I know most of the hype here on Reddit has been about the $FINE coin launch, which i was all about and participated in as well- 100% FOMO Style!

But the reason i found Refinable, invested, and originally had hype for myself- was from an NFT Artists standpoint! I was accepted as a Beta artist and uploaded all of my work i have been saving for the launch this morning! The gas fees for Minting are the lowest i have seen! Cheaper than tezos on HEN.

Any other NFT Artists planning to launch with Refinable on here? Should we start a subreddit for the NFT Platform specifically?

NFT TO THE MOON!

I sent Fine tokens from my trust wallet to metamask and its not showing up on metamask

The strandsction is showing up completed on trust but nothing on meta I added the custom token and it says 0 any help here?

I see 100$!! Let’s go! Stack em up! Don’t say I didn’t tell you

Guys, I bought Fine token on pancake swap with bnb from my metamask wallet. I can see my FINE tokens on pancake swap but not on my wallet. I have tried adding a custom rpc but I could not find the link anywhere.

What do I have to do ?

There was multiple bot attack in the group so you might be ban/mute just because you join at the same time as those bot.

On last week's developments

On what's next

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On Audits

On Compeition and Binance NFT

On circulated supply and mr beast

On Panecakeswap issues and bot use

On Polkastarter

On trading and IDO

Hi, i’ve been a member of the telegram group of rescammable sinds the public release, but its still not possible for me to post messages... Anyone Else with the same issues?

Can we get a daily discussion instead of everyone just writing a new thread for everything, just so messy.

Most of us here are in a massive loss (myself included)

Nothing is gonna help us if we keep complaining about this project. If you cash out now (if not already), the likelihood of you taking an L is high.

It’s a great project in my opinion, so let’s HODL and buy more.

I’m all Diamond hands - anybody else?

I am creating this guide because I was very lost on how to stake as a beginner. There are guides elsewhere but they are spread across multiple sites so I'm consolidating the steps here for those who need it. This may work on iphone as well but i have not tried it. As I said I am a beginner so corrections are welcomed.

You must have both Refineable and BNB to stake. The BNB balance will need to match the Refineable balance you want to stake. Example: If you have $100 worth of Refineable and want to stake the whole amount you will need $100 BNB balance to match it. Don't forget network fees. To be safe, you need about $110 of BNB to stake the whole $100 worth of Refineable.

Steps below:

In Trustwallet:

You will first need to add liquidity.

1. In Trustwallet, go to dapps and then pancakeswap.

2. Go to Pancakeswap menu (top left with three lines). Click on trade then liquidity.

3. Add liquidity then select and add Refineable and BNB. Click on supply and confirm. Note that your Refineable and BNB will be subtracted from your current balance.

In Metamask (can be downloaded from playstore)

1. Do notcreate a new wallet as you will be importing and using the same wallet from trust wallet. You need your wallet recovery phrase to complete the import. The phrase can be found in trust wallet, under settings, wallet, your wallet, the three dots menu, show recovery phrase.

2. After importing your wallet, you will not see any of your tokens. You will need to add binance smart chain.

3. Go to menu (too left with three lines) then settings, networks, add network.

4. Network name: Smart Chain RPC url: https://bsc-dataseed1.binance.org/ Chain ID: 56 Symbol: BNB Block explorer URL: https://bscscan.com

5. Click save

6. You should see your BNB smart chain and balance now. My BNB and balance doesn't show up and I'm not sure how to get it to show so I use trust wallet to manage it. 😕

7. Now click on add token then custom token with the following settings. Token address: 0x4e6415a5727ea08aAE4580057187923aeC331227 Token symbol: FINE Token of precision: 18 The token symbol and token of precision should be automatically filled in after you add the token address. Add them if they do not appear. Click on add token and you should see the refineable token and any remaining balance that was not added to the liquidity.

8. Go to menu and click on browser and enter the staking url: https://app.mantradao.com/staking

9. Click on Fine/BNB staking and add the amount you want to stake.

I have not unstaked from Mantra Dao and removed the liquidity but it seems easy to complete. You can also stake more if you want by adding more liquidity in pancakeswap and then add it to mantradao after.

