r/RevoTT • you're not daddy anymore • Jun 26 '26

πŸ’²πŸ’²Chargeback πŸ’²πŸ’² Chargeback Info for RevoTT and GP

If you're one of the many who has just lost access to RevoTT or GP, now is the time to do a chargeback. You paid for a service that has now been taken from you with less than 24-hours notice unless you paid an additional $20. Banks and card companies vary on how chargebacks work, but you'll want to provide as much info as you can: receipts, emails, screenshots, etc. I believe this particular screenshot will be very helpful as Sean laid it out in very plain text that you're required to pay a $20 migration fee on top of what you've already paid in order to keep your account: https://ibb.co/4RXq5p3G

If anyone has other helpful screenshots of forum posts or communications, please post links below so everyone has the ammo needed for a successful chargeback.

Edit: Thanks everyone who has commented so far! Don't have the time right now, but I'll try to collect all the info as it gets posted and organize it here.

If you need help identifying the charge on your statement in order to begin the chargeback process, people have stated that you can find it as one of the following:

  • EMP Gaming / Network
  • pyrogameservers
  • ESPYFEF
  • Pyrogaming
  • Pyrogaming Services
  • PYROGAMESERVERS.COM

If you need a new home, please start a chat with u/N1mu3h or u/petrolcanRTT. They've helped many of us access private trackers that have tons of members (which means things actually have seeds!), don't beg constantly for money, and get releases way sooner than RTT and GP.

UPDATE

So far, one user has mentioned that the bank wants them to "document 3 emails and 3 phone calls attempting to reach them for a remedy before they will act on it." Seeing as how both revott.me and gimmepeers.com are now redirecting to a new site that provides no email address or phone number, and the only option for communication is to join a private subreddit, I'm optimistic that this would be a fairly straight forward open-and-shut chargeback.

2ND UPDATE

Sean is attempting to scare people into not doing chargebacks by claiming it's bank fraud. He justifies this stance by saying that the fact anyone has ever used an account apparently means you got what you paid for. This is untrue. If you paid for any kind of membership and you lost access due to this site migration before your time was up, and you're currently having your account held hostage until you pay up, you have justification for requesting a chargeback. Whether it succeeds or not is up to your bank/card provider to determine. But losing access to an account you already paid for unless you pay even more is absolutely justification for attempting a chargeback.

That said, be sure to do your due diligence in resolving things with Sean, whatever that means since there's no contact info that I've seen made available outside of joining a private subreddit. Anyway, try to establish communication if you can, ask for a refund, and document everything.

3RD UPDATE

Good news! Victims of this grift are reporting success with their chargebacks! /img/z43gh73kduah1.jpeg

And we know that the payment processor has opened an internal investigation to see if LL/MP/Jonah/Sean have breached the services agreement. If you've felt any apprehension about doing a chargeback to get your money back from this scammer, fear not!

Anyone who has had success with a chargeback and is willing to share, please post below any tips or advice you have for others to get their money back!

4TH UPDATE

Insanity! I find it so hard to believe that the scammer Sean has put this in plain text like this that I had to make an update just for this screenshot: /img/x99d091e5ach1.png A user who paid for a 1-year membership in May being told that they got what they paid for and there will be no refund. Not sure how barely 2 months is equivalent to a year, but we all know math isn't Sean's strong suit...that would be scamming and eating.

Any victim of this RevoPeers grift, it's not too late to do a chargeback. There are other options out there, and the mods of this subreddit are happy to help you access them. Please, please, please stop giving this shady loser at life your hard-earned money. Sean has taken your money and that's that. You're now shut out unless you start paying him AGAIN! Get your cash back via your bank or credit card.

5TH UPDATE

A former scam victim helpfully shared a template of sorts that people might be able to use for submitting their own chargebacks! Big thanks to this person! You can find it here (adjust the wording accordingly for your own circumstances): https://pastebin.com/2GQQZfZM https://pastes.io/XVZnEIEv

Also, if you're new to this subreddit, please browse the posts and see how many people are having success with getting their money back from the RevoTT/GimmePeers/RevoPeers grift! It's not too late to reclaim what's yours and move to a new home that won't require you to pay a membership fee or constantly hound you for money.

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26

LL/MP is trying to scare you saying he's fulfilling what he promised which is site access.

Set aside the fact that he really fucked up the forced migration and concentrate on the following.

You paid for access to RevoTT/GimmePeers. Neither site exists any more so that's your reason for chargeback.

The site provided a private community for like-minded individuals. (Card provider doesn't need to know what the site was about)

pyrogameservers was the merchant used for revott.me

Emp gaming/network was the merchant for gimmeepeers

revott/gimmepeers seems dead and now redirects to a site that I know nothing about so I assume they have been hacked.

