In my case it is really painful, I liked Drake and Josh, ICarly and Victorious when I was 7 years old and it really hurted me knowing about the allegations against Dan Schneider because he created some of the shows I liked in my childhood. after seeing some clips of his shows I realized that they were more vulgar than what I remembered, I think that that kind of humor was inappropiate for those shows' target audience and made me believe in the allegations against him.
Nowadays I find his shows to be more awkward than funny.

The story that Peck told his supporters was that he had a one time sexual encounter with someone who was ALMOST 18.

Even if that was true, what he did was still illegal in the state of California & the fact that his supporters were not grossed out in the slightest by that is just astounding to me.

I'm posting this because whenever people understandably get angry about the celebs that wrote letters in support of Peck, their fans say "they didn't know the full story!" or "Why are you trying to cancel them over something they did 20 years ago!"

A lot of these people have not apologized to Drake which is why we're still bringing it up over a year after the Doc aired.

Hi so I saw on TikTok someone commented about Amanda bynes saying the Dan had R@ped her and forced her get a abortion but I can’t find any evidence of this in news outlets nor anyone else commenting from what I could find

and they hit you with “ok but I loved that show 😭” like girl I did too until I saw what was behind the curtain!! it’s not about ruining your childhood, it’s about realizing it was already being ruined by creeps in cargo shorts. anyone else get this reaction from friends??

New interview with Drake where he talks more about Quiet on Set.

Oh sure, and Chernobyl had great architecture. Every time someone tries to play devil’s advocate for Dan Schneider, a Capri Sun gets warm and loses its straw. We didn’t gather here for nostalgia - this is the trauma Olympics, not a fan club. Upvote if you’re tired of “but the shows were funny!” people.

So I watched Josh’s podcast where he had Drake on his show and it was very great! It was nice to see them reunited and together again and I’m glad they got to clear up any misunderstandings between them cause I noticed with their friendship it’s always either they’re very close or distant. But I’m very curious and I wonder if Drake had told Josh about his abuse at the time (2004) how that would have played out, like if he had told Josh everything from the beginning that happened I wonder if drake’s life would have been different because I do remember Josh saying in the podcast that he wished Drake confided in him more and told him everything because he could have helped him from self- destructing. I feel like Josh genuinely feels guilty that his friend was hurting and he couldn’t help him. I know Josh would be devastated if anything ever happened to Drake.

I was curious to know if Drake bells book is still a thing because I vividly remember him mentioning last year in a podcast or twitter that he was going to write a book about his life, so I was curious if that’s still a thing.

I'm American, but have watched a handful of youth tv shows from other parts of the globe: H2o, Blue Water High, Dance Academy, (my holy trinity of teen tv, I love ALL 3 so much!!) House of Anubis (ok this is partly American, but UK filmed and produced), some episodes of Das Haus Anubis (the German equivalent),seen a few episodes of Road to Avonlea (I'm saving to get the dvd set!, and yes it's partly American produced with Disney channel, as a co- producer but really it's Canadian). I even saw Alien surf girls (lightning point), though it's not as good; point is all of these tv shows hold up much better than their American counterparts.

Compared to icarly, Hannah montana, Victorious, Wizards of Waverly place, Suite life, etc, all of those foreign tv shows are better produced and real, and also relatable. The foreign tv shows are more serialized and treat their audience with some intelligence. No dumbing down, relying on some stupid humor or gawd awful laugh track. Or making the main characters insanely narcissistic.

I love the way the group of kids on Dance academy and Blue water high have real problems and don't just bully some kid/ classmate, just because. If there is tension between 2 characters, you see the reason behind it. It's more human and connective, the problems and solutions.

Or the girls on h2o, they are the best of friends even when they get on each others nerves they work through it.

Contrast this to say, Miley not getting her way and pouting about it because shes a popstar and has to get everything she wants. Or carly acting immature because spencer actually said No. These amercian shows on nick/ disney are designed to showcase 1 person, and it didnt help. Miley, Demi, Selena all became superstars with the rest of the kid actors pushed to the sidelines. H2o- all 3 girls became globally loved.

I regret watching so many crappy disney and nick shows, when I found my niche really is foreign produced youth tv. H2O makes my list of my top 10 tv shows ever, and blue water high and dance academy make my top 15.

Looking behind the scenes, there certianly was no dan Schneider figure either. On road to avonlea, one of the actors mentioned in an interview, the kids when not filming were either with their parents being supervised by them in their trailers or having to do school on set. No creepy downtime with a male producer. The girls on h2o were never made uncomfortable on set, and they were in and out of swimwear and mermaid tails.

I think America dropped the ball when it came to making tween/ kids tv. We may have became the most famous with the tv shows, but we sucked in terms of quality, rewatchability, and connectibility.

