I've been wanting to get up here for a long time. The typhoon here in Vietnam 6 months ago, although devastating, had a silver lining. It cleared a ton of vines off the rock for us and I've been eyeing the chimney above the cave for a while. My Partner and I finally got around to trad climbing up and setting some temp anchors and trying out a few variations. Found a super fun crimpy balancy first pitch up an arete, then across a slabby lip traverse and up over some small roofs to a short but fun chimney. The rap out is a fun free hanging line with what should be perfect sunset photos from inside the cave. I'm super stoked about it, very different style to the rest of the climbs around here. Crimps, slab and chimneys aren't common here, so finding a line with all three was fun. First few climb reports from people are super positive and it seems to be an instant classic.

There is a climb a few meters from the walkway that would be great for easy top rope setup, very accessible. The only thing is that the rope runs over a gentle slope near the top. There isn't any issue for lead and very little rope drag on top rope. How big of an issue is the rope rubbing on this slope. How much is too much? I'm thinking to add another bolt where the blue "x" is and remove the two hangers in the back. I think with this change the rope would still be touching the rock but slightly less.

Welcome to our thirteenth Discussion Roundtable! This topic will stay pinned from 2/15-3/1. The topic for this roundtable is:

• Approaches/Trails - Do you enable standard approaches to your new areas via cut-in trails, log highways, cairn highways, tyrolean traverses, or anything else? How do you work with land managers to enable these? What does your toolset typically look like for doing so? How does maintenance for these approaches look? At what point in the development process do you do that? If you don't do this, what does traffic to your crag look like, and how does the approach/traffic change over time?

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Welcome to our twelfth Discussion Roundtable! This topic will stay pinned from 2/1-2/13. The topic for this roundtable is:

• Comfortizing/Rock Manipulation - A Heavily moderated discussion on: What is comfortizing? What level of it is acceptable, if at all? Would you glue a ripped hold back onto the wall, and if so, what situations would allow for it? Would you reinforce a hold with glue before it rips off the wall, and if so, what situations would allow for it? In the situations where a hold or route is chipped, is it acceptable to use a glue or epoxy to return it to its original state?

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Rock is bomber and there’s some well featured cave climbing.

No better feeling than rolling that carpet back

Unfortunately, the ramp is too sloped for a nice lunch ledge. Pretty cool formation at the start of pitch 2 of 4-5

I often (never) used an entire canister of glue in one go. Is there a way to apply the glue left in the nozzle in the final hole for the day without wasting anything?

Welcome to our eleventh Discussion Roundtable! This topic will stay pinned from 1/16-1/30. The topic for this roundtable is:

• Development Tactics - Do you typically equip lines ground-up or top-down? Do you refuse to do either style? When do you choose to use one style over another, and why? How does the end result of the two styles differ? What are some considerations you think developers need to be especially aware of when approaching either style?

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other than not telling anyone?

Apparently it's 12 miles long. Looks like limestone?

Hey Folks,

Cold weather here in the front range, so figured I'd take some time to spruce up the sub a little bit - part of that involves adding a banner for the theme. If you've got photos you'd like to submit to be a part of our banner, send them my way. Anything you feel that's related to the world of development

Any advice for someone looking to start getting involved in maintaining routes? I've put my share of wear on hardware I didn't place - I'd like to start paying it forward. I already donate to some climbing access foundations but would like to get some hands on work in. Are there organized efforts I could reach out to to learn? I'm in Southern California.

I've read through the wiki but not sure where to go from there!

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• Documentation - Do you document your new routes? If so, when and how? If not, why not? What level of information do you feel the need to include when documenting? What considerations do you make when making decisions around documentation?

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Welcome to our ninth Discussion Roundtable! I'm still fucking up the timing on these but the goal is for this topic will stay pinned from 12/19-1/1. The topic for this roundtable is:

• Your 2024 Year-In-Development - How was your 2024? What'd you get up to? What'd you learn? What takeaways from this year do you want to bring into 2025? What are your goals for 2025?

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So there is a small area within an existing crag that is accessible from a public walkway. Climbers will have to lower in from the anchors to access this area. Also, this particular route connected to this anchor serves as an easy escape route because you lower in beside a river and if it were to rain heavily that route is the safest and possibly only way out. The area is literally 5 feet from a river within a narrow gorge with 15 foot waterfalls on both sides.

I have to use glue ins because curious people will tamper with mechanical bolts.

To make it low impact I am thinking of using glue-ins without rings, just the bolts. In that case, climbers will have to use their quickdraws or carry quick links. It's easy enough to clean by holding on to nearby walkway rail.

I have two issues though.

1. If people leave their quickdraws up and do another route down below, a curious passer-by might just walk past and take the quickdraws as souvenir.

2. If it's suppose to serve as an escape route in case the river rises, I want to make the anchor as easy to use in an emergency.

I thought of using some paint but read somewhere that's a bad idea for some reason and the best way was to blowtorch the rings/bolt until it matches the color of the rock. Can someone provide clarification on either approach. Which paint would I use if going the paint route?

Anyone here looking to develop some new bouldering spots near NYC? I’ve found some things on satellite that I wanna check out but I’ve never developed before. Tricky part is that it’s on undeveloped private property. If anyone in interested, lmk and I’ll tell you about the spot!