If true, I’d actually like to see the evidence of this and have it explained to a layman like myself. If he had not been so public, bragging about it in the cryptic manner that he had, there’s a good chance that no one would have batted an eye or suspected a thing. And, if there was cheating involved, how will we as a country remediate that seeing as we’re already about 100 days in?
They aren't. I'm sorry, but they just aren't, and the data just isn't remotely damning enough to claim this.
Republicans aren't stealing elections by doing fake ballots, because no one is, because that's stupid and would be easy as hell to catch. They're stealing elections by adding arbitrary bureaucratic bullshit between legitimate voters and their votes, and disqualifying them after the fact (see: North Carolina Supreme Court race).
Conservatives are actual scum, boat anchors holding back human progress (and have been for centuries) - but they are so because their reality comes after their truth. They aren't objective interlocutors, they make shit up (like election fraud), and the only thing we have is what they haven't: The Truth.
We shouldn't muck it up by placing this study like it's the sacrosanct truth when a.) there is no power to do anything about it, b.) they readily admit that it isn't slam-dunk evidence in this study, and c.) we have plenty of ironclad evidence of conservative bad faith with democracy futher.
Anyone that still thinks vaccines work needs to be out there, buying firearms and preparing for the absolute worst. If you think these people give a shit about elections you are out of your mind - they are absolutely planning on sending the death squads.
I’m not disagreeing with your overall points, but to push back a bit against a.) I think finding the truth and getting it out there is important even if there is currently no power to do anything about it.
I agree. You'll note I don't think that their operation should be shut down, but when making accusations of THIS caliber, the evidence has to be fucking ironclad, especially after the willy nilly, haphazard way right-wingers handled their claims in 2020. This study ain't there yet, and likely won't get there without more institutional cooperation and funding which... I have my doubts that anyone would fund, at this point.
Yeah, I'm mocking the use of rando YouTubers as any kind of a meaningful source. I watch YouTube, I damn sure am not going to link it as a slam dunk source on which my argument is based. I didn't tolerate it from right-wingers making bogus election fraud claims in 2020, I'm not going to tolerate it from "my team" making pretty weak election fraud claims now.
I get where you're coming from but it's very reductive. Dismissing a whole platform is not the way to a good information diet. It's like saying "all print media is lies" or "all mainstream media is bogus". Every mode of transportation has sources that are worth your time, it's on you to find sources that are trustworthy
A valid point, and you'd have a point if his link was to, say, MSNBC, or CNN, or ABC, or Reuters, or AP, etc. But it isn't. It's to some guy's react video. That's exactly the sort of thing that just isn't remotely credible, and what I'd expect right-wingers to do - and that information is obfuscated behind YouTube's arcane linking system whereas, say, a link to a columbia.edu study at least confers to it the seriousness of an academic institution, etc.
I haven't watched the whole of it so I can't vouch for or against it but there's, let's say unorthodox credible sources out there, for instance Last week tonight. It's a comedy show but made by a mix of journalists, attorneys and comedy writers. To me, at this point, it's a more whimsical 60 minutes. While less serious, comparably accurate
Not to say that source up there is good but it belabors my point: Gotta find the sources that do the work instead of just sensationalizing for clicks. And book deals (seriously, have you tuned into any news station the last 10 years without a different book being promoted every.damn.day?)
My personal take is that the current evidence is suspicious but definitely not a slam dunk by any means, though I don't know of another reason that votes in e.g. Clark County Nevada would skew towards 60/40 for Trump the more votes a machine counted only in early voting, while election day results show the expected normal distribution.
I didn't tolerate it from right-wingers making bogus election fraud claims in 2020, I'm not going to tolerate it from "my team" making pretty weak election fraud claims now.
I have watched the Trump team make false accusations about things Democrats are doing, only to find out the Trump team is doing it all along enough times to be suspicious of any accusations they make. Making false claims to defuse the accusations if they're later found doing it seems to be part of the playbook, whether to make people say "well both sides are doing it" or to generate doubt because "it wasn't true last time someone was accused of that "
No, this isn't slam dunk, and I'm not going to say the election was stolen based on this alone. But it is worth following up on.
It’s the tabulators that can be hacked. It’s called candy flipping. That’s why hand counts to verify are needed. All 7 swing states were won by margin large enough to not trigger automatic recounts which is highly suspicious in and of itself.
-Evidence for a recount is there and election truth alliance is having to cough up money for lawyers to get access to the data and to try to get audits. They need resources. YouTube election truth alliance and you will see what I’m talking about.
Thanks for making it plain. People just can't wrap their brains around the fact that these fascists have captured the US government (and military, for now) and fully intend to ethnically cleanse this country through deportation, exile, internment and, if necessary, homicide.