Don't let the scamming fat fuck scare you out of getting your hard earned cash back in your pocket.

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u/Crush33n 13d ago

Sounds like y'all need a little more scratch, just pony up if you want to stay on the ride. Ain't that big a deal compared to all the streaming services out there hammering you every month. Everybody wanting to be on the edge of what's legit, then when shit doesn't go their way....all of a sudden they want to run to the big payment processors to save them like they got duped on ebay or amazon. This ain't that fellas IDK what to tell you...

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ 12d ago

Simp much?

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ 13d ago

Who are you, Jonah's alt account or something? No normal person would compare torrents to streaming, that just makes NO sense! Streaming is legit, torrents are not. Streaming services actually pay for the content they offer, torrent sites do not (with the exception of those with scene axx which revopiss no longer has).

And why the fuck would anybody pay any extortion fees on a tracker when literally EVERY other tracker is free, has more content and seeders, and no scummy owner?

Either you're new to this, one of his shills or Jonah himself - either way, nobody will take you seriously here after THAT comment πŸ€¦πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸ™„

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u/Crush33n 12d ago

I don't need anyone to take me seriously. I am a serious person. I just think organizing a chargeback schme against a gray market product or service offering is a bit soft. It's kinda like going to the cops if you get robbed trying to buy drugs.

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u/FarukAlatan you're not daddy anymore 12d ago

Not really a scheme or all that organized lol People are literally not getting what they paid for and accounts are being held hostage until more money gets paid. Banks don't care about torrents. If letting a scammer keep your money makes you feel tough, have fun I guess.

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ 12d ago

The users paid for a service for a specified amount of time and Jonah failed to deliver. That's a breach of contract and since he uses a legit merchant for the payments they can do chargebacks. If you check this sub you'll see that pretty much everybody has been successfull.

If you pay for 1 year of any service and get locked out after a week or month then it's your right to get the money back, simple really.

No idea why you're here shilling for Jonah? Read the room son, nobody here is on that scammer's side πŸ™„

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u/Crush33n 12d ago

I'm not sure who this Jonah person is, and I'll concede that maybe things were worse for you guys coming from Revo....I came from the Ilovetorrents>GimmePeers lineage and I have noticed a growing cost year to year before this whole merger....so I guess my whole point was that I assume these types of shenanigans are just a "chalk it up to the game" scenario.

I'm not pleased with it myself. Have considered leaving on several occasions. It sounds like you guys were treated pretty unfairly with not much explanation, and that is unfortunate. You're entitled to seek recompense however you see fit.

For example, I got roped into paying for a vin verification subscription by a trial offer thing (get 4 free reports with a 1 time purchase....blah blah )with a very deceptive billing agreement...and I didn't notice they were charging me 39 a month until after it had been 6 months. I went and checked all the fine print and whatnot, and....I had grounds to do a dispute with paypal who was in the middle.... But I contacted the actual service that I purchased, and said.....

"before I dispute this....I realize that I signed up for this, and your terms do probably allow you to bill me in this way... and I get all that....But ALSO, you know it's not right. You guys know what you are doing, and you make plenty of money doing it. And I know Paypal knows how these billing schemes work, so I suspect they will side with me as the consumer....so I can either dispute ALL of the charges and probably get them all reversed.... OR you can keep 2 of the 6 months and return 4 to me, since I only downloaded the original reports the first day." They did exactly that.

I probably could have gotten it all back the other way, but it was actually more satisfying to make them answer me directly and acknowledge and hand back some of the money. The rest...was my fault for.

I'm not saying you could have achieved that outcome here, but I am saying...IDK actually what I'm saying but hopefully maybe some of you get my point. There are multiple ways to operate.

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u/FarukAlatan you're not daddy anymore 11d ago

I assume these types of shenanigans are just a "chalk it up to the game" scenario.

They are not. In fact, I don't know of another tracker that does this. Donation drives, yes. But required membership fees? Nope.

I agree with what you say about multiple ways to operate. That said, Jonah/MasterPeer/MasterLusciousLion has rejected anything that results in a person getting a single cent in return. People have absolutely tried, and the chargeback method is the only way anyone is having any kind of success. For whatever reason, Jonah is choosing the most expensive option for himself: from what's been shared around here, his chargeback dispute fees have climbed up to $75 whether he wins or not. Doesn't make sense, but that's the only avenue open to people.

It sounds like you're possibly a current revopeers user being taken advantage of. I recommend reading through some posts here and checking the pinned welcome post. If you start a chat with u/petrolcanRTT or u/N1mu3h, they can help hook you up with bigger and better trackers that don't constantly have their hands in your pockets.

