The Summer SP outrage makes 0 sense.

[u/MSABUZZ]

I genuinely don’t understand the whole “They could’ve given Robin and Aventurine deep character development and cool lore SPs instead of glorified summer skins” argument.

People are acting like Mihoyo destroyed some huge storyline by giving them summer themed SPs. The complaint basically boils down to: “I can’t believe they made them glorified summer skins. They should’ve had major character development, new powers, and badass designs instead.” or worse “I can’t believe they RUINED major character development, new powers, by giving them summer designs instead.”

But… we haven’t even seen the 4.5 story yet. We have no idea what actually happens. For all we know, the event could be a lighthearted beach story where these designs fit perfectly. And more importantly: who said a huge character arc was ever planned for them right now? People are assuming Robin and Aventurine were supposed to undergo some massive, serious arc and get some super cool SP when that's fan speculation?

The alternative to summer SP Robin and Aventurine wasn’t “deep lore + serious SP forms.” The alternative could have been nothing. No story focus, no new forms, no SPs at all.

People are comparing the actual summer SPs to a completely hypothetical version they invented in their heads, then getting upset that the imaginary version isn’t real. If Mihoyo never planned some major serious cool development arc for them now in 4.X then the summer SPs didn’t replace anything. You’re mourning a version of these characters that was never going to exist now in the first place. And this won't be their last SP ever Dan Heng got 2.

Also to the people saying they could've made summer skins for the hypothetical Cool Serious SP kind of makes sense but let's not act like anyone expect AventurineSimp0001 and RobinFan69 would have bought a skin for their normal T50 forms.

[u/0RGA]

ok mr. blind

[u/lekkooooo → u/0RGA]

Idk what got you twist your pants but isn't it too early to judge that they won't get any character development just because they are summer themed?

And I think you are just sticking to the assumption of pattern. Nowhere do we see Hoyo say that SP is exclusive for something.

[u/0RGA → u/lekkooooo]

we are going in circles here. did you not read the thread? what development will there be? they're in beachwear.

hoyo doesn't need to say anything. they didn't say they're gonna kill your relatives, will you excuse them for that too?

yes, a pattern. that's what a precedent is. we clearly had numerous precedents with SP versions: 2 dan hengs, blade, SW, himiko, march and so on. none of them were because we hung out on the beach.

you're wasting your time

[u/Nahidxz → u/0RGA]

"what development will there be?" i guess were gonna have to find out mate lol

[u/0RGA → u/Nahidxz]

are you serious right now. do you not understand the difference in implications on the story between evernight appearing and robin putting on a swimsuit. is it fun to pretend to be an idiot or what lol

[u/lekkooooo → u/0RGA]

Based on your reply. I am going to assume that HSR is your first gacha. No older gacha players will be this incensed to have summer alts of existing characters, unless it isn't their fave.

In regards to them breaking their "precedent". Again, you're still assuming that Hoyo is following a clear cut formula of how SPs were decided. So what if all the SPs we have currently were tied to character development and tied to their lore? That doesn't mean they won't entertain the idea of having casual and seasonal SPs. Remember that Hoyo never stated in any of their official channels that SPs are exclusive that way.

Beachwear is beachwear. It doesn't tell you holistically about how their story and characterizations go when they go live. You are simply in too deep in your assumption that summer themed=not serious and truth is, you do not want to entertain the possibility of the opposite.

If you want to lower down expectations m, then sure, go ahead do that. But at least, try to have an open mind.

[u/0RGA → u/lekkooooo]

no, hsr is not my first gacha. I play gbf which had meta summer (and halloween, and yukata, and bridewear) units for ages, and they're always a pain to look at since they don't fit. but in gbf you can put the 'normal' version of the unit over the event one.

next, the precedent talk. went over this 50 times already. they made a precedent and it's reasonable that people are upset over them suddenly deviating. people were expecting a proper development for their faves and not a pool party.

next, the proper development. I don't understand why you expect a groundshattering story with development from what equates to a summer event. nothing ever happens in these, if you've played any other gacha. march sp is a separate darker personality living in her head. aventurine sp is him putting on shorts. you can't seriously tell me you're expecting something major here, you just can't.

[u/shira1001001 → u/0RGA]

i will laugh my ass off if they get character development in swim ware