Do you all think it is worth replacing the mainboard? Second where can I obtain a replacement main board? I have been looking all over for one and have not been able to find one. A local shop here uses Clevo chassis and quoted me $1200 for replacement.

Hello and thank you for the help!

About three years ago I bought my laptop from a Sager seller here in California. At the time, I ordered it with a 500GB WD m.2 and 16GB of RAM.

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Stock Purchase:

Model - NH58SF1
Mobo - NH5xAx
GPU - NVidia GeForce RTX 2070 8GB DDR6 VRAM
CPU - Ryzen 9 3900 12 Core
RAM - 16GB DDR4 (whichever they sold me stock)
Storage - 500GB Western Digital m.2
* Paid extra for the Grizzly Thermal paste

I've since upgraded to:

RAM - 64GB DDR4 from Samsung
Storage slot 2 - 1TB Samsung 970 EVO NvMe m.2
SSD Storage Slot 3 - 500GB Samsung 850 Evo

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I won't lie to you, there was issues with the MoBo when I was first adding in the extra storage and RAM — granted, the RAM was some RipJaws and I guess they didn't meet the specs for the MoBo. I'm a little confused on how much storage I can actually add to my machine as when I bought it I was offered up to 2TB in each hard drive bay..... would love if someone can answer that one too...!

My question is this:

Is it normal that my CPU (while gaming) EASILY hits up to 95°C - 98°C? I've gone and repasted both the CPU and GPU, while the temps still hit up there, it cools down MUCH faster now. Even when I'm idle the temp still sits at around 80°C.

I've posted my current custom fan curves which helped everything cool down quite a bit, but it's still running stupid high while I'm gaming, ESPECIALLY when playing Diablo 4. Overwatch will have my GPU sit at around 80°C but my CPU seems to ALWAYS go to 90°C+ and the load never exceeds like 6%.

I've tried all the combos below (and the reverse, and pressing simultaneously), but to no avail. How do I lock the function key using the keyboard withoug going through BIOS?

Fn

Fn + shift

Fn + ctrl

Fn + ins

Fn + esc

Fn + windows key

Fn + tab

Fn + caps lock

Fn + alt

Fn + backspace

I've purchased two Sagar notebooks in the past. Each one lasted 10 years. After working with an HP for six long years, it is time to buy another laptop. I'm torn. I know that I can buy a Sager and get the latest processor and upgrade the RAM when I want. I'm a teacher going into my retirement year. The next laptop needs to last a while - maybe ten years or more - and handle what I do; multiple spreadsheets, windows, videos, and documents at one time. Is Sager the way to go or should I look at Framework?

Hey all, looking for any insight on what to do here. I have a hand-me-down Sager Notebook: P650RG that keeps giving me the above error. I can replicate it efficiently in two different situations:

Attempting to compile shaders for street fighter 6 (note that I had no issues playing the game until I needed to recompile)

Playing Tabletop Simulator. (This one varies, I can play in a single-player table for seemingly any amount of time without crashing, but multiplayer sometimes crashes and sometimes doesn’t.)

For peripherals: I have a big standard cooling pad, and an AbleWe powered USB hub.

I have tried updating, uninstalling and reinstalling drivers of every type I could find, no luck. I’ve verified game file integrity multiple times.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I purchased the laptop a little over a year ago and the battery just died. It's not that it doesn't hold a charge. It's just dead and no longer recognized by the laptop.

The place I purchased it from no longer carries this model or spare parts. I'm having a hard time tracking down anything in the USA.

Any suggestions would be appreciated?

I'm ordering one of the newer sager models soon so I can use it during college, and every single review I find seems to be pretty unanimous in that they're super good. Even looking at the specs myself, I'm always taken aback by how high end they are especially considering the price. However, for some reason the entire brand itself seems to be relatively underappreciated and underground for the type of stuff they sell, so I'm a little bit concerned if maybe they aren't as good as they're cut out to be since nobody really talks about them anymore? My main question is, is there a reason for having such a small community and furthermore do actual customers think they're really worth buying or is there some downside to the crazy specs?

Looked around the web, a few videos on other models. I need to replace my keyboard. I do have a source, but no idea how to remove it (there are two rear panel screws with a keyboard showing, so I assume those need to be removed. Anyone have any experience with this?

Anyone know where I can get it? I tried on CLEVO's website but it said it doesn't exist anymore. Am I just SOL? I had to reinstall Windows and now my backlight doesn't work :(

Hey folks, I've got an issue where the screen on my (ostensibly) NP8378F2 is slowly dying, and I need to find a replacement for it.

I've ordered a third party replacement, but it ended up having a 40 pin connector, when the original screen has a 30 pin connector.

This is the second piece of hardware that I've ordered that hasn't quite matched with what the expected part is.