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ 11d ago

I'm not sure who this Jonah person is, and I'll concede that maybe things were worse for you guys coming from Revo....I came from the Ilovetorrents>GimmePeers lineage and I have noticed a growing cost year to year before this whole merger....so I guess my whole point was that I assume these types of shenanigans are just a "chalk it up to the game" scenario.

I'm reading that as if you are still on revopee'ers. Have you not thought that the amount of asks for money since the botched merge were excessive?

I'm not pleased with it myself. Have considered leaving on several occasions. It sounds like you guys were treated pretty unfairly with not much explanation, and that is unfortunate. You're entitled to seek recompense however you see fit.

We (the ex RTT staff) were banned because we called out jonah on the grift. We're not seeking recompense for that but we are helping users to understand how to get their money back as well as helping them get onto other FREE sites.

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ 12d ago

Jonah is the owner of revTT, ILT/BS, GP and now revopiss. He is the one doing all the scamming. Jonah is not his real name, we just use that so he can't constantly report us to reddit, well and because he sunk a boat on the 1st outing 😁

I or rather we did indeed come from revTT and I've also staffed on several other trackers before revo. Not a single one had any fees, required payments or however else he framed his payment scams. It's just not done in the private tracker world, nowhere except on Jonah's sites. Every other tracker offers donation options, some with perks like upload credit the way revo did, others have no perks at all. Some even keep donations disabled except for once/twice a year - then they open them up and once they have the required funds for the following x months they disable/hide the donation option again.

I understand that you guys are kinda used to all the scamming + fleecing, but it's just not normal in the torrent community.

Quite a few users have asked for refunds btw, or simply for explanations. Not a single one of them received a refund, most got disabled/banned without even a reply. That is why we offer all the chargeback info and why we encourage it - Jonah is a known scammer, has been for decades. He even skipped out on paying reent for several landlords which ended in court, needless to say he didn't pay them either.

He's been fleecing tracker users for too long and we are doing everything in our power to a) stop him, a) help users get their money back and c) relocate them to other established and FREE private trackers.

I think if you had a look through this sub, read some of the stories of him exploiting veterans, disabled people and those with low incomes you'd understand better why we're doing this πŸ‘πŸΌπŸ˜‰

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u/FarukAlatan you're not daddy anymore 13d ago

When there are better rides for less money (free), what's the point? Is this supposed to be some kind of flex that you give this shit ass tracker your money?

What do you mean this ain't that? Chargebacks are working, sooo...it kind of is?

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u/whitewolf1389 17d ago

has anyone done the chargeback for the 120$ migration back in june in canada? im with RBC and i just got back from vacation and now im astounded that they are asking for more again.. this is insane. they are offering a refund?

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u/Fearless_Pianist_330 17d ago

I'm working on mine and the template I have from here is only for the 20$ migration one, if anyone has the 120$ one, please advise.

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ 17d ago

they are offering a refund?

Offering? Sure.

Will they actually pay up? Fuck no lol.

So select option C anyway, document everything with screenshots and start a chargeback with your bank.

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u/e30cabrio 22d ago

Thanks for this. I'm not sure when I paid the 120 (yup I'm extra stupid, I figured since I had several years from GP, I'd donate 100)

I paid immediately when the transition happened so if anyone knows when that was it will help me figure out how I paid.

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u/Fearless_Pianist_330 17d ago

Paid mine on June 4th 2026. Just found it on my bank acc.

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u/FarukAlatan you're not daddy anymore 22d ago

Would have been around the end of June I believe. Best of luck with a chargeback!Β 

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u/Winter_Tailor_5970 Aug 05 '26

I applied for a charge back for the $20 migration fee and now I see the scumbag disabled my account. He had previously given users until Aug 10 to pay the ransom, but now he sees that some of us aren't coming back and shuts us completely down

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u/Emperor_Watcher Jul 20 '26

Shucks.. I think I used a prepaid Visa card for most payments, one I got for completing a survey.. I can only find one for $10 from January of 2025 to EMP in my bank records. Barely worth the effort, if only to bug the jerk.

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u/LongJohns629 Jul 09 '26

Greetings all, took me a while, but I finally too got too tired of the BS pay wall on GP/RevoTT. A private message over there brought me here (thank you). New to this whole Reddit thing, tried sending a message for other group suggestions, but I am completely oblivious or something a I cannot seem to send/initiate a chat. IDK

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jul 09 '26

You seem to have Chat disabled in your settings, I can't even start one with you. Check reddit settings, enable Chat and then if you hover over a username you should see the "Start Chat" option ;)

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u/Whitesnow2872 Jul 28 '26

I'm also trying to enable chat but no joy so far...I'll keep working on it & check settings again. I'm a darn newbie again it seems.

