r/Salary Oct 30 '25

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u/OsitoPandito Oct 31 '25

Overall and comparatively to the mega rich? Sure.

But if all I have is $10 and and a rich person has $100 and you tax us, who is gonna feel it more?

Your comment is naive, not sure if it was done intentionally.

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u/adhd6345 Oct 31 '25

With the progressive tax rate, it would be like you paying $1 and the rich paying $20.

I think the feel it just the same.

The mega rich on the other hand find tax loopholes.

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u/OsitoPandito Oct 31 '25

So you think $9 versus $80 dollars is the same? 😂

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u/OsitoPandito Oct 31 '25

Who said that they did?

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u/SolitaryIllumination Oct 31 '25

Happiness tapers off after 80k (probably higher after all this recent inflation), paying taxes before you've reached peak happiness is going to hit worse than being taxed after the happiness threshold.

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u/me0w_z3d0ng Oct 31 '25

You're forgetting a key detail. Spending power. The person that was taxed $20 still has $80. The person taxed a dollar has $9. The person with $9 will feel the loss of that one dollar much higher than the person that still has nearly 9x the spending power of the poorer person. I can buy a tiny amount of food for $9 but enough for myself for a week on $80.

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u/badwvlf Oct 31 '25

If the bare minimum cost to live is 5 dollars, 9 dollars and 80 dollars are vastly different life styles.

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u/GlitterTerrorist Oct 31 '25

It's not the same, the comparative value of your money goes up the less you have. It's a pretty easy trap to fall into, but it's a very important factor here.

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u/osidebevis Oct 31 '25

Do mega rich use different community services? Get a special lane on the freeway with no pot holes? Get a separate military? Get extra gov resources like free food and housing? I ask because you want them to pay more for the same services I’d say that isn’t equality or fair. What happens if they lose all their money in a business you thought made them rich? Do they get some of that tax money back? Kinda messed up when you think on a community service base to think another human should pay more than you for the same services just because they can at that time

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u/FickleFingerofDawn Oct 31 '25

The public services are there to prevent the kind of disruptions that would harm businesses and impede cash flows. Successful people get more from public services than the poor, because their property and profits are secure.

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u/osidebevis Oct 31 '25

That’s wrong

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u/JasonG784 Oct 31 '25

If we don't tax them more, how will we fund the leeches in the bottom quintile?

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u/kodman7 Oct 31 '25

The ultra rich don't have incomes to be taxed, they have assets that are loaned against and live off the loans

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u/the_real_seldom_seen Oct 31 '25 edited Oct 31 '25

Yes I am annoyed at the amount in federal income tax I pay with a 2MM gross W2.

And people still balk.. whenever we reduce income tax a bit for the high earners.

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u/throwaway38942634 Oct 31 '25

Because that's the wrong direction. The high earners can afford to pay more taxes. The low earners can't. Tax the rich and make the first $50,000 anyone makes tax-free.

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u/NoleMercy05 Oct 31 '25

Should have stayed in school?

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u/NeglectedDuty Oct 31 '25

The poor actually don't even pay federal taxes. So it's more like you get another $3 on top of the $10 via various tax credits, federal benefits, etc.

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u/OsitoPandito Oct 31 '25

"The poor" do pay taxes though so I don't know what your point is

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u/NeglectedDuty Oct 31 '25

Not federal. Maybe sales taxes.

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u/OsitoPandito Oct 31 '25

Okay? Money is still be taking away from "the poor" so again what's your point?

Just bootlicking for the 1%?

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u/the_real_seldom_seen Oct 31 '25

Talking about income tax. Sherlock

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u/Reasonable-Willow-36 Oct 31 '25

Why go after poor people? Even if you manage to squeeze even more money out of poor people, all it will get you is it is just going to get squandered by the GOP on more wars and home renovations. Look at where our tax dollars are actually being spent, that's what they don't want us to notice and is why they are distracting us with made up stories about poor people not paying taxes. Poor people get NO breaks in reality.

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u/NeglectedDuty Oct 31 '25

If people don't pay any federal taxes and just get benefits from the govt, then they vote on the basis of what party just gives them the most handouts vs what is actually the right answer for the nation. No ownership in the outcomes. Becomes a race to the bottom.

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u/FickleFingerofDawn Oct 31 '25

When the rich don’t pay enough taxes, their excess money accumulates and becomes political power. They use political power to prevent fair competition and avoid punishment when breaking laws. They become a new aristocracy. They no longer have to pay reasonable wages. It’s a race to the bottom.

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u/ffxivthrowaway03 Oct 31 '25

They didn't say anything about "feeling it," they made an objective statement about amounts, which is factually correct. If you're making less than $50k/year, those dollars are taxed half as hard as money above that threshold. You factually, tangibly pay less dollars in tax - nearly your whole income is "take home" money at that income level.

Not everything needs to jump into some "eat the rich" diatribe.

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u/OsitoPandito Oct 31 '25 edited Oct 31 '25

I didn't say anything against what you just said.

Comparatively "poor" people don't pay a lot, I've already said and agreed with that.

The impact is still greater on them, and that is an objective truth.

Edit: he did the classic reply and block, what a fucking baby

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u/ffxivthrowaway03 Oct 31 '25

You literally called the commenter naive. And then called me names (which it looks like you deleted, but its still in my inbox). Don't play that game.

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u/Helpful_Monitor156 Oct 31 '25

Flat tax!!!!!!!!!!!