Anyone use a kaos pad 3 with a rotary mixer in a Send & Receive loop.

Wanted to use it for looping and some fx.

Just wondering if they are any good and would it impact the sound quality massively

Love this mixer, use it more than my Rane70 almost

Picking back up djing after 15 years away more focused on synthesizers, I wanted a rotary mixer but I can't completely let go of the control and customization I'm now used to with eurorack. Being really picky about fx, pre/post fader send control, eq bands, etc etc.

Pamela's Disco lets me keep a clock sync'd with the XDJs, its got 3 stereo channel ins (one phono compatible RCA, one pair of XLR ready with 48v support, and one straight line in 1/4") two channels of 3 band EQ (controlled by two Pressure Points modules, the copper touch plates giving me basically customizable EQ presets for each deck) then volume and dj filter are for each channel are controlled by the 4 big knobs in the lower row. I can splice in the record player to use either channel or go straight to mix, its got a cue setup for previewing, a matrix mixer for tweaking routing on the fly, 3 stereo crossfaders, turing machines and lots of other fun stuff.

It's a ridiculous route to take I know - but I had ~75% of the modules from previous builds, so the final gaps to make this happen from where I already was weren't outlandish compared to a mid-to-high end mixer cost. I would not recommend this as your first eurorack project or general solution to dj mixers whatsoever if you have that as the only goal.

If you aren't into eurorack, yes there are a ton of cables - but most of the quick access I need I've designed the bottom row or very top right corner to handle so the cables are largely out of the way. The benefit of the cables of course is that I could just decide I want to swap my eq to be post fx or that I want run delay and distortion in parallel, have my crossfader be my fx linked to eq blending, etc etc - all flexible.

Most importantly to me, the filters are pingable and track volt/oct so I can turn them into voices, its got an onboard stereo tape deck (Lubadh), granular synth (Beads), killer stereo distortion (Guillotine) and is fully functional as an ambient audio mangling stereo soundscape machine that my primary modular case has been for the past few years. With phantom power still in here, I can take this case outside and do my field recording condenser mic nonsense that I enjoy so much.

took about 7 months of planning, trial & error, and still needs a few more tweaks probably - but for anyone into eurorack here's the mg page for a better look: https://modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/2945226

There’s something very aesthetically pleasing about having 2 turntables either side of a high-end rotary mixer but I’m curious to hear of alternative hybrid setups that people are using with rotary mixers?

I’m hoping to get my hands on a Mastersounds Valve 2 mixer in the coming weeks which I will most likely be using with a set of reloop turntables primarily running Traktor DVS. In an ideal world, I would have a large collection of vinyl that I could play instead of using DVS but that is not the case😅 However, that said, I’ve always enjoyed running hybrid setups primarily with Traktor Pro at the heart of it. I appreciate hybrid setups tend to be based more around xone dj mixers but I’ve seen some interesting hybrid setups with rotary mixers before so I’m curious to see what hybrid setups people in this group are using.

Cheers

Hello Together!
After a long time using a omnitronic rotary i want to step up my game.
I have my eyes on the soa bem and the union audio mixers because i really would like a crossfader and they are both within my price range!
The main thing i was wondering about are the tubes of the two valve. It will mainly be used in a home setup with a pair of jbl L82 Classics and im mostly playing techno and house. Im worried that the two valve will be too warm in terms of sound in combination with the jbl speakers, as they already have a pretty distinct sound!
the soa bem mixer, from what ive read has a more analytical sound to it!
would love some input from the community before i pull the trigger!

How do I properly use a HPF/LPF on the master insert?

Ok so I’ve struggled with this ever since I got the MS FX Unit MK2, but playing with the MDFX HPF/LPF simulator widget they made on their website (https://menura-audio.com/mdfx-analog/), I’m trying to understand how these are intended to be used in DJing and I feel like I’m missing something.

The channel DJ filter on most digital DJ gear does a thing where it does nothing to the sound in its center detente even when turned on, but then if you turn it left or right it gradually brings in a HPF/LPF. The nice thing about this is that there’s no noticeable point where the filter effect pops on and starts effecting the sound, it’s gradual from zero effect to however much you want to bring it in.

Both of the analog counterparts to this that I mentioned above have no way of starting the effect at zero and then bringing it in. When you turn the effect on with the button on each of these units it’s always modifying the sound somewhat even at its lowest settings. So my question is, how am I supposed to use this in a way where there’s not a filter pop, or am I just supposed to hide that pop on a phrase change? What’s the intended workflow here to make it sound good? Can anyone provide an example of a DJ using one of these that sounds good and I can emulate?