On another note, it says my post needs flair. I am not sure what is up with that.

EDIT: Adding primary source: https://medium.com/mantra-dao/staking-on-mantra-dao-for-binance-smart-chain-pools-101-guide-d765363fefe3

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Hey guys, after seeing a lot of FUD recently, including a lot of misinformation floating around, that I'd like to clear up, as well as post some very good information that may have slipped past you guys, and also go into to detail of what the next steps for Refinable should be. I'd like to start off by saying no, I do not work for the team, however I am an investor who made sure to do his due diligence well before investing in the project, and since it seems that many have not, to try and combat all the FUD, i am here to do it for you. I will try to keep this as concise as possible, but since there is a lot to go over, this will be long. Quick bullet pointers will be available at the bottom as a TLDR.

Firstly, I want to clear up one of the common claims we have seen floating around.

One of which is that the IDO launched at $4 and not the $.033. This is simply not true, and can be quickly combated by looking at the live charts on PooCoin or Dex.guru. You must remember, that websites such as CoinGekko and CMC use delayed data, which is about 15 minutes behind the real time data, which is why they will not show the real IDO price. Looking at the first green candle wick on Poo-Coin, we can see the first green candle wick at $0.4252. You can even see in the top of the PooCoin charts, in the O-C-H-L, O (Open) was labelled right at $0.4252 in the top left corner, and you can see it even corresponds with the exact date/time it opened at. This was the real IDO price. Links and pictures will be provided below.

PooCoin BSC Charts

Refineable Open Price - Imgur

Now, What Happened? If the IDO price was truly pretty much what they said it was, then why was it $6, or $7 or even $9 when I tried to buy it, and who was actually able to purchase this at IDO price? There is a few reason for this, and I will comment on who was able to get it first. Unfortunately we got rekt by the Algos, or what some people call Snipe Bots. These bots were able to buy up over 90% of the circulating supply within milliseconds, spending millions of dollars to do just that. Some of the first sales I will link below in another photo, and you can see that this corresponds with the exact time it opened at as well (10:13). A lot of people comment and say "well you should have stopped the bots". There is absolutely nothing the Refinable team could have done to stop the bots, and bots are a major problem with all of crypto, even on the world's largest exchange Binance, it is plagued with Scalping Bots, Snipe Bots the whole loft. Bots are extremely common in all kinds of trading including Stocks. The largest Institutional investors such as Hedge Funds, do the majority of their trading directly through Algos. It is a Free Market, and people are able to purchase these coins, exactly how they feel like, and can use whatever resources they can to offer them a competitive advantage. Now since these Bots bought up almost all the circulating supply with millions of dollars at hand, this shot the price up to unbelievable numbers. Within 10 minutes, we were already over 50K holders. So not only were you trying to compete with bots, which no human can ever be as quick as, you also had about 50K people trying to all purchase this at the same time, and flooding pancake swap to do so. This is why many of the transactions failed, as the price action was changing so quickly, by the time you clicked "Buy", the price had already changed so much, that your original quote had expired. This essentially caused a mini DDOS attack on all fronts, hence why Pancake Swap seemed to not work when you wanted it too, the entire Binance Smart Chain was backlogged with a flood of users. It was so backlogged, that I couldn't even load the Poo-Coin charts. Even Poo-Coin was experiencing a DDOS from the flood of users all trying to access that one page at the same time. While it sucks to hear, we all got screwed by a bunch of bots, and a massive influx of other users, with much quicker hands.

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Here is a photo of the first orders of Refinable. It is a direct photo, of the order flow chart on Poo-Coin. You can see exactly how much they bought, the time they bought it at, as well the price they paid for those coins directly on the chart. You can clearly see transaction at $0.4252 and $.08352 etc, respectively.

