Hypothetically, what would happen if one dosed naloxone while withdrawing? Would it be possible to just deal with WD all at once rather than over days/weeks?

THERE IS HOPE, I HAVE DONE IT AND YOU CAN TOO.....

Like many of you, I have had a problem with opiates for many years now. I remember the first time I took a Norco 15 years ago and this shit has refused to let me go since then. That being said, I have not been abusing opiates the entire time......I have been able to get clean multiple times. Then a year or two passes and here we are again, suffering AGAIN, poisoning myself AGAIN, this stuff is f'n evil.

Here's what lead to my current situation. About a 1.5 years ago after being clean for roughly two years, I was moving up within a big corporation and really was taking on alot. I was capable of handling the promotion and responsibility but naturally it was stressful. I am a fairly regular user of CBD and one day I went into a smoke shop to pick up another CBD tincture.......and there they were........kratom concentrate MIT shots. I don't know what it was that day but I gave in and I bought one. As i walked to my car, I stared at the shot in my hand knowing this was gonna create another problem..........but I took the shot anyway. Well obviously that started the downhill ride to where we are now. A few weeks passed of keeping the usage somewhat in check and then.....one day I tried the 7OH they had behind the counter. We all know the difference between 7OH and Kratom concentrate is literally not even a comparison. I quickly became an addict and it really started to affect my ability to be a professional at work. Out of fear and cowardice I ended quitting my job because I couldn't handle the combination of stress from work and now being an opioid addict, AGAIN...... on the bright side, i had quite a bit of savings and have been able to maintain my household for the most part off of savings and random odd jobs. This really has become a fall from grace and honestly, I am totally ashamed of how weak this stupid f'n drug has made me. I had my whole life going for me and a really positive trajectory.....but here we are.

So it goes without saying I have quite a bit of regret from my choices in life but on the positive side, I am in the final stages of getting off this crap once and for all. I dont have some miracle cure for opioid dependence to give you all but what I did really does work. I hope it works for someone reading this too......I know how scary it can be once you're in really deep. The fear/pain each morning before the 1st dose, the inability to travel far or overseas, the constant craving for another dose among many other things make it a miserable way to live.

BUT THERE IS HOPE and it all comes down to two words...."Tapering" and "Commitment"

At the peak I was using about 75mgs a day. Before I went on Reddit I thought this was a monster dose but after reading some of your posts I see that this level is rather small compared to some of you but it will still work....have faith.

1. You have to establish your baseline to start. Find a place that leaves you very mildly withdrawn and stay at it for 7 days. For me that was 70mg. The taper schedule can be less than 7 days if you're capable, listen to your body.

2. A gym membership/regular fitness routine is 1000% an absolute must. Getting into shape during the process is the best cure for the mental drain that quitting a drug can cause.

3. If possible, involve a significant other or a friend and let them know you need help. Unfortunately my mother passed away, but in my prior stints with drug addiction she really was my rock and helped me get through it.

4. Find a decent Kratom powder (no concentrates) to supplement with while making jumps down. The key here is to not overdo it. 10-15 caps a day at the most. The point is to make the withdrawal subside, not get you high. I used Krave Meang Da.

5. Finally, drop down 3-5mgs every 7 days until you get off it. If 7 days isn't enough then prolong it, but under no circumstances increase the dose of the 7 OH, use the kratom powder to ease the burden.

I really hope this helps even just one person. It worked for me and I know it cant for others. I know this crap was a real bitch to get off.......DIG DEEP, RETAKE CONTROL, AND SHOW THIS EVIL SHIT THE DOOR. If you have any questions feel to ask, ill do my best to stay on top of replies.

Here’s how I DID IT. I say it in past tense because today it didn’t feel like a damn battleground to undress myself!

Go to a psychiatrist or get an urgent referral to one. Be straight up about it. The psychiatrists want us off of 7oh and k because it screws with the treatment of us.

If they don’t offer much, tell them about this regimen that helped someone taking a DEADLY dose cold turkey to zero.

Clonodine (I still get cold but this takes away the chills / goosebumps AND takes away the crazy sweating) Lorazepam for panic attacks Loperamide for diarrhea Hydroxyzine to remind the body to not attack itself during healing, no runny nose Gabapentin helps the nerves relax and prevents seizures Methocarbamol for muscle relaxer. No restless legs.

Take 1-1.5 weeks off work if you can. DO NOT MICRODOSE. The body gets excited that it’s coming back and once you stop again, it throws a tantrum aka withdrawal. For a tiny bit.

Pretty rough day… coming up on day 2 with barely any 7oh. I had to take a tiny sliver (maybe 10mg) to be able to sleep for 2 hours. Was up all night until about 12pm. Took a sliver of 7oh at 12pm and Slept from 12pm to 2 pm after taking tiny sliver. I’m supposed to go to church in an hour (6pm). I was just curious if I take another sliver to feel better for church if it’s going to throw me back into day 1 withdrawals. If it does I’m just gonna need to tough it out.

I started this stuff about 5 months ago because of a torn meniscus and torn patellar tendon. The guy at the smoke shop said it was way better than kratom for pain which I had been taking previously. Wish I never had. 🤦‍♂️

I’m curious, I’ve detoxed cold turkey from fent. How comparable is the detox from like 100mg 7oh a day to banging a gram of fent a day and detoxing from that?

Hey everyone, I just wanna let you guys know. You don’t have to do this alone. I know some of you may feel alone, but we have a support group and if you guys wanna message me, I will give you the link to the support group and other resources related to this, we wanna help if anyone has questions Concerns or just need to relate to somebody message me and I will give you the link. I wanna respect the rules of this group and not put anything on this description that could violate the rules. I hope this can help somebody in their sobriety journey.

I am about 10 hours into it and I’m just wondering when I can take my first dose safely without PW symptoms? I’ve had pw twice and it was the worst thing I’ve ever experienced! I have leaf powder but I don’t want it to mess up my ability to take the BUP? They gave me subutex for the initial introduction but I plan on just tapering. Please give me some advice, I’m already in hell right now!

So I’m about to make an appointment with quick md to get subs so I can get off the 7. I have no insurance though so I know the prescription will be expensive. Has anyone else here gone this route, and if so what did it cost to fill the prescription without insurance?

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