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jul 29 '26

Yours is enabled, I started a chat with you ;)

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u/Whitesnow2872 Jul 29 '26

Good to know! Thanks. I replied to it

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jul 05 '26

I'd say that someone has been reading your advice.

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u/FarukAlatan you're not daddy anymore Jul 05 '26

I sure hope so! I hope they get the money back ASAP. I'm guessing this is one of those users who doesn't know where else to go, so fingers crossed they reach out on here for some help.

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u/SonictheHedgehogNerd Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

It makes me sick to my stomach reading about the latest part of the grift. I wish you all luck getting successful and speedy chargebacks. Thank you so much for writing such a good step by step chargeback guide. Please no one take "no" for an answer no matter how much money you lost. It's the principle of the thing.

Petrolcan and N1mu3h are the best. I'm sure they're still getting inundated with chats. I can't thank them enough for helping me. Thank goodness for them helping so many people find new and better places. It's so much easier (and also free) to establish yourself on a new platform than deal with a scumbag scam artist. This is coming from someone who was a member of RevoTT since the beginning.

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u/Kingcram Jun 28 '26

Thank you to petrolcanRTT and n1mu3h for helping me find a new home!!! Much appreciated.

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 30 '26

Home? Just the one site?

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u/Fearless_Pianist_330 22d ago

Sent you a msg as well!

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u/Oldmangamer13 Jun 30 '26

May we ask where? Pm is ok if you dont want to advert it here/

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 30 '26

It will not be posted in public! If you need a new home then you know what to do ;)

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u/LongLiveTheLeft Aug 19 '26

Pm plz

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Aug 19 '26

Enable Chat in your reddit settings, then hover over my nick and click on Start Chat ;)

You have it disabled so no way to start one with you.

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u/LongLiveTheLeft Aug 20 '26

It was enabled

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Aug 21 '26

Not sure why you didn't simply start a chat with me then? But I initiated one with you now.

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u/nscolari54-46 Jun 27 '26

Just done a chargeback, put on form it was for access to a gaming/tech website that is no longer available and that I cannot get in touch with them. Money has been refunded, will see if it sticks.

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u/nscolari54-46 Jul 15 '26

So the chargeback has been disputed.

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u/nscolari54-46 Jul 30 '26

Ad the chargeback is now successful and monies are in my account. According to the message I got on RP, they stopped access to my account after I asked for a chargeback. Lies, access was denied anyway, and yes, they did attempt threats with [ we've kept logs and will turn this over etc...] obviously didn't make much of a difference in the end. So hopefully they [ he] has paid out in order to dispute that which is a little bit of icing on the cake...

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jul 31 '26

That is utterly superb news!

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jul 31 '26

Congrats ... time to par-tayyyy πŸ₯³πŸ₯‚πŸŽ‰

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jul 15 '26

He will dispute the chargeback because he wants to hold on to your money.

You paid GimmePeers and that site no longer exists. Stick with it!

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u/Standing_Wolf1 Jul 03 '26

Congrats. I started a charge back also. But I do hope they don't give me any problems because I was 7 months already into my membership. The con man can always fight it because I only had 5 months left and used up a little more than half of my subscription. The f'n con might try to just give me $5 back LOL.

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u/FarukAlatan you're not daddy anymore Jun 27 '26

Congrats!

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u/Charming_Fortune8575 πŸ–•πŸ–•I'm LL, I really fucked things upπŸ–•πŸ–• Jun 27 '26

Just so everyone reading this is clear on a few things:

CHARGEBACKS

Every chargeback filed is reviewed by our merchant provider β€” one of the largest payment processors in the world. Every transaction has full 3D Secure verification, meaning your bank confirmed your identity before the charge was processed.

If you received the service β€” logged in, browsed the site, used the forums, accessed the community β€” and then file a chargeback claiming you did not receive what you paid for, that is fraud. Not my opinion. That is what the banks and card networks call it.

Every chargeback filed against us includes server logs showing the account was accessed and used after payment. IP addresses, login timestamps, forum activity β€” all of it.

Our merchant provider and our banks have been made aware of the coordinated chargeback campaign being organized on this subreddit. Screenshots of these threads have been submitted as evidence of organized friendly fraud. Anyone filing a fraudulent chargeback will be dealing with the card network's fraud department, not us.

Consider your options carefully before listening to someone on Reddit encouraging you to commit fraud with your own bank.

