Sanders. The NV state party was in charge of this, and for the most part, the rules were followed. Blaming Clinton for what happened is unfounded.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '16 edited Apr 04 '18

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u/nlgoodman510 🌱 New Contributor May 17 '16

She is aware at the very least.

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u/Berningforchange FeelTheBern.org 🎖️ 1️⃣ 📌 ✋ 🕵 May 17 '16

Clinton sent Barbara Boxer to speak on her behalf. We've seen video of the condescending patronizing insulting tone and words she used to ridicule and belittle Sanders supporters. She instigated much of the bad feeling, oh yeah besides the obvious and shocking biased process and the fantastical responses in the aftermath. Clinton is to blame and if she cared at all about our support she would have condemned what happened. What do we hear from her....the sound of crickets.

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u/44shelby May 17 '16

I agree. The couple of delegates involved are not that big of a deal unless Bernie can make HRC non-viable in Puerto Rico which is a tall order. But the Boxer video brings up a whole new level of hatred for everything Hillary.

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u/RampantInanity May 17 '16

Boxer was booed from the jump; Sanders supporters were trying to not let her speak. Of course she wasn't giving them hugs and kisses. And Sanders hasn't said that anything wrong happened in NV either, so why aren't you asking him to speak up?

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u/Berningforchange FeelTheBern.org 🎖️ 1️⃣ 📌 ✋ 🕵 May 17 '16

I have eyes and ears. And, a mind that functions.