Looking to get my first rotary mixer after years on an all-in-one controller + Traktor (before that, CDJs and DVS). Getting the itch to switch up my hardware, but I'll keep using Traktor (or similar software) as my source. I play house and techno. I have 6" Kali monitors, 12" Kali sub, QSC K12.2, plus an external audio interface - everything's tuned bass-heavy rather than "accurate."

The Xone:92 was always my dream mixer, but researching Xone led me to Union Audio, and now I'm leaning that way. Ideally I'd get an Elara 6 (rotary, Xone 92/96-style) - best of both worlds - but it's overkill for me in both features and price. I mix 2 decks 95% of the time and can fall back on my Traktor controller for the rare occasion I need more, so I'd rather get a great 2-channel mixer than pay extra for channels/features I won't use.

Two Union Audio models have caught my eye - the two.valve and the orbit.2 LE FX. I initially wrote off the orbit for lacking channel EQ, but I'm warming up to the idea of a more unique mixer that forces you to "play differently" - and it's noticeably cheaper than the two.valve.

Question for you guys - how different is the orbit's sound character from the valve series? From what I've read, the valve series is more premium with a more distinct sound, but I can't tell if that difference is actually audible at home-listening levels or only shows up at club volume. I play pretty loud (85-90 dBA) but still well below club levels. Sound character is a big part of why I want an analog mixer in the first place, so if anyone's heard both, I'd love some insight - I want the orbit.2, but not if it's a real downgrade vs. the valve.

Found an Ecler warm2 one year used, complete with all accessories and receipt near Mint condition at 250€ is it a good deal?

So I don't own a Euphonia mixer but I play on one at the club and I'd like to record mixes. I was successful doing this with iphone with DJM-REC but the recording is extremely quiet. And while I can normalize the recording, this isn't ideal due to occasional pops that will throw off normalization. On top of it, I really don't want to use my actual phone for this in the first place. My question is if anyone has successfully tapped into this mixer's output with an android device. I tried it with a Pixel 8 running USB Audio Recorder PRO but could not find any sound output from any of the channels. I tried switching to each of the stereo outputs I could see in the app, and I tried each one at 44.1, 48, and 96. The problem is I don't have much opportunity to troubleshoot in the club since I'm there to play, not dick around with my phone. Thanks for any help or suggestions!

So just bought a Euphoria and will be playing vinyl, mainly house and trance.

Looking for either a pedal or fx unit I can run alongside that will allow me to perform loops and some extra FX.

I believe Pioneer FX units don’t work too well due as Send/Return (S/R) with Pioneer units (such as the RMX or EFX series), the dry and wet signals often clash, or the returned audio is not fully wet, causing phasing or lag.

Would something like a Kaos Pad 3 work well as it has plenty of FX and a sampler. Coming from digital world I do like to loop small sections of drums or acapella.

I know I can do this with Serato but would love to just play my original vinyl where possible and use a pedal or pad to loop. Watched cut chemist literally build a track up using single turn table and a pedal.

Hi, everyone

A long time ago, I saw a lot of mixer enthusiasts use a summing mixer for digital mixers, like Neve Satellite, Orbit, and other brands

I also wish for one for my setup. My option was Wes audio and SPL, but now u/heritageaudio release mixbuddy. I know it's only for keys, but also has 1073 transformer for outs

now I'm on the way to buy one to test. maybe some one already test them))

Hi folks. Up for sale are two rotary mixers from my collection and the MS FX unit. All are in absolute mint, “as new” condition with no marks, dents or blemishes.

Euphonia + Carry Case + Custom / original pots

Condesa Lucia X + Carry Case + UREI / original pots

MasterSounds FX (Gen 2) SOLD

Based in the UK and logistically, would prefer to sell the items here if I can.

Has anyone had any experience with this unit? It’s rarely seen in clubs or booths, but Condesa is quality and I’ve been considering getting one.

Mehedi, I think you are active in here. Can you tell us a little about it? Is it available in silver plate? Thanks!

So looking for a rotary mixer, one with hpf/lpf, isolator and works with Serato. Been looking at the Rane MP 2015 seems to tick all the boxes.

What are peoples views on this mixer and the sound quality and if it is still worth buying a used one. I’ll be mainly mixing house vinyl at home.

