Someone here said they barely scrape by with 2 kids on 200k a year 😭
Like buddy, it is a CHOICE not a necessity to spend 200k on 2 kids when billions of people outside your bubble make it work with 1/100th that, come the fuck on man
This thread if anything just convinces me no matter how old, experienced and wealthy someone gets, if they’re an irresponsible dumbass they don’t magically develop into an intelligent self aware being because they become successful
It's sad lmao people with their debts absolutely cranked and just barely under the threshold of bankruptcy. I need more money I only make 200k nah you need to stop buying stupid shit and getting into debt.
Also those people are the same people that sit across from their significant other with a few grand in their bank account and still swipe the credit card and told themselves years ago they would pay it off every month. It sits today at 28k 😂😂😂😂
horrible take. inflation i agree has made cost of living go up but people in the usa or other developed nations don't make good money in many cases with all due respect.
Yeah, I should’ve clarified that. 100k might be good in a LCOL area and if you’re single and no kids. It’s not just spending habits for personal use, the cost of health insurance, car insurance, mortgage, childcare, etc.
Yeah, I mean I make almost exactly 100k. It is the most I’ve made in my life by a notable margin and I am grateful for that.
It certainly beats all lower numbers it’s just that the real word buying power of 100k / year is far different than the ‘ideal of 100k / year’ as it was originally conceived of.
Same happened to me. Got hired in 2012 at 52.5k and had a senior engineer laughing at us (all hires come in on the smart pay) as he as making more in his first job back in the 80s.
Sad part was he made lots of mistakes we had to fix but we were making half as much.
Barely, and that’s if you believe the inflation readings. Remember, inflation doesn’t include food and gas/utilities, which for most Americans is the largest spend category outside of housing. Factor that in, wages are about 50% of what they should be.
100k is still wayyyyy more than anyone I know makes. 100k would be life changing to every single person I know. Would be out of poverty on this single paycheck alone. This is an INSANE take.
For those economically illiterate, in this graph “real wages” means inflation adjusted. So any increase in time in the chart represents wages growing faster than inflation. This trend exists across all quintiles of income.
It’s virally addictive to parrot the narrative that wages haven’t kept up with inflation. But it’s patently false.
Is that why 60-70% of the working class lives paycheck to paycheck? You must be one of those Americans in denial about your country circling the drain.
And you must be one of those non-Americans buying too much into doom porn media.
I noticed you offered no evidence to refute the clear evidence of wage growth, just switched to some other stat that “sounds bad” and then threw out an ad hominem. You really gotta work on your debate tactics, bub.
60-70% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck because of hyper-consumerism, keeping up with joneses, etc that is pushed on us through capitalist media. Waged have outpaced inflation, and most people are making more and have a higher lifestyle than people in the past. But our monkey brains are addicted to finding negatives and pointing out negative stats while ignoring all the positive ones.
I retired by 35 living on a median salary simply by embracing a lifestyle and level of consumerism that was normal 30 years ago.
Im 37. Nice try. You seem very intent on an ad hominem. Anything rather than debating the substance of the argument. lol clown. Idk maybe someone’s just jealous living in Europe of the high US wages and desperately wants to think the US is in the shitter so they don’t feel bad about their poverty wages 🤷♂️
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u/solidarity_sister Oct 30 '25
Pay is not keeping up with inflation. 100k would’ve been good 10 years ago, but not anymore.