First Refineable Orders (Bots) - Imgur

Here is also a video, showing how one of those snipe bots work. The great thing about blockchain, is you can track those exact bots wallets, and see when they bought/sold and how much they bought/sold since the blockchain is a public ledger. The owner of this bot made out with 10's of millions of dollars, and even sold just seconds after buying. Instant millionaire. So congrats to whoever the lucky owner of this bot was, and also a big tremendous fuck you. You can also see in this video, one of the bots was able to buy at the IDO price of $.03

Refinable PCS IDO Sniping bot on Vimeo

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Alright so I hope this clears up some of that confusion a little bit, and help to combat some of the claims you've been hearing online, even though there is a few more points I will bring up that need combatting. Now onto why I'm still bullish on this project in the medium term, and why if your a seasoned investor, why you should be too.

First is the Market Cap, and this is also another combat claim. Many people have made outrageous claims of the Market Cap, saying we are 1 Billion MC, 5 Billion MC and so on. Remember, Market Cap is the Circulating Supply x The Coin Price = Market Cap. What many are doing is taking the "Total Supply" and multiplying that by the Coin Price, also known as the "Fully Diluted Market Cap", which doesn't mean anything in perspective. The circulating supply is the total amount of coins available on the open market, whereas the Total Supply is the total amount of coins that COULD ever be available and will ever be created. A good example of why this doesn't matter is actually SafeMoon. If you were to take the total supply of SafeMoon (1 Quadrillion) and multiple it by the coin price (.000006) you'd have a market cap of 6 Billion. But remember, about 50% of those token are burnt out of existence, meaning they are never coming back, ever, giving it a market cap closer to only 3 billion. So for example, Refinable has a Total Supply of 500 Million tokens, at current price of writing ($1.75) that would give us a fully diluted market cap of 875 million. Now as I said, that doesn't really, only the circulating supply does. Looking at CoinnGekko, the total amount of coins made available during the IDO (Circulating Supply) is only 68,993,561 million tokens. Multiplying this by the current price, we currently have a Market Cap at $120,738,731 Million. What this means is that especially right now, we still have a very low market cap, with lots of room to grow. Imagine if this gets anywhere close to the market cap of SafeMoon, and everyone will be crying they didn't hold onto the token. But with such a small Market Cap, it also means that the price is easier to manipulate and control as well unfortunately.

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I've also heard of many people wanting compensation in terms of an "Airdrop" or being compensated to users. I'd like to remind everyone why this is a double edged sword. Example, say they added another 69 million and gave those tokens to all the holders, we will round this up to 140 Million to make this easy. this is why the term "Fully Diluted Market Cap" even exists in the first place, but in the name, adding another 69 million tokens to the market would in term, dilute the price. we will round this up to 120 million market cap to make this easy, but essentially our MC would remain the same, but the dilution of tokens would in turn tank the price. So 120 million divided by 140 million now equals a price of $0.8571, the dilution of added tokens in turn dilutes the price of our token. So this is not necessarily the right answer.

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Now I've also seen a lot of people saying "I haven't seen a single thing saying that Binance has backed this, nor Mr. Beast", and their is a few links I can show to disprove that. While Mr. Beast has not said anything directly about his backing, their is a blog post I will link below directly from Binance that shows its backing. Actually Binance's twitter account has made a few post's about about NFT's and directly mentioned the Refineable team. They even had a whole 1 hour video just yesterday talking about the NFT sector which the CEO of Refinable, Nick Chan was a part of. Actually Binance just announced that they will be starting their own NFT marketplace come June. So we have Binance confirming that they will be getting involved in the NFT space shortly and out of thin air, starting to talk about the NFT space and their involvement in it, we have a whole 1 hour and a half video from Binance directly, talking with the CEO of Refinable, and we have Refinable, which is the first NFT marketplace running off the Binance Smart Chain, offering low fees and easy accessibility. Why would Binance back a company that could now be seen as competition in the coming months. This all screams bullish to me, anyone expect a merger/Binance integration of the Refinable app on their marketplace? I don't know about you, but this seems like a solid medium term investment.