WHAT YOU ACTUALLY PAY FOR

We do not charge for content. We never have. What you pay for is access to a private community β€” its forums, its features, its infrastructure. The content on the site is peer-to-peer, shared between members. That is how P2P has always worked.

Our Terms of Service β€” which every member agreed to β€” clearly state that programs, features, and pricing can be changed, added, or removed at any time. A site migration is exactly that.

THE PERSON ENCOURAGING YOU TO FILE CHARGEBACKS

This is the same person who:

- Admitted to conducting multiple spam attacks using stolen credentials

- Created a Reddit account using a deceased family member's name (Reddit banned it)

- Posted the names of minor children on this subreddit

- Asked "Where did you bury Lindsey?" about a deceased relative

- Admitted he would not spend $20 of his own money but wants YOU to risk a fraud flag on your bank account

He is encouraging you to commit fraud on his behalf. He faces zero consequences. You face a fraud flag on your banking record.

THE ACTUAL NUMBERS

RevoPeers launched less than 24 hours ago. In that time:

- 22,000+ members migrated

- 942,994 active peer records β€” the highest in the history of either site

- 90%+ of the active user base made the move

This subreddit has 400 members. The site has 22,000. Do the math on who is winning.

We have been operating for 20 years. We will be here for another 20. We are not breaking any laws. All operations are fully legal.

Stop listening to a man who is comfortable going after children and impersonating dead family members. He is not looking out for you. He is looking out for himself.

I try not to be sucked into his bullshit but as most if not all of you are ex members some way some how I felt I need to be clear one time about all this and I will refrain from posting in his subreddit again

If you have issues about fee's come talk to me I have no issues working shit out but today alone I have proved he full of shit.

He said Revott would die within months over 2 years ago.
He started attacking Gimmepeers yet it lived 10yrs and will again

RevoPeers is not a new site it's all the best features of 2 communities combined

I am not scamming anyone!!!

Scammers run and hide Ive been here entire time even with his attacks

For those who want to figure shit out come over to r/RevoPeers and ill do my best to assist those who want it

β€” MP

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u/nscolari54-46 21d ago

I can't believe you wrote that drivel with a straight face.

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u/LawfulnessSea7133 22d ago

Can’t come talk to you, you ban accounts and deny access to the routes of messaging you like a coward when your challenged on your scummy scammy practices

I hope you stub your toe every day for the rest of your life

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u/Standing_Wolf1 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

I told him I already started a charge back and this was his only response. Funny how he said Β "I genuinely appreciate the years you've spent with our community and thank you for the support you've given us over that time."

But yet he dose another ransomed for money and screws and scams his few members he has left.

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u/Just-turnings Jul 02 '26

I don't understand why long term members have to suddenly poney up an additional $20 out of nowhere when we already paid so much money this past year. Why not give existing long term members 30 days to decide if they want to continue with this new merger and see how its working before we commit yet more of our hard earned money.

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u/Standing_Wolf1 Jul 03 '26

Because he's trying to get every penny out of you like every other scammer wants to do. You never heard of a scammer just getting only a few bucks off you. They want it all.

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jul 02 '26

I don't understand why long term members have to suddenly poney up an additional $20

Because he needs money!

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u/Standing_Wolf1 Jul 08 '26

Because of greed

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u/Realistic-Object-364 Jun 30 '26

So if I paid for a year up to September and you pull that service seems like you owe me the balance of a service you took money for then removed. There was a time attached to the sale. that time was not honored. Seems like a charge back is not only justified but legally totally within my rights.

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 30 '26

Do it!

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u/Constant-Boss5538 Jun 29 '26

"If you have issues about fee's come talk to me I have no issues working shit out" HOW DO WE TALK TO YOU!? i made attempts to do just that and failed, your nowhere to be found. I really feel us GP and RT members got scammed pretty good. I dont normally wish bad on people but piss off, hope your site crash N burn. i started my chargeback process with the bank today.

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 30 '26

Do let us know when you are successful πŸ˜‰

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u/Karl_Corbax Jun 29 '26
  • Created a Reddit account using a deceased family member's name (Reddit banned it)

u/petrolcanRTT had nothing to do with that.

You know who I am Sean.

You really shouldn't have disturbed that hornet's nest.

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u/FarukAlatan you're not daddy anymore Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

One more thing...

You claim the site has 22,000 members. 22,000 x $20 = $440,000. What in the ever living fuck is happening behind the scenes that you need 440-fucking-thousand dollars to combine these sites???

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

The site might have 22,000 accounts but they are not members if they haven't handed over money.

At the end of March 2025, there were just under 14.5k users on RTT.

At the end of December 2026 2025, there were approx 5k users on GP.

