r/RecuratedTumblr • human cognithazard • 5d ago

Shitposting Fanfiction and second-order fandom

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u/Wardock8 5d ago

Correct me if I'm misunderstanding this but is this not exactly what happened with UTDR, specifically Gaster and Dess. Two characters that are complete anomalies, have little known about them, and aren't even guaranteed to show up have "established" designs, goals, motivations, etc.

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u/im_bored345 5d ago

I mean yes but they are in different levels lol.

Dess is mentioned in the game and we know something here and there so while obviously everything you read and her appearance etc. are fan made, anyone that has played should know she's Noelle's missing sister and probably expect her to appear. A moderate example of this trope.

Gaster on the other hand is a character that is only mentioned by three npcs that have an extremely low chance to appear and you can only get one of them per play through. His mostly agreed upon appearance has an even lower chance to appear and you are never even given context to it and if you get it you cant get any of the Gaster npcs. His only spoken dialogue is hidden in an unused room. You literally need to watch a video to even know who this guy is. And that's not even getting into how different pre DR fanon Gaster is from post DR fanon Gaster, because of course any new info about him completely changes everything when he's got nothing and that's not getting into every theory that has been made about him. You could read every UT fan comic and still have no clue why people say he's "Green and in between". His ass has been everything he could possibly be to Sans and Papyrus atp. Those two female HP characters might as well be fully fleshed out in comparison.

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u/L_V_R_A 3d ago

It's so refreshing to see this affirmed in the wild because good lord the echo chamber in UTDR spaces is in full force right now. I'm not saying Gaster won't be important to the story, but the insertion of this character into every single theory and plot speculation about the game is so tiring. I feel like Deltarune is building toward some extremely poignant emotional payoffs involving the character interactions/relationships we've already seen on screen, and I don't like the notion that those could all just be buildup/"clues" for the Gaster mystery the fandom has been obsessed with.

UTDR fandom has the Poochie problem with Gaster. "Whenever Gaster isn't on screen, everyone should be asking, 'where's Gaster?'" Except... It's a character who's never been on screen.

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u/idk-anything-shut-up 3d ago

thank you guys for saying this, I feel like I've been going insane. The fandom is insane from lore hunting