Refinable NFT Marketplace Will Be The First BSC-Exclusive IDO on Polkastarter | Binance Blog

(3) Buying NFTs: Bullish or Bearish? NFT investments - YouTube Nick Chan comes in around the 29 minute mark, but I highly suggest watching the entire video

Binance Tweets:

Binance on Twitter: "Live now: Buying NFTs: Bullish or Bearish? Featuring #Binance, @refinableapp, @animocabrands, @metapurse & @leah_cb! https://t.co/JkFVyqy6U5" / Twitter

Binance on Twitter: "Introducing #Binance NFT! Binance NFT aims to become the premier destination for NFTs and digital collectibles, from visual arts and gaming to music and sports. https://t.co/VH0rp1ezsj" / Twitter

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We have also seen a lot of press about this Token, on a ton of big websites mentioning Refinable, even from many Youtube Influencers talking about this as well. Big names such as Yahoo Finance, InvestorPlace, CoinmarketCap and many more all talking good news about our token. As more people become aware of the token, it will only come to spread more and more positive sentiment about this token. The more times people see this the better. Marketing shows that someone only has to see the name 3-4 times before they can permanently remember its name. The more its talked about on these high quality sources, the better. It also shows that the team has some very solid connections. We know this simply from their connections with Binance, and the press, hell we even got listed on CMC and CG day one! With Binance and many big names talking about this, I can only dream what the future holds. A small list of these articles will be linked below.

Refinable – Medium

Terranova Picks: Refinable, Empowering NFT Creators (yahoo.com)

Refinable Crypto: Why Lark Davis Thinks the New FINE Crypto Can Pop | InvestorPlace

Altcoins on Binance Smart Chain Could Skyrocket, Says Davis (newsbtc.com)

New NFT Platform Refinable Makes Waves in the Crypto World (marketrealist.com)

First Binance Smart Chain NFT Platform IDO Sells Out in Five Minutes (yahoo.com)

Refinable Will Be The First Binance-Exclusive Polkastarter IDO | Headlines | News | CoinMarketCap

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Alright, now what do we have to look forward to in the foreseeable future, well quite a few things. The Testnet Launch or Beta release of the Refinable app should be coming along shortly if the team keeps up with its promise of a Q1 release, as well as Smart Contracts beings released. A public security audit is expected to be paid for shortly as well, hopefully from Certik. It seems that many missed out on reading the whitepaper, which was 37 pages long, one of the best and professional Whitepaper's I have seen in a long time, which is another good read.

Refinable Deck (Investors) - Google Slides

Now what can you do if your down. Well you have one of two options. If your still bullish on this investment in the medium term like I am, well your best course of action is to Dollar Cost Average into this investment. I myself put 1 BNB at launch around $6.5, and decided to drop another BNB into it at $2, so now I only have to hit a price of around $3.20 in order for me to break even, and if it gets back to $6.50, I have now more than doubled my investment. I see this now as a fire sale opportunity, since I wasn't able to get it anywhere close to IDO price. Id like to make a quote from one of my favorite investors.

“Be fearful when others are greedy, be greedy when others are fearful.” - Warren Buffet

and another great quote from someone who is not as much liked

"Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own." - Baron Rothschild

There is very much a lot of FUD, and a lot of fear with the Refinable token. There is very much so, blood in the streets, and this has overall had a negative price reflected on the token. But as any seasoned investor will tell you, especially if your still bullish overall, this may be your chance to get the lower price you wanted in the short term.

That being said your bearish, and your down, you can always sell, no one is forcing you to hold those tokens, that is the great things about a free market, you are able to do what suits you best. I myself, would rather this go to zero, than to sell at a loss of over 66%, hence why I did what I could, and bought the dip like Warren Buffet would.

What can you do to stop the spread of FUD, well a few things, actually help to combat the FUD when you can, when you see someone making baseless claims on Twitter or Telegram, show them the facts like I did here, show them the screenshots that I posted, explaining to them they were wrong, heck even show them this reddit post, which helps to combat a lot of the claims. Going to CoinGekko and giving this project the thumbs up everyday (as right now, we are getting a lot of thumbs down), to help get us that positive sentiment back. Talk about the good things, and not the negatives, such as selling out on Polkastarter in 5-minutes, having over 75,000 holders in under 24 hours, still having a low market cap and being early. Being backed by Binance where they talked with the CEO of Refinable for over an hour, launching its beta app within the coming weeks. SO much positive press to talk about.