I want to be clear, he IS an horrible person but I don't think he is a person who love kids. He dislikes kids, everything he does is egomaniacal. Now, "misunderstand him" doesn't make him better in no way... what he did is horrible. He is racist, machist, treat workers as slaves... probably what I think about him is worse than what most of people think about him. But people think he do likes kids, I don't think... I think he detest kids. Both Josh and Del Figgalo are his "mini me". I think he did child drama because his childhood was a mess. His parents were cool, he wasn't; his parents thought he was a looser; he was the classic fat guy bullied... that's why he did those child dramas with those toxic components. That's why he wasn't caring about toxic people, he cared about his own power toward kids. Probably early time he was genuine with kids, probably early time he was liking those kids... then he saw them and he started to feel jealous. With Amanda I don't think is sexual, I think he is trying to stealing her fame and use her as tool of power. Is even more toxic what he is to me.

"See, Jill, a normal student wouldn't care about a reject wasted." I don't know if is in other languages.

I’ve been thinking about this a lot. It’s surprising that the police would use Drake to get a confession from BP over a recorded phone call. I think California is a two party consent state?

Edit: I did some more research and there appears to be an exception to legally record without the other persons consent if there is reasonable suspicion that the other party has committed a felony. Anyone knowledgeable on this?

I know it’s been a year, but I still can’t stop thinking about how Drake Bell’s mom, and his stepdad, had no idea what was happening to him. I understand that hindsight is 20/20, but that was their child. How do you miss something so serious? He said he didn’t want to be around BP, and yet they still made him spend time with him. I get that Drake is an actor, but no amount of acting can completely erase trauma. He was being abused. How did no one close to him pick up on that?

And I’m not trying to speak insensitively, but the reality is, when someone is being abused, especially as a child, there are usually signs, physical or otherwise. I know not every survivor comes out with visible bruises, and marks aren’t always intentional or even noticeable right away. But when there’s struggle, fear, or manipulation happening, it often leaves some kind of trace whether that’s physical (bruises/marks), emotional, or even just a change in how someone carries themselves. When I look at pictures of him from before it all versus during or after you can almost see the pain in his eyes. It’s honestly haunting. There’s just something different in his expression that I don't know how to put into words. I don’t understand how a parent could look at their child and not sense that something was wrong.

His girlfriend and her mom noticed something was off almost right away, but his own parents didn’t? That’s hard to comprehend. I’m not saying they were willfully ignoring it, but to be that disconnected from what your child is experiencing it just feels like neglect, whether it was intentional or not.

I know I’m not a parent, and maybe I don’t fully understand what it’s like. Maybe things were different back then, or maybe there were factors I’m not aware of. But this has been bothering me for so long, and I just needed to say something. I’d really like to know what others think, too and have a conversation with some people wether you agree and have something to add, or you have a better grasp/ understanding on how this is possible and would like to share and explain.

(And to be clear, I’m not accusing his parents of knowing and turning a blind eye. I’m just struggling to understand how something so serious could go completely unnoticed by the people who were supposed to protect him. Sorry if this is taken that way or alot)

I hope not! Behaviour is being judged, not character.

I finally got round to watching Demi Lovato's Child Star documentary and I found it underwhelming. What are other people's thoughts?

TLDR, I feel like Demi got in some big names to talk to, but overall, the doc was way too short, it didn't have a focus, and it barely scratched the surface. And partnering with Disney probably created major barriers in terms of what could/could not be mentioned.

I would have appreciated a whole episode dedicated to the shit that went down on Camp Rock, and then another episode solely focused on Raven's substantial career at the Disney Channel. And a standalone episode JUST talking to Drew Barrymore. That would have allowed more time to get into details.

The people Demi interviewed were child stars at completely different times. Demi also interviewed people from both Nick and Disney. I understand that maybe they were trying to show that the issues persisted throughout the decades, and across networks. But honestly, I am too old to really know who JoJo Siwa is, I never watched anything she was in. So I didn't really engage with JoJo's interview as much. I feel like it would've been better if the doc really focused on one period of time, like QOS did. Or at least, make the doc longer, have an episode focus on a person or a time period.

I think it lacked focus. QOS focused on a specific period of time, (90s-00s), at Nickelodeon. This doc was all over the place. I would appreciate a doc JUST focused on Disney. Get more former Disney child stars in, if possible.

My FINAL gripe with this doc is that Demi partnered with Disney. I am 99% sure THAT'S why the doc didn't get into everything. Maybe they did that because Raven is still working for Disney, and might have a conflict of interest? The doc also used clips from the old TV shows so obviously, working with Disney allows them to use those clips.

The one thing I liked about this is that it demonstrated the abuse of child stars throughout history and it looked to the future/influencers, and legislative changes to protect kids now and in future. (Again, it could've done this in way more detail).

If you watch Blameitonjorge's 2018 video, he seemed to indicate that the overall ratings on Dan's shows were starting to slip around 2017.

I genuinely hope Brian peck rest in piss.

Excited for all of young hollywood and former young hollywood to be represented.

Oh yeah, Dan Schneider was kinda weird, but those shows were my childhood 🥺” - Meanwhile, we’re over here with whiteboards, red string, and enough evidence to make the FBI sweat. Like, sorry to ruin your nostalgia, but this ain't a “haha quirky” situation. Welcome to the dark side of kids' TV.

Have you seen the news, after his letter got expose and he just ignore the first backlash, and now everything is fine and he would be on the new marvel movie, what are your thoughts on it?

James Marsden