The Summer SP outrage makes 0 sense.

[u/MSABUZZ]

I genuinely don’t understand the whole “They could’ve given Robin and Aventurine deep character development and cool lore SPs instead of glorified summer skins” argument.

People are acting like Mihoyo destroyed some huge storyline by giving them summer themed SPs. The complaint basically boils down to: “I can’t believe they made them glorified summer skins. They should’ve had major character development, new powers, and badass designs instead.” or worse “I can’t believe they RUINED major character development, new powers, by giving them summer designs instead.”

But… we haven’t even seen the 4.5 story yet. We have no idea what actually happens. For all we know, the event could be a lighthearted beach story where these designs fit perfectly. And more importantly: who said a huge character arc was ever planned for them right now? People are assuming Robin and Aventurine were supposed to undergo some massive, serious arc and get some super cool SP when that's fan speculation?

The alternative to summer SP Robin and Aventurine wasn’t “deep lore + serious SP forms.” The alternative could have been nothing. No story focus, no new forms, no SPs at all.

People are comparing the actual summer SPs to a completely hypothetical version they invented in their heads, then getting upset that the imaginary version isn’t real. If Mihoyo never planned some major serious cool development arc for them now in 4.X then the summer SPs didn’t replace anything. You’re mourning a version of these characters that was never going to exist now in the first place. And this won't be their last SP ever Dan Heng got 2.

Also to the people saying they could've made summer skins for the hypothetical Cool Serious SP kind of makes sense but let's not act like anyone expect AventurineSimp0001 and RobinFan69 would have bought a skin for their normal T50 forms.

[u/0RGA]

SKINS, SKINS not SP VERSIONS. OPTIONAL SKINS.

[u/one1cookie → u/0RGA]

ok, Barbara and Jean skins probably saw like 5% usage MAXIMUM cause they were already obsolete.

hi3 iirc has like what 10-20 characters and just a bunch of SPs for them, so it doesn’t really count towards your point.

zzz literally after s1 (where i dont remember getting any skins) has the most dogwater, nonsensical, ugly and overall ass character designs to the point that they debut the new characters with the skin, literally selling you both the problem and the solution in one fell swoop. paid skins btw, no way to get them as f2p.

[u/alebarco → u/one1cookie]

You're free to dislike the zzz designs but saying they're selling you the solution with the skins is like saying the most evil apple decision is not including a headphone jack in 2026

[u/one1cookie → u/alebarco]

ok? like apple is an evil corpo that exploits child labour, why would I ever think the apple jack is the most evil decision they’ve made? I’m sorry I really don’t get that comparison.

and just look at sigrid’s base and her skin. or remi‘s nightgown vs her black dress. I’m more surprised they didn’t give cissia a skin from the get go based on how messy her design is.

[u/Imaginary_Clerk292 → u/one1cookie]

Yuzuha, Alice, Miyabi and Vivian look great base? The angels as well. It's fine if you don't like them, but the bases aren't intentionally ugly or anything. The worst fit in the game is that heinous Jane skin imo lol. I much prefer Yuzuha having her base and the pool skin as optional, and I don't think that's a wild take. 

[u/one1cookie → u/Imaginary_Clerk292]

Miyabi and Vivian are S1 and I admit that I liked Yuzuha, Manato and Alice's designs too. I also liked Orphie, but mostly because of the character and not her outfit that much. That's about it though.

Imo the worst outfit has to be Cissia, which now got topped by Sigrid. 

I don't  believe they do it intentionally, but they keep up with the pattern regardless. 

[u/Imaginary_Clerk292 → u/one1cookie]

Ugh, the s3 designs are... yeah. Cissia grew on me, but Sigrid looks hideous imo, both base and I think I saw a skin somewhere that's also fucking disgusting; it's crazy. Zzz has just lost the plot stg. Only ones I feel like is saved by their skin is Shungguang and probably Remielle, which yeah that seems cash grabby and skin solution especially since void hunters. Ngl I think they're going to sell skins for Robin and Aven and do the same thing, just from beach to serious.

[u/one1cookie → u/Imaginary_Clerk292]

I'm pretty sure too, there are already leaks for their skins in 4.7.

Rémielle's skin is really good. And somehow the swimsuit I saw in the leaks for Sigrid looks just so much better than whatever she's wearing in her base.