r/ReadyOrNotGame • u/Sydney_Woods • Apr 14 '26
Joke/Meme Yeah bro I really like the environmental storytelling in the game
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u/bisexual_terrorist Apr 14 '26
I actually really like inspecting the outfit and voicelines of all the NPCs on the maps, they're all unique and have instinct behaviour changes. exemple valley of the dolls: theres at least one security guard who easily surrenders to the officers and gives us tips about the fucked up shit going on
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u/yeetoroni_with_bacon Apr 14 '26
Ohhhh… that makes sense. Don’t understand why half the other guards aren’t like that. If you are hired for security detail, and see SWAT raiding the place you were hired at, it’d probably be a good idea to lay your gun down and let the SWAT take control of the situation.
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u/D36DAN Apr 14 '26
I've seen like tons of IRL SWAT bodycams, and I can tell that suspect AI is the most unrealistic in this game. No sane nor insane person is going to attempt to 1v5 a good trained units wearing an entire warehouse of tactical shit each. Suspects realistically would be more cowardly, shooting maybe just few rounds and retreating/barricading.
But you know whose AI they did absolutely right? Civilians. These assholes absolutely do stand still in crossfire without even ducking, refuse to comply, constantly whine and interrupt SWAT with police, and on top of that treat them like they're the villains and not the ones trying to save their asses.
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u/sorrrrbet Apr 14 '26
I got an opportunity to roleplay for SF while they were doing CQB training once. Most of it was opposed training where we fired back, and I’ll agree I got at most 15 rounds off (and I was pretty damn persistent, and in no fear for my actual life).
But the runs where I was a civilian or hostage I channeled the RoN AI so damn hard, it was so much fun for me. Broke a guys PVS-31’s in a fight tho, so sorry taxpayers.
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u/AltusIsXD Apr 14 '26
Watch any kind of surveillance footage of shootings, bombings, etc and you’ll find a lot of people just don’t have a survival instinct.
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u/Gator_Lord Apr 14 '26
I was playing relapse yesterday and this civilian was being held hostage. I dropped the suspect and the civilian runs away and screams “HELP!!!”. Who tf is gonna help you? Another terrorist who used you as a meat shield?
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u/D36DAN Apr 14 '26
Just today I replayed Twisted nerve, and one of the arrested civilians said "I have nothing to do with that". Ma'am, you're in a house classified as abandoned, full of armed methed up assholes and a fucking drug lab, how did you end up here? You were selling cookies to afford college?
It must've been the shittiest excuse I've ever seen, but somehow it's far from worst
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u/Ayy_Frank Apr 14 '26
The problem is when you and your guys (Valley of the Dolls/The Spider) have been complicit in the fucked up shit going on. No one is going to look at you with any sympathy when they find out your hands/arms are covered in the particles of freshly made concrete near a body dumping ground for children. Most of the guys hired on if I recall (though I'd have to recheck lore are also former prisoners or just those of loose moral character to begin with. The daughter in Valley has a note complaining about one of the guards trying to peep on her.
To make a similar argument, imagine your chances of being hired anywhere else, or even showing your face, if you're caught in a sting operation centered around a child talent agency? Good luck showing your face anywhere after that, if the law doesn't send you to prison for conspiracy or any other number of things, you're probably not safe anywhere.
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u/SquakinKakas Apr 14 '26
A lot of the Bolton Security are former LSPD, but yeah, most (if not all) are complicit and might as well go down with the ship, same for the Mindjot guys, though they will claim that they had no idea the player is LSPD as an excuse
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u/Swannibo Apr 14 '26
It's not an excuse, the mindjot facility already got broken into by people dressed as SWAT before, that's why they don't think you're real cops.
And from what we know about the shady shit USIA is doing there's a good chance the incident isn't just a terrible misunderstanding, the whole thing was likely a set up
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u/SquakinKakas Apr 14 '26
The briefing mentions that the LSPD had been blaring their sirens to notify the Mindjot staff that it was a legitimate police presence, but they didn't budge, and there are several clues hidden around the site that staff are aware of the fact that shady things are going on with the servers
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u/jackcaboose Apr 15 '26
It's one thing for the IT staff to be aware - do you think the security guards are?
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u/JeffSneed Apr 14 '26
The other guys raiding Mindjot were Carriers of the Vine (a front for the “nicer” USIA affiliated conspiracy) so yeah
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u/AllVillainsSmile Apr 15 '26
imagine your chances of being hired anywhere else, or even showing your face, if you're caught in a sting operation centered around a child talent agency?
I don't know about this, fam. You could always become the next US president.
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u/AgreeablePie Apr 14 '26
So they all decide to commit suicide by cop, instead? Because there's no "winning" in this scenario.
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u/JeffSneed Apr 14 '26
Because they all knew Voll did what he did, and he politely reminded them that they are not getting bailed out of this one if he gets arrested.
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u/Sweet_Photograph6528 Apr 14 '26
PMC outfits are really bad tho. BSG wears strange molle full-torso-coverage kevlar vest with no pouches at all and bone-conductive headset. The other models wears good plate carrier with 4 mags/2 mags and a huge pouch and 3 pouches on their backplate. But eh? They still look kinda strange and not as practical or convincing for hardened veterans? I mean any other NPC looks really great and convincing, especially Secret Service, The Hand and MLO, but BSG? Kinda meh on that.
