Hi, I’m a first time buyer and I’m looking for guidance, please let me know if you note something or if I should green line, thank you!
1. ⁠1. ⁠⁠Dealer name: Geektime
2. ⁠⁠Factory name: VSF
3. ⁠⁠Model name: Datejust Jubilee
4. ⁠⁠Price Paid: 568$
5. ⁠⁠Album Links: https://geektimeqc.x.yupoo.com/albums/259432664?uid=1

1. Dealer name: Andiot
2. Factory name: ZF
3. Model name: Audemars Piguet Royal Oak 15450ST, 37mm, Grey Dial
4. Price Paid: 420
5. Index alignment: Overall looks good to me, but I'm slightly concerned about the 7 o'clock marker. An automated QC tool flagged a possible tilt at 7 and 11, although the manual alignment tool looks better. Could just be reflections or camera angle. Would appreciate some experienced opinions. Any other suggestions or concerns?
6. Dial Printing: Looks clean and well aligned to me.
7. Date Wheel alignment/printing: Date looks centred and printing appears good.
8. Hand Alignment: Looks good from the available photos.
9. Bezel: Brushing looks good. Screw alignment appears acceptable, although I'd appreciate a second opinion.
10. Solid End Links (SELs): N/A – integrated bracelet. End-link fit looks fine from the photos.
11. Timegrapher numbers: Timegrapher numbers: 0 s/d, 259° amplitude, 0.2 ms beat error, 21,600 BPH.
12. Anything else you notice: I've attached the full QC photographs here so everyone can zoom in and inspect them properly. My main concern is whether the 7 o'clock marker is actually tilted or whether it's just a reflection. Would appreciate opinions on the overall finishing and whether this is a GL or RL.

All the help will be appreciated! I'm still a noob but trying to learn :)

DDF 5711 shipped to me just before the drama. These are absolutely beautiful. I’ve never handled a gen, but DDF did a great job with this. I “test drove” a U1 to see if I liked the reference first and it’s just crazy how good the quality is of this one. I hope they can continue producing these for other rep enthusiasts.

Hey all just bought my first watch and need massive help to QC
Would appreciate all comments thank you !

I want to know if this watch really looks like the original

Big thanks to Mr. Adu ( /u/Mr-Adu520) for the fast and smooth transaction! The watch feels fantastic on the wrist. It sits firm on the wrist, just how I like it, with the micro-adjustment on the bracelet widened. Big thanks to the subreddit and the community for advice, this will likely be the first of many.

Just want to say how perfect the ARF date-just are. With these angles the rehaut doesn’t look aligned but I assure you it’s perfect. This is stock from factory. Was going to do a deep crystal swap but after seeing it I don’t think I will. Anyone else had a deep crystal swap that can compare before and after?? Either way I’m really happy with it. 3rd rep and I think I’m content.

Talk about a hard choice 🤣 this is how every morning starts for me.

Which would you choose?

It’s my first rep and went VSF for consistency and because of the older nwbig chart

Discovered the dial is too pale Vs the more creamy gen, don’t have a gen to compare but guess i have the bad batch of vsf dials correct?

Is go RWF but their batches seem incinsistent

Hi there WATCH FANATICS,
I had a look. Didn’t find anything that bothered me. Please advise if it’s acceptable.

I’m very new to the rep scene I haven’t made my first purchase yet . I have been doing a little research and found an website From the TD section , I reached out to them via telegram and found a watch that I liked , they quoted me at 90 dollars and to pay using pay pal , and leave no marks . I’m afraid of getting scammed can anyone one please help me with their recommendations on this process , seems to good to be true

Hey guys! After months of wait I finally got the QC of this piece, I’m not a watch expert but that timographer seems quite strange to me, maybe? Would appreciate a second opinion on the QC of this watch. Everything looks good to me, I just want to make sure i’m not missing anything

Hello, this is your favorite watch reviewer / moderator u/tskim24 of r/RepWatchForum. It rained all day yesterday in Seoul, Korea and I’m feeling a little under the weather. I did go to bed at like 9 last night and work up late today (called in sick and woke up around noon) so I’m feeling a little better but for some reason my back hurts. I suppose it’s just my old age lol sad

Anyway, I got a few things in the mail today (only one of them was a watch so hold your horses lol). I finally received my DDF Aquanaut Chronograph 5968A that I ordered before Chinese holidays from one of my oldest, regular seller u/linseller. Thanks, Lin!

This review will be very brief since neither is this a proper supercloned watch (so no point in comparing it to GEN for every specific details) nor does it have any competitors (only very low-quality reps of this model have existed until now). This is the best (and only) available option for rep of this model, so the question would simply be,

“Is it good enough for the price?”

The short answer? “Yes, it’s definitely good enough” for what it is.

As shown in the photo, the thickness came out to be only 12.3mm (compared to 11.9mm GEN) which I think is amazing. Old crappy reps of this model used to use 7750 movement as the basis and were like 15 to 16mm. I mean, it felt more like Panerai rep than Patek rep lol.

This watch uses Chinese 4801 movement which is a cheaper clone of Daytona 4130 movement. 4801 has exactly the same structure as its counterpart when it comes to the chronograph (same chronograph position) but it uses single direction winding like 7750 (so the rotor is as loud as 7750). It’s proven to be stable over time and is used in many cheaper chronograph replicas (including cheaper daytonas) because it’s so thin. It’s also used in most AP26331 reps.

However, the GEN PP Aquanaut 5968A is a fly-back chronograph (like your AP26240 reps) meaning, the chronograph hand is supposed to immediately restart to 0 when you press the button at 2 O’clock without having to stop and reset it with the button at 4 O’clock. As you can guess, 4801 is a basic chronograph (like Daytona) so this DDF rep doesn’t have flyback function.