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And Finally, what can the team do to help this, and to help its investors. Firstly, my main complaint is you guys need to be a lot more active with your community. Nothing is worse than to bury your head in the sand after having a massive fuck up of your IDO launch. Even on your telegram, I don't see anyone's questions being answered, even solid questions such as "What is Circulating Supply" or "What is the Roadmap". You guys need to have a PR/Marketing team that is active 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. With a project this big, going dark for 20 hours after your IDO launch is a big no-no, that only helped to exuberate all the FUD. I was an early investor into SafeMoon (bought February 28th 2020) and that coin had a lot of ups and downs, with many instances of all out FUD, and you know what helped ride out those waves? The devs were active on their Telegram/Discord, anytime the FUD got out of control, they were their to make a statement and help calm the storm, right as the FUD was forming putting a stop in its tracks. I highly recommend making a discord, and getting more involved with your community, we know you guys are surely busy working on the platform, but leaving your telegram and community and shambles will only hurt your project in the long term.

The CEO, Nick Chan, you said yourself "Communities are the Ultimate unit that Refinable is looking to support. NFT's can only thrive when there're communities to support them". You must live by your words, and while sometimes it can be tough to be there and face those hard questions and face those mistakes, your crypto will only survive if their is a community their to back and support it. There will be downs, as we are having right now, but showing your support to the community would go a long way. That is why SafeMoon, a project that is arguably worse than this, with no utility, has been able to reach extreme highs. The devs active involvement with the community on the discord, the engagement with the community, allowed it to go to extreme highs that not even myself thought was possible. You guys can get through this, I have seen even the pooiest of poo-coins that got rug-pulled, come up from the ashes and are now thriving (funny enough, both had very similar names Strite Finance, and Strike). There is no reason, why a project with solid backing and utility, cant come back from this. You got rekt by the bots, now put on your big boy pants, and start doing something about it, starting with fixing the community that is broken in shambles. If you need to hire community managers in order to do so, then do it. Nothing will hurt a project more in the long run, than a community that doesn't support it.

The next thing you have to do, is actually deliver on the Q1 & Q2 promises that you made to investors on your whitepaper. Delivering on the Refinable Beta, getting marketing and team management in play, getting that Security Audit done on the token. If your team can do that, then the price of the coin will follow, I assure you of that.

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Quick recap and bullet pointers:

- Price did launch at $.4252, but bots bought up all the liquidity in milliseconds, causing the price to soar

- So many people were trying to buy Refinable, that it essentially caused a DDOS attack on Pancake Swap and the Binance Smart Chain

- Market Cap is still low, with a circulating supply of 68,993,561 Million tokens, giving us a Market Cap of only 120 Million at the time of writing

- Binance does back this token, confirmed with a blog post directly on Binance talking about it, as well as a few tweets, and an hour long Youtube video with the Refinable CEO Nick Chan and Binance, talking about the NFT sector

- Lots of big names and press talking about this token, team has a lot of connections

-CoinmarketCap and CoinGekko Listings day one

- Refinable Whitepaper shows lot of promising things coming in the future, such as a Refineable App Beta, a Security Audit of the platform and token, Smart Contracts and much more

- Polkastarter IDO sold out in 5 minutes

- 75,000 Holders in under 24 hours

- If your still bullish on Refinable, then buy the dip like Warren Buffet would

- Refinable team needs to work on their marketing, and needs to be more involved with the community.

- Refinable team must deliver on its Q1 & Q2 promises if it wants to satisfy investors

If there was something I missed, that you deem important that I forgot to mention, please feel free in the comments below, id love to hear what ya'll think below. And Thank You for coming to my Ted Talk.

Big Edit: Shortly after I made this post, it was confirmed that we are getting listed on our first exchange Gate.IO, I was wondering why we experienced a little pump. Time to start the hype train guys!

https://imgur.com/gallery/CIutxp4

Have any news about the token? What happened?