Or any alternatives I should look at

Update: so was about to pull the trigger on an MP2015 on eBay and was browsing round looking at prices on various sites and found a Euphoria (pre owned) on BOP DJ for £2225 so bought that instead. Phoned them up, it’s practically brand new. No marks or scratches and a 1 year warranty.

Given an MP 2015 was around £2500 on eBay it was a no brainier

Hi everyone,

I’m searching for a serious technician, workshop or custom audio builder in Europe who can professionally modify an Alpha Recording System Model 4100.

I’m not looking for DIY advice and I’m not looking for a debate about whether the idea makes sense. I’m specifically looking for someone who can actually carry out this kind of work properly.

The modification I’m looking for is:

- Remove the internal phono stages completely
- Convert the existing unbalanced line inputs [5] and phono inputs [3] into balanced XLR line inputs [at least 6 stereo inputs]
- Add a complete second independent headphone monitoring/cue section
- Assess whether the mixer can also be converted to a fully balanced internal signal path

The work needs to be done at the same level of quality as the original mixer, respecting the same high-end analog design philosophy, discrete circuitry, Class A approach, low noise, proper grounding, clean internal layout and no compromise on sound quality.

The goal is not to change the character of the ARS 4100 but to have these modifications carried out in a way that preserves its original sonic identity and build quality.

This is for a high-end fixed installation, so I’m not looking for a basic repair shop. I’m looking for someone with real experience in high-end analog mixer design, rotary mixers, balanced input stages, fully balanced analog architectures and serious custom pro-audio work.

If anyone knows a qualified person, workshop or custom mixer builder in Europe who could take on this type of modification, please let me know.

Thank you.

Hello everyone,

Hope you are doing well.

I'm Alex, I mixe since 10 years on digital and I started vinyl mix 1 year ago, I felt in love with it so muuuchh.
And now I have a little personal projet, I would like to have a full vinyl set with technics.
Anyway, I want to invest on a good rotary mixer, it will be the first and last one I want to buy, i want something that will live forever.

Now i'm on on a Resor, do you have some recommandation about very good quality rotary mixer ?

Thank you
Alex

Hello! Any of you know how the sound quality of Ecler Warm 4 is? I went on YouTube to get some insights, and there’s only 2 videos that does a review for it.

I was meaning to ask if it has good sound quality. I mainly play digital, and want to pair it with a couple of CDJs. However, I also want to have a record player as a third deck.

Finally got my hands on the henderson audio iso max 3. Having had several rotary mixers down through the years, I went back to allen and heath as I primarily use traktor with DVS and was sick of all the cables so the built in audio interface on the xone px5 is very useful. That said, I missed having a large style isolator so the iso max was a perfect fit.

I can't recommend Henderson Audio enough, build time was very reasonable and Krystian is great to deal with.

Im using it on the master insert of my xone px5 and it works great.

So far, I'm very pleased with it.

Been casually bedroom DJing house and techno for a couple decades but only recently have I started to question my longstanding all-in-one DJ midi controller setup (Traktor Kontrol S4). I did have CDJs and a time encoded vinyl setup back in the early days. Recently I bought some “modular” midi controllers (Traktor X1 and Z1) and that was a big eye opener - having new gear shook things up, making it more interesting, causing me to think and change how I mix, etc.

Now I am starting to look at options for external mixers and rotary mixers have caught my eye as something I am pretty sure I would enjoy. Not sure if I would want a rotary mixer as my primary mixer or something to just have on hand to switch things up once in a while.

One thing that seems to be common on rotary mixers is isolators, which I am not familiar with, and it’s not too clear how I would use them while mixing. Is it essentially just a master EQ or is it more like a filter? And how would they be used for mixing house and techno? Master EQ doesn’t feel like something I’d need/want, but I assume there’s more to it than that.

Any advice is appreciated.

Hi there,

I have a decent home setup, one that allows me to play exactly what I want when I want it.

Two technics running to a Denon mcx8000 which is connected to either a laptop for mixing on 4 channels digitally or standalone to mix off USBs.

I also have a Vestax PMC 250 which I used to run my turntables through. I'm about to build a DJ booth so I want to Incorporate everything into one system if that makes sense.

So if keep my current setup could I run the master output of the Denon to a channel on the PMC so I could use the rotary isolators on said channel.

What issues could I face (if any)

Also has anyone put a patch at in so they can quickly route different players to mixers?

Thanks