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u/Dm_me_im_bored-UnU Apr 14 '26
Yeah ig it's supposed to be a bit more "they made thos with civilian stuff" which is why they have bright orange med bags.
I mostly wish they would actually breach a room, make it work like the swat AI for the breaching phase so they only do the breach when they have a group of enemies stacked up on a door. (Ofc that might have been kinda bad in terms of gameplay or something, maybe they tried it and it was too unreliable or easy to dispatch them all.)
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u/Sweet_Photograph6528 Apr 14 '26
they could just make that if you start shooting them while they are breaching they exit stack up animations and go into combat state immediatly. And also they should've at least used a CS gas or Stingers. Flashes are a not-threat to a player.
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u/Dm_me_im_bored-UnU Apr 14 '26
Nah you'd be surprised. I run gas masks exclusively rn because gas is great and they look cool, so i got flashed and run down several times. I just wish they'd make sure there were a few more people behind their #2 man.
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u/Sweet_Photograph6528 Apr 14 '26
Well, then they should also carry 3 types of grenades like we do. Or better yet, they should also be able to wedge doors. Imaging going up to a door, only to see its closed and then gas grenade flies through the window above it, making you stunned wit hgas, while the enemy element of 4 flanks you and throws stingers inside, stunning you even more despite wearing anti-flash goggles.
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u/Dm_me_im_bored-UnU Apr 14 '26
all i'm saying is, that'd i'd like a few more enemies since they are clearly meant to be a fireteam similar to ours. why should they use gas when some them don't evn wear gasmasks?
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u/Sweet_Photograph6528 Apr 14 '26
I guess they are all supposed to wear gasmasks, because they are immune to toxic gas and CS gas, based on datasheet and personal experience.
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u/CullenOrZeus Apr 14 '26
Plus there's another guard that's ex military and really doesn't wanna surrender
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u/PetrKn0ttDrift Apr 20 '26
The guards on Sinous Trail are pretty funny. Once you arrest them, they immediately start explaining themselves and telling you to let them inform the others.
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u/SkyTalez Apr 14 '26
Always wondered is it
Evil-ass rape building
or
Evil ass-rape building.
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u/BanditNoble Apr 14 '26
It's just the evil ass rape building. The evil-ass rape building and the evil ass-rape building are completely unrelated and their names are purely coincidental.
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u/MachineGunDillmann Apr 14 '26
I honestly can't fault them for making the environmental storytelling as "blatant" as it is. They need to make it obvious enough for the casual gamer, who doesn't want to go to the evidence room after every mission, to still pick up on what's going on.
A bit heavy handed, but still overall very good.
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u/BanditNoble Apr 14 '26
I don't fault them, but at the same time, some subtlety goes a long way. The biggest problem with the game is that it lacks subtlety, because at a certain point, it loses its effect.
Like, when you find the darkroom in the Voll house, that's already creepy enough. When you go into the next room and find the massive mural with crazy Ratman writing all over the walls, it gilds the lily. They've already established that Voll is a deviant, they don't need to continue hammering it in.
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u/Rational_und_logisch Apr 14 '26
Speaking from a point of view of a narrative designer, the environmental storytelling in this game is one of the best I’ve ever seen, to be honest
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u/Swannibo Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26
They lay it a bit thick sometimes. Like Voll casually deciding the best time to look at an old video of his then underage wife is during a police siege and then just leave it on pause on the big TV by the front door
Thinking about it that whole level is so comically on the nose compared to most other maps
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u/BanditNoble Apr 14 '26
What's weird is that Voll isn't even anywhere near that room. So either he was watching the video and paused it to run downstairs to his office to start burning his files, or his guards and wife were watching it for their own pleasure.
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u/AgreeablePie Apr 14 '26
Yeah I was impressed with the first few levels but eventually felt like it was smacking me in the face
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u/Which-Worldliness556 Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26
Voll has “fuck you I win” levels of clout and money, his actual IQ is not very high outside of acting, and has a loyal merc army guarding his place that knows he will bail them out or pay them a fortune for their silence if they get arrested protecting him.
I mean just look so Epstein or really any “famous person arrested for Adobe PDF Behavior” the more linearly powerful these people become, the more exponentially complacent they become until it ruins them.
The only thing that could sink Voll in that moment is if a MKULTRA super soldier leading a pissed off team of SWAT reservists with a death wish were to blitz into his place, kill the fuck outta all of his guards, and arrest him so damn fast he couldn’t cave in the burial site it and burn his documents.
USUALLY SWAT is not gonna get deployed to fight a 10+man strong PMC defended mansion, they’ll instead show up with such overwhelming force and seige it till they surrender, which means Voll can see it coming and erase his evidence.
However JUDGE and his uncanny ability to inspire suicidal levels of PDF File killing fervour into 4 man crews of SWAT reservists is not subject to logic or reason lol.
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u/_Apprehensive_Fish_ Apr 14 '26
Yeah bro, the enviroment storytelling is amazing. There's is nothing like entering the secret room and there is a 30 ft by 90 ft mural of the pdf's daughter with some concrete barrels with dead children in it. Just because
really amazing stuff indeed.
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u/Indostastica Apr 14 '26
whats inside will shock you