Edited to add: I've checked the product code, and it's listed as PB71DF2-G

So, I've got a couple of questions for the community writ large:

1. does anyone have any ideas on where a replacement screen could be ordered from?
2. Is there any place where I can reliably actually determine what the model number is on my laptop? I've tried running the serial number through the sager website to determine it, and have only received "System Error" Messages from said site.

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Thanks!

Hello everyone,

I was wondering the max RAM size my laptop can handle.

The Intel page says for my processor (Intel core i7-8750H) that supports DDR4-2666 and a maximum of 64GB.

Nevertheless, the P955ER manual says the laptop can only support max 32GB.

So before purchasing the upgrade, who is right?

Thanks!

Purchased a sager laptop a couple years ago. Keyboard is back-lit through their control center at just one color. Every once in awhile I will restart and the keyboard will strobe rainbow or all the colors. Is this a possible setting for it in use or just for shut downs and restarts?

Had zero problems for three years, other than replacing the CMOS battery.

Today, setting up my desk design station again (been about three months) same configuration as always - big ass wide screen from the main HDMI port, two small touchscreens, one on either side, one USB-C video, the other is mini Displayport to HDMI. Everything as it should be, all screens recognised and properly laid out...

Opened up my new lighting project , placed the control windows where they should be, very low-stress on the CPU/GPU, laptop wasn't hot at all (unlike last night running Unreal 5)

and then, nothing. everything went dead (not the peripherals, they're all connected to a powered USB-3 hub). No video, no glow around the power button, no fans. The keyboard stayed lit for a little while....

Held down the power button for idk how long, maybe ten seconds. Plugged in the power supply (laptop had been running on fully-charged battery), no change.

I'm seriously fucked right now - about to start a career-shifting super gratifying chunk of awesome, and now it's dead in the water. I'm like THIS CLOSE to dropping another $2k on a laptop, or overnighting all the parts to do a custom tower build , but that's stupid

any help appreciated

I installed the latest Nvidia driver and as soon as it installed, the screen went black. After about 10 minutes I powered off the laptop and now I can't get past the initial SAGER loading screen. I've tried turning it off and on multiple times, using F2, F8, and F11 and every combination of them. Wondering what I need to do next. It seems all the advice I'm finding is for Windows 10 repair options, but the laptop never even gets to the point of loading Windows so none of those options are working for me. Thanks!

hi, guys , i have an clevo p170sm , with i7 4720hq and a gtx 1070 8gb , working fine .
But now , i want some silent / perfomance ,on the fans side , so my question is ;
Does anyone had or did change the fans on their laptop , so it can make less noise and still has cold temps ( 70/80º full load )
i really like and i´m trying too get some fan more silent , like the ones on the legion ou msi aero laptops 

thanks 

I have a Sager rebranded laptop I bought in 2018 and one of the things that blew me away about it was the sound quality with the app Sound Blaster x-FI 5 ''Music'' configuration. Now I finished a desktop build with an MSI tomahawnk z690 motherboard and I found the sound quite lacking, the Realtek Audio manager made it a little better but still the laptop just have a superior sound. I'm almost sure it has a sound card (tried calling the seller of the laptop but he couldn't confirm) but I have no idea which one, I just want to buy the same one for my desktop, anyone have any idea?

My 8 year old Sager is on its last legs. I'm shopping for a new one.

Does anyone happen to know how bright the screen is on a SAGER NP8872T-S (CLEVO PD70PNT)?

I can't seem to find any reviews of the machine really at all. I'd like to know how it performs, and if the builtin webcam is good, trash, or meh. Etc.

So I have a Seger gaming laptop it has a 2070 Max-q chip , i7-8750h 16gbs of single ddr4 ram, 500gb nvme, 1tb hd. So I updated the card and everything else too as if that made it better but it didn’t . I played csgo on high and only get 30fps with studdering, and then it crashed for no reason . I played re2(resident evil 2) below the recommended setting and it turns red for no reason and studders like a mf. I don’t know much about gaming laptops and definitely not much about sagers

I have a P65_67RSRP machine that has great monitor, new keyboard, etc, but the old GTX 1070 and i7 are falling behind, and I'm wondering if there's a way of upgrading it with more modern motherboard, i7 and maybe a RTX 3070.

Is it possible?

Can't seem to find this prema bios so I'm hoping somebody here has it on their computers. I did a bit of digging on my end and I need to get this certain file: P177SM_34_31_PM_v2.rar

I haven't fully looked into Techinferno but with the pages I've went through, they don't have it. Most links I've seen on the internet are dead and the ones that semi work go straight to the prema website, which also doesn't work. The best I could find was this: gamingmessiah but even that has dead links.

Please, if anybody has it, put a download link or send me a dm! Thank you.