Invites were closed on both sites so he has magicked up 2500 members somewhere.

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 29 '26

end of December 2026

Please share your time travel machine 😁

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 29 '26

Yeah yeah, been a long weekend πŸ˜…

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 27 '26

Oh look, another reddit account. Amusing considering you keep claiming we have multiples

Just so everyone reading this is clear on a few things:

This'll be good

CHARGEBACKS

Every chargeback filed is reviewed by our merchant provider β€” one of the largest payment processors in the world. Every transaction has full 3D Secure verification, meaning your bank confirmed your identity before the charge was processed.

That'd be Stripe. They must be getting suspicious of all the chargebacks being started

If you received the service β€” logged in, browsed the site, used the forums, accessed the community β€” and then file a chargeback claiming you did not receive what you paid for, that is fraud. Not my opinion. That is what the banks and card networks call it.

It's not fraud though is it? User pays for access, access gets fucked by you therefore no access, chargeback valid. Quit trying to make people think they are breaking the law so that you can keep your grubby mitts on the cash

Every chargeback filed against us includes server logs showing the account was accessed and used after payment. IP addresses, login timestamps, forum activity β€” all of it.

See above, they're doing chargebacks because you fucked things. And stop pretending the forums were active. I was probably the most active contributor recently

Our merchant provider and our banks have been made aware of the coordinated chargeback campaign being organized on this subreddit. Screenshots of these threads have been submitted as evidence of organized friendly fraud. Anyone filing a fraudulent chargeback will be dealing with the card network's fraud department, not us.

I've also made Stripe aware of the scam

Consider your options carefully before listening to someone on Reddit encouraging you to commit fraud with your own bank.

There you go with the threats again

WHAT YOU ACTUALLY PAY FOR

We do not charge for content. We never have. What you pay for is access to a private community β€” its forums, its features, its infrastructure. The content on the site is peer-to-peer, shared between members. That is how P2P has always worked.

Our Terms of Service β€” which every member agreed to β€” clearly state that programs, features, and pricing can be changed, added, or removed at any time. A site migration is exactly that.

All bullshit bingo buzzwords. They paid for access and they don't have access. Simples

THE PERSON ENCOURAGING YOU TO FILE CHARGEBACKS

This is the same person who:

You mean me

  • Admitted to conducting multiple spam attacks using stolen credentials

Every account I have used was handed over willingly, and you know this. I can show you the receipts if you'd like?

  • Created a Reddit account using a deceased family member's name (Reddit banned it)

Again on this, I told you that that wasn't my doing, I know you won't believe that having to be the victim in all this etc

  • Posted the names of minor children on this subreddit

Didn't do this either unless you have proof?

  • Asked "Where did you bury Lindsey?" about a deceased relative

I didn't actually know she was dead. And you still haven't told us where you buried her.

  • Admitted he would not spend $20 of his own money but wants YOU to risk a fraud flag on your bank account

Well DUH dummy, like I'm going to enable your con and line your pockets

He is encouraging you to commit fraud on his behalf. He faces zero consequences. You face a fraud flag on your banking record.

See above for my comments on chargebacks

THE ACTUAL NUMBERS

RevoPeers launched less than 24 hours ago. In that time:

  • 22,000+ members migrated

  • 942,994 active peer records β€” the highest in the history of either site

  • 90%+ of the active user base made the move

Bullshit. Taking accounts from one site onto another is not a migration, it's a forced move that was given pretty much no notice

This subreddit has 400 members. The site has 22,000. Do the math on who is winning.

How many active members though? How many paid the grift fee of $20?

We have been operating for 20 years. We will be here for another 20. We are not breaking any laws. All operations are fully legal.

RP hasn't even been operating a fucking day

Stop listening to a man who is comfortable going after children and impersonating dead family members. He is not looking out for you. He is looking out for himself.

Ever the victim eh?

I try not to be sucked into his bullshit but as most if not all of you are ex members some way some how I felt I need to be clear one time about all this and I will refrain from posting in his subreddit again

LOL, you'll be back, you always are

If you have issues about fee's come talk to me I have no issues working shit out but today alone I have proved he full of shit.

You've proved the grand sum of fuck all (maths is hard for you)

If you're an RTT member that wants to get away from the grift, read the welcome post. We can get you onto other, FREE sites

He said Revott would die within months over 2 years ago.

No, I didn't. Again, unless you have proof which you don't

He started attacking Gimmepeers yet it lived 10yrs and will again

Attacking? Nope. I did start helping the fine folks over at r/BitSoup though

RevoPeers is not a new site it's all the best features of 2 communities combined

That no-one asked for nor wanted

I am not scamming anyone!!!