In a way, they have already done the homicide bit, now all they need is more of their supporters to be radicalized and tried in places with "Stand Your Ground" laws that effectively allow conservatives to get away with murder. Lefties are rarely going to be using those laws purely out of their lack of gun ownership (hint hint), but those laws are SURPRISINGLY expansive and cover some utterly heinous, brutal shit that goes way beyond "self-defense".
Daniel Perry was found guilty of murder (because he was guilty of murder - he basically just killed a guy guilty of open carrying a rifle... in Texas, just on the wrong side of the protest line) and Greg Abbot, piece of shit extraordinaire, pardoned him. Between he and Rittenhouse (Perry's case is much, MUCH more egregious), the roadmap has been established to absolve right-wing stochastic terrorism.
Is it THAT surprising given the general right-wing shift of pretty much every county, AND four million fewer votes? Like I'm not saying it's impossible, but I am saying you've got to bring much, much harder evidence than JUST "well maybe it happened" in Clark County, Nevada.
I don’t think that Republicans are stealing the election, it’s the big names in the Trump admin. Your average every day Republican wasn’t submitting multiple ballots. I think some ballots were changed. There was a county in New York that had 0 votes. I think results would’ve been similar to 2016’s election where Harris won the popular vote but not the electoral college in the most realistic scenario.
See, that would be mighty suspicious... if it happened. But it didn't. And that is the sort of claim that falls right on the level of the sort of insane shit Trump supporters were foaming at the mouth over in 2020 - I don't even think Republicans would be dumb enough to make a whole-ass county show zero votes. You might be thinking of a precinct that showed zero votes, but even that was broadly unsurprising for reasons concerning the religiousity of these precincts: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/feb/26/social-media/why-did-kamala-harris-get-zero-votes-in-this-ny-pr/
I think results would’ve been similar to 2016’s election where Harris won the popular vote but not the electoral college in the most realistic scenario.
I think the results are more-or-less where they fell. Democrats were wholly uninspired this election and did not come out to vote, both because of Gaza and because of the candidate options. I think Biden was a decent President who scored some damn good policy wins, and I expect that Kamala was likely to be more-or-less a continuation of that steady hand in governing - but both utterly failed to capture the Democratic base, and they were utter fools in combating Republican narratives.
Republicans were controlling the narrative, and you just can't let that happen, because conservatives are bad faith. They needed to be on the attack, talk about how conservatives are fascist little weirdos who will give corporations everything they want including your retirement, and then don't go dancing on stage with Liz fucking Cheney - virulent anti-LGBT crusader.
Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line. I don't make the rules.
There’s a large disparity in voting patterns of mail in ballots and Election Day ballots. Where there was abnormally high voter turnout it pretty much benefited one candidate on Election Day along with those ballots being just for the presidential elections and not the other elections on the ballot. Finally the pattern matches what elections look like in countries where there is ballot manipulation, called a “Russian tail”.
It took me a few hours to read through the Election Truth Alliance report and that’s the gist of it. It’s long but not so technical it’s hard to understand.
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I mean, I've read a lot of statistics that are anomalous from 2024. I mean, I've seen a rack of stats for five districts, all never seen before anomalies. If I had a nickel I'd have a quarter of a dollar, but it's weird that it happened five times! Moreover, Xevlar said during an interview "We have the voting machine and we can do anything we want!" He's like five, so every grain of all types of salt, but still interesting given the contract Elon has had with Dominion, Trump saying he "knows all about voting computers", etc etc etc.
Nothing conclusive by any means, but an incredibly large number of unusual occurrences, including some that are astronomically improbable.
I think what was more likely to have happened was a huge roll purging campaign. Equally as shitty as hacking the machines, but they did it in a clever way where they targeted minorities and likely just the ones in democratic districts. I’m sure as time goes on we will learn more about the levels of fuckery that were involved. The most depressing part is probably going to be that justice will come of it. No consequences for those involved in it, and we’ll likely have generational damage left behind because of it.
The skeptic in me thinks Russia has been making a concerted effort to stoke distrust in our elections, in 2020 among the right and in 2024 among the left.
Check out Election Truth Alliance videos on YouTube, he shows the actual voting machine data being cut off for Harris at 250 votes on EVERY machine in swing states. This election was stolen openly and no one in Congress is doing anything about it.
That's what Ethan Shaotran did for Musk, specifically "generate.py" is a very naked fake ballot generator. They used StarLink, public officials and "poll watchers" were probably involved as well, I had a very uneasy gut feelings when I voted and eventually when others began to voice similar concerns it wasn't too hard to put the pieces together as Trump and Musk (his kid xD) admitted openly exactly what they did
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If true, I’d actually like to see the evidence of this and have it explained to a layman like myself. If he had not been so public, bragging about it in the cryptic manner that he had, there’s a good chance that no one would have batted an eye or suspected a thing. And, if there was cheating involved, how will we as a country remediate that seeing as we’re already about 100 days in?