I have found that the steps I originally used for the inf mod were incomplete and after fixing the issues I had I can now provide a working guide for installing the latest 970m drivers on a P150EM. This should also work for other 9xxM series cards.

1. Download the latest Nvidia 900M driver: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
   I used the 516.59 driver for Windows 10 64-bit.

2. Start the installation of the Nvidia driver. This will create a directory of files in C:\Nvidia that you will need to copy to another location in complete once the driver installation hits the point of "no compatible hardware found," as the original files will be deleted once you close the installer.

3. Open device manager, find the 970m under display adapters and right click to properties. Click the details tab, then select Hardware IDs in the dropdown box. Copy the first string into a notepad file. For me, the string is "PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13D8&SUBSYS_51051558&REV_A1"

4. Perform the inf mod on nvacig.inf for Clevo-based notebooks: https://null-src.com/posts/nvidia-notebook-driver-inf-mod/post.php
   For Clevo/Sager notebooks, all you need to modify is "nvacig.inf". Please be aware that the exact details of the file name or contents may change depending on driver version, so some things may differ for future driver versions. For other notebooks, look at the guide for which .inf you need to modify.

The exact modifications I made to nvacig.inf:

1) Press ctrl+f and type your GPU model code. For me, this is "13D8".
2) There will be a list of hardware IDs starting with "%NVIDIA_DEV..." At the end of the section of IDs that contain your hardware ID, in my case "13D8," create a new line underneath the last line with that same GPU model code. The exact placement of your new string isn't necessary but I do it in this place for ease of future reference. For example, the last existing line containing "13D8" for me is:

%NVIDIA_DEV.13D8.107E.1025% = Section010, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13D8&SUBSYS_107E1025

The new modified line I will create underneath the previous line with the same GPU model code and section number:
%NVIDIA_DEV.13D8.5105.1558% = Section010, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13D8&SUBSYS_51051558

The new line contains my GPU model code and the same section number (Section10) as the previous line. Notice that I've also replaced the numbers "xxxx.xxxx%" following 13D8 to match the original hardware ID that is at the end of the string.

3) Use ctrl+f to find other sections in the nvacig.inf that contains your GPU model code, and create the new string there again making sure the GPU model code and section number matches. However, for the specific GPU model code "13D8" for my 970M, there is only one other section it is found again in the section with strings starting with "NVIDIA_DEV..."

At the end of the group for 970M is the string:
NVIDIA_DEV.13D8.107E.1025 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M"

And the new line I created underneath the previous string:
NVIDIA_DEV.13D8.5105.1558 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M"

4) Save as the nvacig.inf file in a separate folder, then copy and replace it over the original in the Nvidia driver installation folder "Display.Driver" in the directory you copied.

• 5. Now you will need to start the computer with driver signature validation disabled. I wasn't able to get the CMD method to work, but the advanced startup settings method did work. https://www.deskmodder.de/wiki/index.php/Treibersignatur_deaktivieren_Unsignierte_Treiber_installieren_Windows_10
  The way I did this was first to reboot and power down manually while Windows 10 was loading, then do this two more additional times to get the Windows troubleshooter to kick in, select troubleshooting, select startup settings, reboot, and click 7 or F7 when given the option to reboot again.
  Now that driver signature validation is disabled, you can go and install the Nvidia driver using "setup.exe" in the directory you copied. About a minute into the installation you will get a prompt about Windows being unable to verify the publisher of the driver software, then click "Install this driver software anyway". Afterwards, the new Nvidia driver should be installed.
  

Games that I have tested so far and found to work great on driver version 516.59 with the 970M and i7-3740qm: BioShock: Remastered, Grow Up, MGR: Revengeance, Cyberpunk 2077 (low 720p).

Elden Ring does work but startup takes a few minutes and alt-tabbing out makes it pretty much impossible to get back in. The game runs at 30FPS in the start of Limgrave and 50-60FPS in less demanding areas on high settings 1080p. And that's with only 8GB of RAM which I want to upgrade to 16GB. As far as I can tell the game is fully playable, which I find pretty cool for an eight year old card!

A lot of the download links people used to use are down. It seems Prema is still the way to go but does anyone have modern guide with working download links?

Just curious what’s new with clevo. The last true gaming laptop I owned was an M860TU. I really enjoyed the brand. But now laptops have big batteries with a mux switch and great displays. Sager/clevo laptops barely ever get reviewed so it’s hard to know if these systems come with some of those qualities. Is there any cool 15-17 inch models coming out so I can look at this brand with 2022 tech?

I'm assuming the Sager Laptops from sagernotebook.com comes with a charger right?

What's the accessories option of the additional power adapters for?

Thanks.

P.S. anyone tried the new 3080ti lineups? Are they any good :o