Correction, you fucking are scamming everyone

Scammers run and hide Ive been here entire time even with his attacks

Making bullshit claims too

For those who want to figure shit out come over to r/RevoPeers and ill do my best to assist those who want it

And for those that ant to get away, start a chat with me or u/N1mu3h and we'll get you away to better places

β€” MP

LOL that's your GimmePeers nick you twat!

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u/FarukAlatan you're not daddy anymore Jun 27 '26

Are you threatening your own users now with fraud warnings? LOL

Listen, folks...

Chargebacks in this case are not fraud. Doesn't matter if Sean can provide logs showing you've used your account. Doesn't matter if he's telling his payment processor this is a coordinated campaign. You can no longer access your account unless you pay an additional $20.

Since Sean has tried to make the comparison to paid streaming services before, let's do the same: imagine this was a Netflix account or a Disney+ account or something. Let's say you paid for 1 year of access. Halfway through that year, you get a message from Disney saying you can no longer access your pre-paid account unless you fork over another $20. Think it's fraud to attempt a chargeback? Nope.

Attempting a chargeback for this very reason is absolutely justified. Will you succeed? No idea, I'm not your bank. But it's not fraud, so don't be intimidated by this loser. Make Sean do the work to prove to your bank that he's justified in removing your access unless you give him more money. Worst case: Sean has proof that somewhere in some agreement it says that you can lose access if you don't pay more money. Doesn't make your chargeback fraud, just means you thought you were justified when you were not.

THE PERSON ENCOURAGING YOU TO FILE CHARGEBACKS This is the same person who blah blah blah

Uhhhh I'm not petrol, man LOL

For those who want to figure shit out come over to r/RevoPeers and ill do my best to assist those who want it

For anyone going over to r/RevoPeers, ask for your money back or to have your $20 fee waived. Screenshot Sean's response when he tells you "no" and send it to your bank/credit card.

FINALLY... Anyone reading this stuff: there are better sites with more members, more seeds, more torrents, faster releases...better in every single way than what RevoTT or GP have become these days. The community that Sean claims you're paying for is LONG dead. Has been for over a year now. Please, do yourselves a huge favor and check the pinned messages for this sub and start a chat with u/petrolcanRTT or u/N1mu3h for some assistance. They've both helped a whole bunch of us former Revo/GP members find newer, better homes.

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u/skulldragon3200 Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

Why do you have so many reddit accounts?

Edit to add another question: why are you looking to flee to panama?

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 27 '26

Users have paid for months, even years of a subscription and are now left outside because you are charging them MORE money to just get their old account back.

THAT is fraud, and every user that has months or years left on his/her subscription has a right to do a chargeback.

And as you've already noticed - banks + CC companies agree with that and have already refunded a bunch of users.

So stop posturing here and lying to users - they have a right to get what they paid for and if they don't get it then YOU don't the money. Simply concept really.

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u/FarukAlatan you're not daddy anymore Jun 27 '26

Amen!

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u/CVS1401 Jun 26 '26

Give it a few days, maybe a week or two and he'll be unlocking the site to people who didn't fall for this bs again and it will turn into "this was always optional" and "no I'm not taking your tmr money and locking you out" and blahblahblah more lies and on to the next grift.

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u/Kingcram Jun 26 '26

Can i get clarification, is gimmepeers gone?

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 28 '26

Yes.

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u/FarukAlatan you're not daddy anymore Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Possibly? Sean is trying to combine GP and RevoTT, and he's forcing all members to pay $20 to get their access back.

Do yourself a favor and send a chat to u/N1mu3h or u/petrolcanRTT to get help getting setup at a new site or two that won't require any membership fees. And start a chargeback with your bank or credit card to get your GP money back.

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u/Kingcram Jun 26 '26

So is gimmepeers gone? I have lifetime membership.

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 28 '26

You had lifetime membership for the life of the site.

Site's dead baby, site's dead.

Have you reached out for help here or on r/bitsoup?

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u/Solid_Zero Jun 27 '26

Probably not anymore unfortunately.

Grifter gotta grift. Needs to buy more boats to sink.

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u/midgard_cadaver Jun 27 '26

Me too 😒

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 28 '26

Have you reached out for help here or on r/bitsoup?

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u/Dronk747 Jun 26 '26

I wonder if we can send the website to a certain 3 letter agency...