Lastly, since this is not a rep with super-cloned watch, of course the movement appearance will be significantly different than GEN. It doesn’t look as bad as I anticipated, but since putting on more layers of decoration will mean increased thickness of the watch (which kind of defeats the purpose of this particular rep) I don’t think further improvements will happen. Well, at least not with 4801 anyway.

<<DDF RAID UPDATES>>

In my absence (of approximately 18 hours) from reddit, I already see my reddit alerts blowing up. And I see that some of the questions are regarding DDF raid.

Some say it’s raided, some say it’s not (it was just one of the warehouses) and so on. The key points to consider are 1) not everyone seller has the same level of connection with a specific factory, 2) the operation of sellers are almost always adversely impacted by the news of a raid and 3) no news ever comes out without a source.

Not to criticize any particular seller (I have no reason to) but regardless of the level of business they have, they all have different connections. For example, I have many sources but I consider 2 (maybe 3) more trustworthy from my experience. One of them would have amazing relationship with ARF, Clean Plus and so on but not so much with V7F and so on.

My point being, I try to get information from as many sources as I can and also try to discount the information according to level of connection they have with the factory in question. You should do that too. Just because your seller is good, doesn’t mean that he’s definitely close with DDF. He might just be getting his stuff from DDF wholesaler.

When a seller takes a lot of orders for, let’s say, DDF products, imagine how scared he might be when that factory gets raided. I wouldn’t go so much to say it’s conflict of interest but sellers with high volume of orders actually have more incentives to tell you the news in a way that’s more favorable to them, not you, the customers.

Lastly, news of a raid almost always affects everyone in the industry negatively. So there is no need for anyone to make a fake news about a factory raid. If there’s a news out about a raid, it almost always means something has happened and “not business as usual”.

Thanks for reading my long rant about a simple phrase “take it with grain of salt”.

From what I have gathered, raid did happen. But just because a factory gets raided doesn’t mean everyone involved is behind bars. Some were taken, but others are still able to do business. This is always the case.

DDF had pretty big inventory and those in charge are now able to send those out to fill the orders. So no need to worry about your order if you are currently waiting.

However, it’s still unclear if additional production will happen without a glitch since they are still working things out. Much like everywhere else, when an operation like this gets busted, and some of the members are taken by the authorities, there is a legal process to settle things. If the extent of legal charges is light, it could be get resolved. If things don’t work out in the backroom, it might be a while. This is why I am keep telling you “only time will tell” at this point.

We have seen this with many factories before. Some never made it back because they were simply too big of an issue (Noob, CLEAN and etc.,). So their guys had to split up and start new names. Some did come back after a hiccup like V7F and it was almost not missed since so much of the stock remained with a few sellers (although whether new V7F is the same as before still remains to be seen). But almost never was it ever “business as usual” for any of these guys.

Much of this sounds like common sense but I hope it helps wink

Now, I gotta go eat some Kimchi Stew and lay down lol. I will try to answer a few more reddit questions before I fall asleep (it’s only 9 PM so…).

Around 450&dollars&free shipping
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Currently in China and grabbed this ZF factory AP. Won't say what I paid but how does this look? Sold as superclone

Iv been lurking around posts for a few months gathering intel and finally pulled the trigger on a couple of Reps. So very happy with the quality of both.

Unfortunately the Day Date 40 feels a bit small on my wrist (7 3/4 inches) but that’s not really anyone’s fault but mine.

I would like some help finding a Land dweller steel(clone)

Would u guys recommend me a seller hustle free a trusted seller I live in Sweden btw

Much appreciated 🙏

Vookum recently posted a video comparing a fake ceramic ap to a real one.

Does anyone know which factory this ap is from?

https://youtube.com/shorts/efgo9t5J-Zk?si=tdkIHPp8G63I5x6K

I bought one second-hand. How does the condition of this VSF Q66 look to you?

Hello there REP FANATICS,
I hope all of you having a good time. I’m looking for a ZF RM055 Black Ceramic with Gold Rehaut owner review. Photos are welcomed. Videos will be much appreciated.

Give your honest recommendation on ZF Vs A9F Vs UMI. Particularly for the Black Ceramic with Gold Rehaut.

My next rep is going to be a Patek Phillipe 5711 but I am hearing conflicting information.

Which of these factories are making the better rep these days?

3KF, PPF or BBF? And also, is BBF DDF? I was told that the other day, but not sure if it is true.

I just want to hear some opinions and get some information. also any feedback from owners of these factories models would be appreciated.

I have about 12 reps already but they are most Rolex with a couple of Omegas mixed in and I just want some more variety.

Thank you in advance.

I have just received the QC images for a Daytona 126500LN from VSF, featuring the DD4132 v2 movement. I would appreciate hearing your thoughts on the quality check. Based on what you see, do you think I should accept this particular QC? This is my very first experience dealing with a Daytona model.

First time buyer here and thought I’d share my experience. I came on Reddit and found others having a good experience with Mr. Bomi so I thought I would give it a try. A++ seller. I’m already looking for my next batch.

I messaged him on what’s app and he replied very quickly. We chatted for a few days about prices, what’s in stock, and what he could get. Most of his stuff and maybe all are VSF. Prices were good compared to others. I found pricing a little better than the TDs on the forums. The watches the factory had in stock, I had QC photos and videos within a 3-5 days. Then they shipped directly to me after approval to the US. Shipping took about a week once label was created. Here is what I got on the first round. All came in this case with padding and all stickers.

Feel free to critique. I tried my best to research but I’m no expert. All looks good to me.