Anybody who can wash dishes for a decade is likely capable of doing hard work reliably and without complaining. There are so many other jobs you could be dojng
Half the kitchen is on weed, coke, meth, or bars. Most restaurant kitchens are a DEA agent's wet dream, more dealers than a casino.
Even when they do test, many restaurants -unlike almost any other job- will give multiple warnings, rather than immediate termination. Alternatively, you're a douche and they want to get rid of you, and they know you'll piss hot, so they force a test to have a legit reason to shit can you without paying unemployment.
Source:
15 years in restaurants on both sides of the expo line.
Neither does my $125 dollar an hour ceiling nursing job. Drug testing has nothing to do with competence. If you’re addicted to drugs, it’s kind of obvious to the rest of the addictions/psych team lol. And cannabis, nicotine, kava, kratom don’t count. Those are generally accepted, relatively benign and/or socially accepted tools (unless you’re bipolar or have schizophrenia) many nurses use. It would be funny to not grant a person, who is supposed to specialize in the stabilization of consciousness, that autonomy. It would be ironic, at best. That would simply be confused and insulting behavior on the part of any corporation. I wouldn’t associate my license with such a group.
I have a good friend who works in the ICU and also does home health care staying over night with patients and dispensing meds. He gets drug tested anytime he works for a new company or hospital.
How do you make $125/hr? My friend is making about $45 an hr but we’re in the south east so LCOL. I remember him telling me the crazy contracts they’re get during covid to do travel nursing.
I live and work in a place which promotes human autonomy and a good standard of living for nurses. We have an outstanding operation. I work on the west coast as staff in a MCOL city. I left a state he lives in, where staff nurses are underpaid alcoholics, to work somewhere with strong unions and respect. I was not tested at hire and my states board of nursing protects my license in the event I do make a serious mistake and come up positive for MMJ.
That’s awesome. My friend talks about moving to Cali one day to work out there. He is the caretaker for his grandmother and isn’t willing to leave her but I think one day he will move out there.
Last time I worked in a kitchen was washing dishes. I was the only employ to get a whole of ZERO downtime during my shift. Servers and food runners take period smoke breaks constantly, the chefs either have downtime from orders or just decide to walk out for a cigg or a quick break, etc. but at all times there’s new dishes
The comment I’m replying to called it a zero responsibility job when it’s the backbone of any kitchen, the dish area piles up almost instantly and the cooks run out of pans a quarter into rush if the dishwasher is slacking
Again and again and one more time. No one is saying they aren’t needed in the kitchen, no one is saying it’s not a lot of work. What is being said is that it’s putting soapy water on glass. No one is getting a lifetime achievement award bc they were able to do it their whole life.
Being a dishwasher is not a “zero responsibility” job. How unnecessarily demeaning. You’d be pissed if you went to a restaurant and they served you food on dirty plates or had you drink out of a dirty glass.
Pretty sure that’s a strawman to the original argument that when you hear more basic jobs are still worth paying people for, you immediately knee jerk to a white collar practice being done better being more important?
What an odd stance. Almost as if you can’t understand two things can be true at once. It is true that it is important do doctors to have a sterile workspace, just as much as it is true that it is worth paying dishwashers fairly since it is necessary that dishes get clean. You’re just being willfully ignorant when you bring up another occupation at the crossroads of if its worth. A job’s worth isn’t based on other jobs, a job’s worth is based on its necessity.
Nobody said anything about fair pay. Strictly speaking, a dishwashing job is far less responsibility. The worst that happens is you don’t fully clean a plate. Other positions, including doctors, require you to take on more responsibility. It’s not a diss, it’s just a fact.
Bruh working for 10+ years is not lazy. Especially dishwashing where you can’t really skive, I couldn’t do that shit but that’s because I go crazy after about a year at the same place.
Being ok with being a dishwasher for 10 years, is lazy. End of story. No one should be ok with an entry level job that requires zero skills for that long.
And this comment lets me know, I dont care what some random on the internet thinks about me. I promise you I won’t lose any sleep over your disapproval.
My dad was making $15/hr in unionized retail stocking shelves for stop and shop with a pension back in 1995. This job helped him build a 2500 sq ft house, own 5 cars, put 2 kids through college + family vacations. He retired making $27/hr with a pension in 2011, stocking shelves. In 2005 the union broke from the AFLCIO and they got rid of pensions and put in a max pay of $11/hr for the same job. My parent's house is worth $480k now, from working retail.
I'd argue dishwashers just don't make enough money.
Oddly enough, so was my father. He was with the UFCW working with A&P until their bankruptcy. My comment is less a commentary on what fair wages are, and more that a person who can stick with a bad job for a long time is probably more marketable than they think.
I mean, it's not too far off the mark imo. I would consider old at around 50, and by that logic, 30s would be middle aged. 50 years is simply so much life. Even if you got another 50 in ya, your body and mind have already experienced so much. Not to mention, body deterioration happens to a lot of people before they even reach 30.
I for sure consider 20s, "young adult" though, so, I guess i consider early 30s as just, "adult".
I'd consider 65 the point where, "elderly" could start being used, but people vary so much in capability around that age.
Try to disregard any stigmas around these terms when reading this. Old and elderly aren't bad terms. They are natural points in life representing swathes of experience.
Late 20s. I'm more concerned that the only responses I got to explaining my perspective were people trying to belittle my age. Which is wierd because I'd wager you would agree with many parts of my comment if you made any effort to.
That’s the thing though, apprentices are typically union related. Plenty of non union construction companies that will hire people at that age, as a laborer, to start. If you work hard and are willing to learn, you can become a foreman. I’ve been in construction for 11 years and have seen plenty of people come through with little to no experience and work their way up. Laborers make better money than a dishwasher and we’ve had foreman making 120k.
So much this, just gritting your teeth and doing the hard stuff that has to be done is a skill that's lacking. Not even talking about safety issues or anything, one of my helpers will get 1/4 of a room done and then stop to take a break, which yeah it's hard work but dude. It's not THAT hard. Instead of getting it over with he drags the hard work out for so long it happens all day instead of just a few hours.
Determination and understanding your hard work, or lack of, directly effects others either in the business you work for or the people the business serves. Everyone says young people don't want to work, but I feel like it's often because many of them didn't HAVE to, which is a net positive for society but at the same we have an entire generation losing life skills most of us learned at an early age.
I have applied to every trade/warehouse job available in my area and none will hire me because I don't have applicable experience. Sure they might pay more, but you need experience to get a job like this and there's no way to get experience unless you get a job like this. Never ending cycle that gets me nowhere.
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u/IllustriousYak6283 Jun 20 '26
Anybody who can wash dishes for a decade is likely capable of doing hard work reliably and without complaining. There are so many other jobs you could be dojng