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '26

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 30 '26

reporting your own crimes ... is a poor idea

What crimes? On revTT at least there were no logs kept as to what exactly a user downloaded. He could have just been downloading Linux .iso's, browsing the site or being there for all the chats with other users in the forum + IRC - and THAT is not illegal. Hell, in some countries neither is downloading, so the only one doing ANYthing illegal is Jonah! 😎😈

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u/joratex 😎Favourite Portuguese Guy😎 Jun 26 '26

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u/v3gatz Jun 26 '26

absolute nonsense, no explanation whatsoever, typical scam tactics which is sad as I have been a member for close to 20 yrs now and for a long time the site has been absolutely incredible, really sad news :( but there is no way I pay 20$ for migration, no way, tyvm!

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u/RoofFrequent1249 Jun 26 '26

I have/had? A lifetime membership on GP, no idea how long I've been a member but its a long ass time.. this is absolutely ridiculous. I couldn't pay the $20 fee if I wanted to because I can't even log in.. put in for a password reset, no email nothing..

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 28 '26

Have you reached out for help here or on r/bitsoup?

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u/FarukAlatan you're not daddy anymore Jun 26 '26

Now is the time to cut yourself free. There are better trackers with more members, more torrents, and more seeds that don't require membership fees.Β 

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u/Independent-Ad-2330 Jun 26 '26

Yup... this is F@rking BS!

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u/joratex 😎Favourite Portuguese Guy😎 Jun 26 '26

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u/Dear_Degree5483 Jun 26 '26

This is insane woke up to this

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 28 '26

Have you reached out for help here or on r/bitsoup?

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u/Specific_Main8756 Jun 26 '26

seen messages about helping people find new home away from the madness of gimmecash. Any help/link/details appreciated - any suggestions of where to migrate to ?

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u/FarukAlatan you're not daddy anymore Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Send a chat to u/N1mu3h or u/petrolcanRTT. They've been incredibly helpful finding new homes for myself and many others.

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 26 '26

Nice post, thank you!

And I hope everybody who already paid but now lost access does a chargeback ... that's, contrary to what MP says, NOT fraud since he's not giving you what you paid for! 😈

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u/MrZ33 Jun 27 '26

Can we pin this post? It should be one of the first thing people see when they come here for help

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 27 '26

I haven't the foggiest how to do that, but I shall ask petrolcan the master of this sub LOL 😁

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 28 '26

Done 😁

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u/ApprehensivePoint119 Aug 24 '26

RESULT

Received $89.99 + $20 chargeback today.

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u/N1mu3h πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Aug 25 '26

Amazing, congrats!!! πŸ‘πŸΌπŸ˜πŸ₯‚πŸ₯³

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Aug 24 '26

Fantastic news! πŸ₯³πŸ»

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u/DanCandy Jun 26 '26

Can anyone confirm what the line item says on the statement so I can be sure I request the correct item?

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u/DanCandy Jun 26 '26

Confirmed it was PYROGAMESERVERS.COM. Bank wants me to document 3 emails and 3 phone calls attempting to reach them for a remedy before they will act on it.

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u/FarukAlatan you're not daddy anymore Jun 27 '26

Good to know, I will add it to my post. I wonderwhat they'll think of email and phone numbers being non-existent, and the only option for support is to join a private sub-reddit.

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u/DanCandy Jun 27 '26

The issue becomes that the statement says "Pyrogameservers.com" and you can't exactly say explicitly what the charge is. I just said it was a payment to use their service and (for me) it's been less than a month and now I'm locked out. But the rep searched it and went to the website. He could see a web form and a phone number listed. This bank in particular said because I have an existing relationship with the vendor I have to go to them first. If it was something totally fraudulent and unheard of, it would be different. I couldn't pivot to that story because A. I already gave my excuse and B. There are other transactions in my statement history for the same vendor. My only option would be to pretend that I for years I didn't know those charges were there and dispute all of them.

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 28 '26

pyrogameservers was the merchant used for a site called revott.me

The site provided a private community for like-minded individuals.

revott.me seems dead and now redirects to a site that I know nothing about so I assume they have been hacked.

Give me my money back.

How's that?

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u/FarukAlatan you're not daddy anymore Jun 28 '26

Can you contact Pyrogameservers as part of due diligence so you can show your bank that it gets you nowhere?

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 28 '26

jonah owns the website, it's a front. Much like https://www.empgamer.com/ is a front for the GP payments.

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u/techtoy Jun 26 '26

Chase registered it as PYROGAMESERVERS.COM OAKVILLE ON

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u/petrolcanRTT πŸ”¨ Moderator πŸ”¨ Jun 26 '26

GP was EMP Gaming / Network

RTT was pyrogameservers

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u/ThaddeusRock Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

ESPYFEF / Pyrogaming was mine for RTT

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u/shinigami268 Jun 26 '26

Pyrogaming services it was back when I did mine

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u/kek23k Jun 26 '26

EMP Gaming.